There are bad days. And there are days when you get knocked off the park like you never have been. Every team and manager get these freak performances and freak results every now and then. That’s what is famously wrapped up in a phrase in the continent ‘that’s football’ and in the British Isles ‘football, bloody hell’. Football keeps throwing shocks and surprises at you. sometimes It’s beyond reason and beyond rational explanation. Friday night was a great example.
You know atletico madrid are a good team. And you know chelsea are sitting on top of the premier league with 9 points from 3 games. The odds were in favour of this new Chelsea set up to come out winners. But a win for Atletico Madrid would by no means be termed as an ‘upset’. The history says that only in 6 instances out 15 occasions have the champions league winning team won the UEFA Super Cup. And that history also includes a 3-0 thrashing of Barcelona (had Ronaldinho, Eto, Deco, Messi etc) by Sevilla in 2006. You can sum it up to conclude that it’s got to do with the desire and hunger of the teams involved. The europa cup winner would naturally be more charged up to beat the champions league winner and the champions league winner could look at their opponent as the winner of an inferior competition after all.
But chelsea wanted to win this game. Make no mistake. Chelsea absolutely wanted to win this. There were no half measures in our preparations or the team selection. RDM named a very strong starting eleven for this game. Hazard, Mata & Ramires behind Torres. Mikel & Lampard protecting the back four of Cahill, Luiz, Ivanovic & Cole. On paper, this is a very strong team. On the pitch, we’ve had other observations.
I’m no fan of two things in the current Chelsea set up – (1) Ramires playing as the wide attacking player (2) Mikel-Lampard combination in the midfield. On the earlier, I had already written a post here in this blog on how the new 4-2-3-1 system alienates Ramires as we collected specialists for his positions this summer. On the latter, I’ve been fairly vocal on twitter to say Lampard and Mikel are not the right midfield combination and this fails us both in defence and in attack. Unfortunately, I saw both these present in the starting line-up.
In the initial few minutes of the game, you knew that Atletico Madrid are playing like they cannot go home alive if they lose this game. And Chelsea on the other hand were strolling around the park either with supreme overconfidence or poor fitness or total lack of desire. We are not new to these typical lethargic starts by Chelsea. We do concede a goal and then wake up to start battering them. But on Friday, only the first part happened. We conceded a goal. And then we continued to play like nothing happened. And then we conceded again. We continued playing very ordinary football. And then we conceded again. Game over by half time if Atletico Madrid could get the basics right in second half.
There was no zip in our attacks. Atletico had marked us and closed us down very well. We took too much time to move the ball. Our players didn’t move simultaneously. They would move only after they got the ball which was way too predictable for the atletico defence. Our attacks weren’t instinctive and joined up like that of Atletico. None of our attacks really troubled atletico and that’s the truth.
Meanwhile every time Atletico got the ball there was a conclusive attack – resulting in a save or shot on goal or a corner or even hitting the woodwork. their attacks were decisive. That was also because chelsea took the initiative and Atletico were looking for counterattacking opportunities. Because of this, Chelsea never enjoyed the space that Atletico had.
Later on, Mikel had confirmed that we are consciously changing our defence approach and methods. He mentioned that chelsea don’t look to defend in a compact manner or in numbers. This means the rest of the team would already take up attacking positions and expect the defence and the midfield to protect our goal all by themselves. This also means the defence and midfield should get used to defending all by themselves. Until then, we could have ‘some’ problems.
The only player in my view that came out with some credit from the Chelsea side was John Obi Mikel. Only he played like he wanted to win this game. He did a great job in holding the ball for defence as well as for attack. Lampard as his partner is just not working. The key defensive midfielder there is Mikel. And whoever plays alongside him should support and complement him. Lampard went for the same tackles that mikel went for. Lampard went to close down while Mikel was also on the case. This works when you had three midfielders. Now there’s only two. the way Lampard operated with Mikel meant a lot of space for atletico to exploit right through the middle. That’s why many a times we saw Atletico quite easily outnumbering us in their counterattacks. In summary, in Lampard and in Ramires, we have two midfielders who would perfectly fit into a 4-3-3 formation and neither of them are could do justice to their new roles in the 4-2-3-1.
Also when you want to take the initiative, you will naturally hold more possession than the opponent and your all your players will be in fairly advanced attacking positions. In such circumstances, to lose the ball cheaply is disastrous and it happened quite a few times and Atletico took full advantage of these errors. there was a consolation goal from Gary Cahill. It meant nothing but ‘hey we too scored a goal’.
As the game went on most Chelsea fans knew that this was going to be a terrible night and they weren’t wrong. When the game ended at 4-1, there was hardly anything for us to complain about. Atletico won it fair and square. They played quick and smart football while we were lazy and lethargic.
While this was a terrible performance, I’d not read too much into this. Quite clearly chelsea didn’t turn up. It wasn’t the case of chelsea playing at their level and still got beat 4-1 by Atletico. This is way below what Chelsea could offer without even going top gear. This is a team that gelling together very well and is leading the premier league table with full points after 3 games. The potential of the team is much higher than what was on display on Friday night. It was a freak performance and I honestly do not think there is a concern from this game. Stuff i mentioned about Ramires and Lampard were things that existed before this game. So honestly this game did not make me any more concerned on anything in particular.
For this young bunch of Chelsea players such a humbling experience does help. We should realise that we can’t take any games lightly and every opponent is gonna give that extra bit knowing that a win would mean a win over the european champions. This performance and result were a great wake up call for us.

Some of our players have even apologised on twitter to the Chelsea fans. That means they have been really hurt by this performance and that they are determined to prevent such things in future. After such games, you’d normally want the next game like tomorrow so you can get it out of your system. But in this case I think we need to take some time back to reflect on the midfield dilemma, Ramires’ role and the defensive solidity. the international break of two weeks comes at the right time. we’re still on top of the league so there’s no pressure there.
Falcao was a big talking point in this game. He was in red hot form this week with his hattrick against Athletic Bilbao and this game against Chelsea must have been one of his best nights in his career. He was super-sharp and super-confident. He deserves all the praise he gets. By the way, I also found people comparing Torres and Falcao after this game which in my opinion is as wrong as comparisons go. Firstly, Falcao is in the best form his career. Torres is making some sort of a ‘career recovery’. If you compare them today, then you should have also compared the Torres and Falcao of 2006-2008. Also, Torres once again hardly got any service. In comparison, Atletico were feeding Falcoa all night that too exactly the way Torres might have wanted. Meanwhile there are rumours that Falcao has signed a contract with Chelsea to join us in January. There could be no truth in it. So don’t start celebrating yet.
So there it is. We missed out on the uefa super cup trophy. Personally, I don’t really rate the UEFA Super Cup or the club world cup so much. For me, they are like the community shield trophy. It’s a trophy but not really most coveted one. For me, it’s premier league, champions league, domestic cups & other cups – in that order. You can call this sour grapes. But this is indeed my pecking order. This doesn’t mean I didn’t care about the game on Friday. Of course I wanted us to win. And of course I was terribly disappointed. But the fact is, UEFA super cup or club world cup don’t excite me so much as the proper compeititions do. But there’s no denying that this would have been a good addition to our ever-growing collection of trophies.
In a way, there’s nothing not to cheer about Chelsea now. We’ve got a very young squad with really new exciting players. We’ve taken full points in our three games. We still haven’t seen much of Marin, Oscar, Moses & Azpilicueta. Our squad will have to settle down and gel together well personally & professionally. RDM has impressed me with what he has done so far with the signings, squad and the style and substance of our performances & results. I’m actually so excited about chelsea this season that this super cup result has not managed to dent that even one bit. We haven’t seen anything yet! Future’s bright! Future’s blue! KTBFFH!
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thoroughly agreed. I’d hope it turns out to be an important lesson especially to our youthful new acquisitions that Europe is serious business no matter how well we do domestically. an abrupt end to our short run of form may be a good thing. heartened to see responsibility.
regarding the midfield. mikel is a lock to start as it seems, deservingly so nonetheless. his partner should be defensively solid and capable of bringing the ball up field to link with the front line.
a little disappointed to see essien leave on loan although we have a surplus of 6 players for those 2 spots. however, I hope the rationale is that he is part of future plans and JM can hone him back to the ‘bison’ we all know he still is. even on his bad day, essien was unspectacular but always dependably solid.
as of right now, I’d say meireles is the better option. defensively dependable and can bring the ball up field like his Liverpool days. good long shot as well. ramires is good defensively and can link with the attack box-to-box but he’s not as strong nor imposing as a midfield pivot should be. hopefully romeu gets his due chances too.
keep the spirits up! and the blue flag flying high! it’s a learning experience more than anything.
Mehn @bluechampion, u always amaze me with ur knowledge of the game. Here again, u’ve dissect it all (last friday night’s game) and u’re sooo spot on as always. Only I do hope RDM sees what we’re all seeing about Ramires and Mikel-Lampard pivot. KTBFFH
By now chels fans have seen a lot…..but the only thing abt the super cuppa cup was that chels was so raggedy ……..and nightmarish running around like they had diapers full of poop on……. Like 10 year old bookworm schoolboys beaten by an adult women’s weekend league side………like 70 year old bag ladies run over by a 70 year old engiineless morris minor rolled down a steep hill !
It is like hoping for a nubile playmate and lotsa action but when the veil is removed ending up with a aged tranny with a botched operation…..
Now the loss won’t kiill us nay…… But a repeat of the experience will make me crap in my pants ………tear out my eyebrows ….. And light candles day and night in front of my Drogs poster. !
A few things that I observed:
1. Our transition from defense to attack is not smooth. The ball is not fed to Hazard/Mata/Ramires quick enough, which gives the opposition enough time to mark all the three. I have seen Mata dropping deep to collect the ball far too often, which he isn’t supposed to do and is like wasting his talent up front. This must be rectified if we need good attacking football.
2. As BlueChampion has already pointed out, Ivanovic at RB is simply not good enough. Atletico players(even Wigan players) got past him on more than a few occasions, and he does not offer anything going forward. His crosses were really poor.
3. Mata hasn’t had the best of starts. He is showcasing his talent only in flashes. However I hope time will sort this out.
4. Oscar was really impressive. He closes down players with great pace and his passing was progressive.
Overall, we still haven’t played consistently well this season. We have played well in patches. We are scoring goals, but not really creating enough clear-cut chances. Again, I hope this will be sorted out with time. KTBFFH
Please spare us Mr Blogger….Obi is not good enough for Chelsea starting 11….Mourinho saw it and so did the other coaches….Lampard is another selfish player chasing personal records….Essien will prove to be our biggest mixtake at Madrid….RDM is just a lucky manager…..our midfield was put to the test for once and it looked like sh*t…….Let’s see how far RDM’s luck carries him
One massive problem Chelsea have at the minute, our only aerial threats without Drogba in the team our Ivanovic and the centre halves – and if Friday is anything go by, commiting all three to every corner/free kick is gonna leave us dangerously vulnerable.
For the third season in a row a slow Frank Lampard start has left everyone on his case. I’d back him to win everyone round again but Ramires on the right wing is such an obvious waste of his talent. The Mikel/Ramires double pivot has to be given a chance. Mikel was awesome imo on Friday. At his best he is the best of Makelele and Essien combined.
How we bounce back from this will be a good indicator of how losing Drogba has affected the spirit and resiliance of the team. On the big occasion I’d still back this group to dig deep and pull through. I dont consider the UEFA Super Cup to be the big occasion.
what i saw in the match was mikel and his attacking movements.. his movement was superb. he carried the ball forward which was wonderful to see. there was one instant where he dribbled and dodged a few players together was the moment of the match for me from the chelsea perspective. mikel has been a revelation this season and it could be his season this..
I can only imagine what is going through RA’s mind right now we missed the charity shield and the super cup – we let Van Persie walk into Man U , Let Santi walk by to Arsenal and Falcao this transfer window and of all people VICTOR MOSES please RDM get real how many work in progress players do we need – can’t we focus on Josh or Gael . honestly RDM i am beginning to doubt your ability now to buy players ( your formations and tactics may be good but your players,GOOD LORD).
Imagine playing against Real Madrid and Ramires got injured would i trust moses to deliver when he can’t even deliver at wigan after so many games- i mean so what if he seems strong, HULK is by far a better option at least we have hope and options when we play big teams or just kept Kevin Debs.
Of all the players in the World MOSES – Walcott , Nani , Santi(His previous club was cash strapped) , Hulk ,Lucas Moura , even try Pedro (barcelona- was having problems with them recently) , Iker Munian – the list goes on as to how many young players are better than Moses
Ideology is very different – RA goes and buys Hazard you go and buy Moses – It doesn’t matter if you only just bought him, if it was messi you bought would you not of put him on the pitch already ??
I don’t even want to Begin with Lampard -as a starting player , WHAT A JOKE maybe as a sub
Does anyone actually belie that we sent Essien to Madrid? I still can’t get over this. How come did this happen? Are we to really on Romeu if something goes wrong with Mikel?
And how come we didn’t reinforce the attack for god’s sake we only have 2 strikers!!!! Torres we can’t really on him and Sturridge is not world class yet. Look at City, they got Tevez, Aguero, Dzeko and Balotelli, United have RVP, Rooney, Hernandez, and Welbeck. This is not right at all…
Nice article !
Super Cup is certainly above FA cup for me … FA is pertains to just English teams but Super Cup is a level below UEFA champions cups and I am sure if we had won the Super Cup the situation would have been totally different …. but its a good reality check for Chelsea and RDM.
Another person who I thought wanted to make a difference was Oscar … showed some amount of urgency ….
i also noticed that Hazard was getting in the right areas but no one was feeding him for some odd reason and it was not because the Atletico closed him well…
LIke you pointed the attacking build up was too slow… no one was moving with the ball forward every time a player got the ball he waited for support to arrive and then eventual ended up in a back pass.
i am not going to shy away saying this cup isn’t important … it is always nice to have all types of silverware in the trophy cabinet !
we got royally fucked and there are no two ways about it ! we are not Manchester United who say its trivial when they lose and glorify it when they win something …
we are the blues … carefree win or lose…
Hi Guys,
The game against Athletico was probably the worst in the Roman Era. Absolutely no desire or passion displayed by the team. Watching the game was a very painful experience.
RDM should be more flexible with his team selections, tactics, formations etc.If he sees that 4-2-3-1 isnt working, he can switch to 4-3-3 or even a 4-4-2
An intelligent manager should be able to adapt during a game. A plan B and maybe even a plan C & D should be in place for every game.
We have bought in guys like Moses, Hazard, Marin etc who can play pretty well on the wings. We didnt have this luxury last season. When we have sufficient personnel at our disposal, we should build plans in a way that we can get out of sticky situations on most occasions.
Even in the game against Athletico, RDM could have bought on Moses for Mata and shifted to a 4-3-3 with Hazard & Moses on either side of Torres. Lampard, Mikel and Ramires could have controlled the midfield much better in that way.
Trophies like the community shield, super cup, club world cup etc should be given due respect because we worked hard the previous season to be able to feature in them.
Just adding to the previous comment…
These additional competitions are exclusive privileges given to CHAMPIONS and its not easy to feature in them, especially the Super Cup and World Club cup.
We would have had 2 additional trophies in our cabinet within a month of the season starting if things had panned out differently.
We are trying to reach the status of clubs like Real, Milan, Bayern, Barca, United etc. This requires us to keep winning trophies on a consistent basis. The one off games providing trophies like the Community Shield, Super Cup etc will boost the trophy count and accelarate the growth process of the club.
I really hope we win the Club World Cup as it ll be a first in Chelsea history.
The only positive that I can see from the Athletico game is that the players by themselves have realised that the performance was below par and have owned up to their infividual and collective mistakes.
This atleast provides hope that the players will come out firing against QPR after this boring intetnational break
Go BLUES go….
Bluechampion very very poor article.
Firstly the supercup is a a big competition, the fact that you have to be a european winner to play in it speaks for itself, who knows when we will win the Champions league again and get this chance, RDM simply lost out on a big trophy for the club’s CV.
Secondly Instead of making Arsenal like excuses, call a spade a spade, we were favorites, we had spent the big bucks, we are european champions and we got soundly thrashed, give the winners the respect, they beat us in every way possible. there was no ‘freak’ involved, i remember the last time you claimed this ‘freak result’, it was after that defeat at home to arsenal last season, and look what happened with avb??
Thirdly dont compare Falcao with torres, even at his best, his scoring record was not even close to the Colombian forward, so stop misleading people into believing what you blindly believe, Torres has scored more than 20 goals only twice in last eight seasons, and 30+ only once in his career, Radamel Falcao has passed 30+ consecutively past three seasons and is in line to do so again. Torres was always a very good player, yes, world class?? NEVER, and thankfully i never bought his hype, unfortunately Roman did.
Fourthly dont get so excited with the current performances, scorelines have been misleading:
1.Vs City, we were poor and easily brushed aside, but atleast saved face.
2.Vs Wigan we were dominated for 80 minutes by a team that scrapes past relegation
3.Vs Reading saved by the linesman
4.Vs Newcastle, the only good performance and surprise, there was no lamps and Newcastle dint have tiote
5.Vs Atletico ripped to shreds like a league 2 team
Everything is not as rosy as you think, and RDM needs to pull his socks up and work it out, as we all know its pep Roman wants and RDM is preparing his own coffin.
@joeblue
I understand your concerns and see where youre coming from. but is there a point in bringing all of that up?
it’s a blatant fact we played badly and got the deserved loss. all chelsea fans are feeling down after a result like this, this is a nice article FOR THE FANS, is there really a need for pushing the blame to anyone? players or manager. even if we do recognise some level of non-objective reporting, is it wrong? are we not allowed some optimism? at least we aren’t coming up with excuses why we lost.
a small point on criticising our players. I won’t try to convince myself torres is at falcao’s level. but I like torres for his hardworking attitude and other intangibles (not saying falcao doesn’t have). I’m perfectly fine with him as our starting forward.
I wouldn’t say we have the best team in the world. and even when we do badly, heartaches are all part of being a true fan instead of jumping upon another bandwagon. I don’t see the need to analyse all our poor performances despite the wins. why not go ahead and criticise our CL run because we quite truthfully werent the best team?
on a side note, if you’re looking for objective reporting, a fan-based blog may not be the best place.
Woah! Here I go!
Super Cup is indeed a big competition and I’d have loved to see us win it. It’s a competition exclusive for champions and hence it is special. But I mentioned is that ‘I’ don’t consider that as big as many others. Would never top ‘my’ list of priorities.
I thought I gave full credit to Atletico for this result. They were ripped us to shreds and there’s no running away from that fact. Don’t know you think that I think otherwise.
Yes this is a freak result the way I see it. If Chelsea were to play Atletico 10 times and if this result/performance is repeated (or somewhat) 6 or 7 times I wouldn’t have said that. I didn’t think it was normal for Chelsea to play that poorly and get bested so badly by Atletico. Hence I’d stand by that. By the way, a freak performance/result doesn’t take anything away from the winners for their effort and the outcome.
Torres-Falcao comparison? Too many factors as in any comparison. Different leagues, different injury profile, time point of comparison etc. Torres never got to play in the best team in his country. And that makes a big difference. Now is not the time to take Torres into any comparison whatsoever. We are all prejudiced by what happened to him in the last 18 months. Now that he’s down it’s easy to knock him. If I produce some of the media coverage of Torres from his Liverpool days we might think this was a different player. Basically what I’m saying is, in my view it’s so incorrect to compare these players. That’s just me.
And if you were to review each and every Chelsea game this way, you gotta do that for the other rivals too. Man City (beating a 10 man team, nearly beaten by a promoted team), Man Utd (beaten by Everton? nearly beaten by that very promoted team) and I don’t want to go into the ignored handballs and shirt pulls that always go their way.
I understand that you want Chelsea to be up and running on top gear already. But I don’t. I’m thinking it’s gonna take a couple of months to hit the top gear and I’m fine with it. I don’t see anything rosy in particular. Yes we’ve spent about £80m but I’ll be fine with a second/third place in the league, champions league semi final and a domestic trophy – THIS SEASON. That’s why you think I paint a rosy picture. It’s always down to your expectation.
We have lost considerable experience in Drogba, Essien, Malouda, Kalou (no matter how good or otherwise they were). We will see less of Lampard too. This will be a young team with building on new experiences. But I don’t sing the Arsenal tune here. I’m just being reasonable. This is a season of transition and next season it should deliver. Young players can’t switch countries and start playing like nothing happened in their lives. I’m just accounting for that.
I for one expected Chelsea to lose badly, as I was the only one on this blog going on about how poorly we played during pre-season friendlies and how poorly we played leading up to this Super Cup match.
Anyone, for Martin O’Neill as our manager.
This is not a fluke, or a surprise result.I repeat this is not a as one would sugar-coat it ” One Freak Night Of Football”.
This is an expected result.
BC says that it is a season of transition.
Really? How many new players we have seen in our starting line-ups against Man City, Wigan, Reading, Newcastle and Atletico Madrid? Surprise surprise, only one: Hazard! This very fact tells that our problem is not in any kind of transition. It’s the other way around: we are emotionally stuck with the deadwood and scared to change them. In fact, all positive results up until now came from a new boy: Hazard. And if we analyze our problems technically, it’s obvious that the problem is in our midfield of past years, which we keep playing. So no, our problem is not a transition but a lack of it.
If we play with the same line-up against the current Atletico side 10 weeks in a row, we won’t win a single game. Why? Because their central midfield is faster and more technical than ours; their strike force is again faster and technically more astute than ours and finally their defence may not be better than ours but they certainly are faster and are covered by a better central midfield than ours. This is not a rocket science!
So we are selling Meireles to Fenerbahce.
The fundamental issue though has been and will continue to be choosing to play to the strengths of Lampard or Torres. But you can’t do both. If you have to play a system to ensure Lampard starts and that means currently playing him out of position, you will have a central midfield overrun by any half decent counter attack. You will have a slow, predictable offense that can’t get the ball beyond the half way line. When I saw the defenders slowly rolling the ball to each other the first few minutes of the game, I knew it was going to be a tough night. And Falcao was kind enough to put things to rest early by scoring within 8 minutes.
Torres is a striker who thrives on pace and space, of course he’s going to be isolated when the central midfield can’t get the ball and distribute it quickly. And when the defense is already packed in, Lampard rushing into Torres’ area doesn’t help the space issue either. The way to break down a packed defense isn’t to have more people in the tight space, it is to play quickly so the defense can’t organize in large numbers and pack it in.
I can’t believe RDM said earlier this summer that he still wants to play a system which encourages Lampard to make his run from CM. Unbelieveable. Is it 2005? So let’s make sure Lampard gets his goal while Hazard, Mata, and Torres struggle and the defense gives up 3 or 4. Me? I’d rather play a way that consistently relies on goals from the front 4 rather than an aging 34 year old CM. Note “consistently”, you want your game to focus on that as a way of life. Goals from CM and defenders are expected of course but those are life secondary and tertiary options. Having Lampard neglecting his positional duties and running into the box should not be a PRIMARY option. But if you watch the way Lampard plays, you can see he does it enough in a game where he thinks he is the first goal scoring option. And if RDM thinks that too, I’m sorry but Chelsea are going to be screwed this season. If Lampard still thinks he’s the first option, then he should moved up to attacking midfielder or second striker and let someone else take care of the midfield.
I can’t believe Chelsea are even contemplating letting Meireles go. He’s no savior but he’s a competent midfielder as demonstrated in the Euros when he took care of the grunt work of the midfield which allowed Ronaldo to ignore his defensive duties and do what he does best–score. Why not allow Meireles to do the same for Hazard, Mata, Sturridge, Torres and etc? Oh, we know why. But nothing Chelsea does in the transfer market will amaze me anymore. So capable of great moves and even more capable at being completely stupid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19466253
Another player leaving which means only Mikel & Romeu is the holding midfielder.
Lamps,JT,Didier,Cole,Cech have been brilliant for us but constant change to management has made a kinda nexus of these players new players are intimidated or they are put into there places … the reason for failure of torres is pretty obvious lamps,dider,Malouda and kalou hardly set him up and break his all confidence untill he dragged down the floor .. I am afraid if the same gonna happen to hazard as there were many instances when hazard was screaming for ball in good positions but his teammates just wouldn’t pass to him.. I guess don Frank is not too happy for hazard to take penalty last time and trying to put him in his place … time to offload Cech,terry,Lamps next years they are legends and achieved everything they could at the club.
Meiereles just signed for Fenwrbache!!!!!!!?!?!!!! Are we FN stupid? We have depleted our midfield now, first Essien than Raul. What the hell are we doing? Who do we have for cover for Lampard and Mikel? Romeu? What kind of shit transfer policy is this. We have no cover for our strikers either…..
I for one feel that Meireles move is actually an astute move by RDM. Infact , its a shrewd move which will help Chelsea in the long run . My reasons being :
- We do have decent cover for the mid field pivot. If need be , we can have Oscar playing there and worst case scenario – Luiz !! Hence , the options for the mid field pivot are Lamps , Mikel , Romeu , Oscar , Luiz , Josh( when he is back ) and Ramires.
- This move can help decongest the competition for attacking mids – Oscar , Marin , Ramires, Hazard , Mata , Sturridge ,Malouda ( remember him ?) , Bertrand etc can get proper game time and can help in the horses for courses situations.
- Before I get slated , Sturridge and Bertrand are not direct competition for the attacking Midfield but are viable options for tactical reasons. When playing against teams with fast wingers ( read Spurs ) Bertrand and Ramires would be needed to provide extra cover for the wing backs.
- Last but not the least , the decongestion of the squad is needed to help players like Piazon get more playing time. If I remember well , Piazon was touted to be the next Kaka. However , Oscar is also touted to be the next Kaka. Imagine if both of them realize their full potential ? The possibility is there , right ?
- Also , Raul is 29 and has little resale value if not released now. So , with suitable alternatives available , I think it is good move to let him go. I would like to still thank Raul for the 2 assists made to Torres to help him start his revival and also the strike against Benfica. Thanks a lot for the memories and all the best !!
When I say this is a season of transition, I wasn’t referring to just the 3 games that we’ve played so far. I also had considered the 35 games that we got to play.
You say the only change is Hazard. Last season, Drogba, Kalou and Malouda, Bosingwa & Meireles featured regularly for Chelsea. This season, none of them will. Last season, Torres wasn’t the main man. This season he is. Last season our playing style was still very Drogba-driven and this season its all the ball players. Last season we defended compactly and the whole team helped in defence. This season we are consciously going to leave it to defence and midfield and the attackers are occupying the attacking positions. Last season, we had RDM with a short term objective and was just a stop gap manager trying to make a quick impression. This season he’s our appointed first team manager with a clear agenda as can be seen in the type of signings we have made. Plus we still haven’t integrated fully players like Oscar, Marin, Moses & Azpilicueta. And there’s this new superstar in Hazard. That’s why this is a season of transition.
Plus, let me remind you all that our premier league results so far are better than 19 other teams in the league. And we haven’t integrated some key players and haven’t fully transformed the playing style yet. Good results for a transition.
@BlueChampion: Good point. I have an impression that RDM is trying to simulate the gamaplan of Real Madrid, but he needs the courage to have a private discussion with Lampard and explain him that he is no longer an AM. We know that he can defend well (he started his career as a DM remember?), and I truly beleive that he can play like Xabi Alonso with accurate passes from the deep, but not going forward too much, also he can try a couple of long range shots during a game. If Lampard simulates Xabi Alonso, then Mikel (he is very good of late) can simulate Sami Khedira, and we all know that these 2 do very well together in covering their defence. Just have a look at the starting 11 of these both sides with their current 4-2-3-1 formations, I find them very similar:
GK: Casillias/Cech
RB: Arbeloa/Ivanovic, CB: Ramos/Luiz CB: Pepe/Terry, LB: Marcelo/Cole
DM: Alonso/Lampard DM: Khedira/Mikel
RW: Di Maria/Moses, CAM: Ozil/Mata, LW: Ronaldo/Hazard
ST: Higuain/Torres
What do you think?
Sherzod,
Very good points!! I like what you had to say in the paragraphs. The role for Frank Lampard as a similar role to Xabi Alonso.
But I would prefer playing Ramires next to Frank Lampard instead of Jon Obi Mikel.
And why are you making man for man comparisions.
Anyway, I like what you had to say in your paragraph. Instead, just exchange Jon Obi Mikel with Ramires.
Bluechampion,
Solid points as well.
Meireless is only sold so that can Lamps play regularly … lamps need to become unselfish now and leave the responsibility of scoring goals to attacking 4 and maintain his position as it’s crucial in 4-2-3-1 for two defensive midfielders to stay and protect the back four which becomes back 3 when a wing back goes up .. else we will always be beaten when facing top sides… ivanovic should also curb the attacking instinct and moses should be played as RW
@Michael: Thanks! Actually I like Ramires a lot, but I am not sure if he is better in the DM position than Mikel, purely because of his physical attributes, and by the way, Mikel has been very impressive of late… I think Lampard is a bit of a problem now because he just doesnt want to stick to his duties as a DM and constantly leaves Mikel all alone in that role.
By the way, it was not a man for man comparison, I just wanted to show that our current players with the current squad formation are very similar to Real Madrid and I have the feeling that RDM is trying to simulate Real Madrid playing system.
P/S
Let us express our gratitute for R.Meireles. Although it was a short stay, he has given a lot to Chelsea FC and I wish him all the best!!!
Honestly i would like to express my thanks to Meireless for his contribution to the squad , he was a decent midfielder and this coming amidst the announcemnet of the Bison already on loan at Real Madrid was simply too much at one point but thinking about it – it is something that was necessary to further pave the way for the young players to get some decent playing time- i’m not sure however this was as to what true cost.
BC was right this is a transition and hope that the youngsters can excel in their technique
just one simple clarification . “RDM has impressed me with what he has done so far with the signings, squad and the style and substance of our performances & results.”
a) what effort of RDM has gone in identifying/selecting/signing up players like Marin, Hazard, Oscar & Moses ?
b) Don’t you think, these players were a target well before RDM was given this role ?
On that point, we would never know until someone produces a proof. RDM has been our manager since March and all these have happened since then. So it’s your word against mine. I’ll go with mine.
Secondly, RDM has managed his signings very well both ins and outs. He’s not been a walking disaster like what AVB has done with Dawson, van der Vaart, Defoe, Lloris, Huddlestone, Dos Santos etc. He’s integrated the new signings very well without causing internal divisions or rifts like at Tottenham. That’s why I appreciate his approach.
Bluechampion
cant believe you claiming RDM’s ‘signings’ as his defence. Those signings are as much his as the signing of sheva for mourinho, torres for carlo etc, AVB is a disaster i agree, but what he is doing at spurs is his idea, what he was doing at chelsea was not. we all know he would have sold off frank and JT if he had the power. No manager at chelsea has any say on transfers of players in/out, targets are chosen by the board, pursued and signed, then handed to the manager, manager performs only the day to day activities and lets not pretend otherwise.
Joeblue – Completely agree.
Nice article mate…great blog
no necessarily true as these are examples of a few and although to an extent it may be true that the club does it’s own share of buying managers are also responsible for some buys as well. Drogba was not a club thing nor was essien nor was khalid and so on. Facts are in this age everything is expensive and clubs should nolonger be able to just buy what the manager says – ie take a look at liverpool after the era of Benitez and so on and so on. -henderson , adam ,carroll , downing etc these are millions of dollars that simply go to waste.
Sadly this model of doing business will prove to be difficult for many managers as they nolonger have free reign over who is and who is not bought. I highly doubt that RDM had a hand in purchasing Hazard or Marin – Maybe Oscar and Moses – i assume had the club not done so we probably would not have had Hazard in the ranks
Bluey
I am not questioning how or why its happening, just stating that it is. Simple.
i agree with that because it is logical as you mentioned in your response , and i guess it is an area which should raise a lot of question marks as you have highlighted – did you know that franco di santo was once considered the future of the chelsea strike force by scolari. Our structure is unique in that the players that eventually do come in should reflect or show some sort of potential. There was once a mention of having one to about two main formations for the team and i suspect this is what is used to purchase such players. i’m curious joeblue – what is your take on victor moses
Bluey
Moses, is a strange one, he is talented yes but a lot like the rest of the English wingers before him walcott, swp, lennon etc, to me he seems a compromise as he was cheap, English and easily available unlike what we really wanted, ie hulk. On one hand we were bidding 30+ for hulk on the other we were squabbling with whelan for 7-8, so I guess everyone at the club compromised and we signed him instead of the porto man.
Just one little clarification for confused ones.
At Chelsea, managers are not involved in transfer activities. It’s sporting director Michael Emenalo’s and the board’s job. Particularly, in the case of Di Matteo, he wasn’t involved in transfers at all because he was appointed as a full-time manager after Marin and Hazard’s transfer.
No I didn’t claim so. I only say we don’t know. And you don’t know too. You ‘think’ or ‘assume’ the same way I do. There’s no proof either way. So let’s not talk as if we are talking hard facts here.
I didn’t praise RDM for buying Hazard etc. I praised his role in the new players’ process, of which, signing is only step one and then you can screw it up very easily ala AVB.
And I have no special admiration for managers who want to do it ‘their’ way. The club is the bigger institution and the managers are just the employees. They work under the directives of the club. And club always thinks bigger than the manager. When a player is selfish or is not a team player, he gets picked up for it. What about the managers? Rodgers and AVB will soon be examples.
BC
Firstly hard facts http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/7716554/Di-Matteo-Marin-not-my-call, Di Matteo says that the club decides who to buy.
Secondly what progress is this? oscar hasant even had a look in, marin is yet to get fit, azpi hasant featured, moses just signed, piazon is nowhere to be seen, lukaku was sent on loan, mceachran sent to a championship team, the only one who has had a look in is hazard, who was twice player of the year in france so he is hardly some raw prospect.
Thirdly i did not express any admiration for AVB or managers doing it their ‘own’ way, i simply pointed out that AVB had no control over players going in or out. Managers are employees yes, but you cant hand them bullocks and ask them to run a horse race. Let me point out that i wld rather have RDM than AVB or Rodgers, and i wish him the best in hope that he achieves everything at the club, but i cannot be blind to his obvious faults.
What RDM says is true for almost all clubs. There’s no news there. When Marin discussions started RDM was a stop-gap manager and honestly no one expected him to take the job permanently.
Managers do have an input into the process – right from scouting, signing, developing, nurturing and developing. I’m giving credit to RDM for how he has used his resources so far.
The rest of the stuff you’ve take about I don’t even know what to say. We have assembled a fantastic squad and we are three games into the league and won all so far. But then I don’t remember seeing you happy about the Chelsea squad EVER. Sometimes I think supporting Chelsea must be such a painful experience for you!
Bluechampion
Being giddy like a child is not my cup of tea, if everything was always as good as you always claim then it must be barca you talk about.
Pardon me but if after spending about a billion we have to hide around against top teams its pretty embarrassing, why do you think Roman Abramovich is so trigger happy anyway? Thankfully unlike you he dosent get carried away by a couple of wins, or we would still be managed by scolari.
joeblue
regarding the transfer policies, it’s flawed to assume our managers have no say, but you could be right for all we know. here’s what I ASSUME, roman can buy whoever he takes fancy, there’s no question. but the managers can also offer inputs to the board on suggestions of suitable players, as would the scouts. it probably gets decided the board and roman at best. it’s quite true for most, if not all clubs, except maybe the owners power as would ours. remember Mancini complaining the lack of signings as did Brendan Rodgers on Carroll’s replacement? so man city and Liverpool managers have absolutely no rights then?
even if RDM as our permanent manager have absolutely no rights to the decisions of signings, at least he’s managing them well. a summer of quite a few young talents means you cannot integrate them into the team immediately. except as you mentioned a proven talent like hazard.
on a side note, yes have spent a lot, and should be recognised and agreed upon more prominently as one of the best in the world. but if it in any ways dampen your support as a fan, it’s your choice really. I for one am ready to face heartache and share joy with the club’s ups and downs as an insignificant fan.
Being knee-jerk is not my cup of tea too. That’s why I don’t jump around a few wins or a big defeat. I’m as grounded I can be. But I enjoy Chelsea – in whatever they do. I’m no trigger happy maniac in a high school compound. I love it when we win. I suffer when we lose. But I don’t go mad shooting around. May be its a matter of life and death for you. Not for me. Football is a part of life. I’m happy for it to unfold itself.
Couldn’t agree more. Very well said.
BC
Knee-jerk? i think claiming everything is going fine after a handful of shoddy wins is far more knee jerk than saying that there are a lot of flaws in this team and the tactics. Regarding the matter of life and death, well thats just how we each support the team, i want to see us winning, in style, playing great football, dominating teams and be envied by all. Chelsea are not my little dinner/beer time sideshow entertainment.
LOL! Who’s claiming everything is going fine? I’m a Chelsea fan and not a Chelsea critic. I take pleasure when Chelsea win knowing all our limitations and problems. I’m cautious too but not to the extent that it ruins my happiness and makes me go wild everyday about what ‘it could have been’. Good to know Chelsea is not a sideshow for you. Thats how it is for all Chelsea fans no matter whether they are happy or unhappy with Chelsea’s football, squad or anything that concerns Chelsea.
I always find this point so strange, are blogs to discuss happiness? whats the conversation supossed to be like anyway? ‘its great fella’ , ‘yeah it is’. end of discussion?? I thought the entire pourpose of blogs was to discuss, not have an internet carnival. I mean people dont read/write blogs to talk of rainbows and unicorns. If my reluctance to indulge in such meaningless frolics is hampering the pourpose of your blog, then i assure you bluechampion i wont spoil the fun for others on here.
No. It’s not the point. Why do you think that way? I had view and you disagreed and you had a view and i disagreed. I recognise that we don’t need to be on the same page. We have always disagreed in this blog. In the 7th year of running this blog so trust me when I say we’ve seen all extremes on this blog. It’s all about how we disagree respectfully and agree that there are different points of view.
BC
Just wondering because the blog has evolved, its not as fiesty it used to be. Its been 7 years since we have been sparring?? Lol anyways We always have disagreed, dunno about you but mate I have always enjoyed our debates. Anyhow if you are ok with it I will still be around!
These debates are good, but honestly, ranting and posting only negative things is just as pointless as “discussing happiness”/only praising the club, in that it does nothing to prompt discussion, only agreement (pointless) or argument (which when dealing with extreme opinions is also pointless). For me the main purpose of the blog is to connect people who maybe dont have any Chelsea supporting friends, so they can discuss and give opinions on current affairs. Heavily dissecting/analysing underlying issues is at best a secondary purpose.
Trust me joeblue – we would never agree almost on anything but I totally respect you and your opinions and really enjoy our debates. You do make this place lively. Without different views this place would be so boringly monotonous. So please keep it up! Cheers!
Someone tell me Mikel is better than a fit Essien…..Ridiculous!!! Di Matteo is digging his own grave…..Remeu is better than Mikel……why are we usin him…he offers no goals, literally little in attack….why?