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Hello Chels! Not a conventional style match-reaction post this time. I saw some key topics emerge out of yesterday’s community shield game and these are pretty much the talking points after the 2-3 defeat to Man City. So a quick post with those key topics of discussion. Here we go!

The Spirit of Chelsea: Never doubt the spirit of Chelsea. Not many teams would come out with such credit after losing a man at the 40th minute. This is a fantastic Man City team full of established superstars that we came out with a 2-3 result despite playing with 10 men for 50 mins. Many other teams would have folded to defeats of 5-goal and 6-goal margins in such circumstances. Not Chelsea. The spirit of Chelsea is still well and truly alive.

Match sharpness: Clearly, we lacked match sharpness all over the pitch. Due to the nature of the roles, it’s easier visible on the defensive than on the attacking side. Our attackers also we a bit lacklustre – lost possession and missed passes and wasted opportunities. But in defence, your being lacklustre makes a headline difference and that’s what happened.

Ivanovic’s red card: It’s no way a red card. Ivanovic got the ball and Kolarov got Ivanovic. There was no reason for Ivanovic to make a malicious tackle when he had full control of the situation. He had the ball to be taken. He made a lazy attempt to secure the ball but never a red card. That said, the ref was generally very poor and this decision just was a good sample of how bad his afternoon was. Thankfully, there won’t be a ban as FA considers this game as a pre-season friendly and hence this will not have an impact on the premier league games.  No one picked up this change in rule including the media who were reporting that Ivanovic will miss the first three games of the premier league season until FA clarified.

Eden Hazard: I thought Hazard was very impressive. He was a bit rusty but I could see how a fit and ready Hazard would operate in a fit and ready Chelsea team. He would be awesome. He also reminded me of Ronaldo in his early Man Utd seasons. Lots of pace, lots of flair, thundering shot, resilience, burning hunger & the eye for the occasional showboating. Make no mistake. He will be a star.

Fernando Torres: You know I’m a big fan and supporter of Torres and I’ve been backing Torres to unleash himself this season. In my view, Torres has been in great form since March. He’s done very well everytime he got the opportunity and even when he didn’t get enough opportunity (like in the Euro). He’s got the second best odds to be the premier league golden boot winner ahead of Rooney and RvP and second only to Aguero. Torres was one player who was very sharp yesterday and he was skinning defenders for fun. The goal that he scored was a very well taken goal from a very swift attack. Torres was instinctive. That’s when he’s at his best. In his stint at Chelsea, there were many occasions where he’d take too much time to decide and execute. He wasn’t instinctive. Yesterday he was. I think his time is now. He’s got great support and service behind him and he’s made a fantastic start to the season with that goal. The only way is up!

The midfield dilemma: We have a brilliant defence. Yes there weren’t at their sharpest yesterday but still I rate them as the best defensive unit in Europe. We have a great supply line for the attacks – Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Marin, Ramires. And we have a great sriker who seems to have found his form. The only weak link in Chelsea is the midfield zone/players between the defence and the attacking midfield – Lampard and Mikel. They were harried and hussled off the ball far too easily and far too frequently. That’s where we lost the battle. When you have 4 attacking players and 2 attacking full backs, your 2 midfielders should have to be spot on. There’s no margin of there at all. Individually, Mikel and Lampard are fantastic players and for me, have proved it beyond doubt. But to be left as a pair of midfielders against the onslaught of pressure from opposition players, they needed lot more awareness, ball skills and team play. Off the ball, if they were to get too close or too far to/from each other, they would leave huge holes in midfield to exploit. I haven’t seem them play with enough understanding and partneship. And that would it hurt in our current set up. Will have to wait and see.

RDM’s tactics: We started with 4-2-3-1. We know that’s going our staple formation for this season. As soon as we lost Ivanovic to a bad refereeing decision, I thought we would change our system a little bit. Surprisingly, RDM didn’t change it. He went on as if we had eleven men. With Ramires having to drop back, it put a lot of stress on our midfield and Man City took advantage of it very well. But the point is, Chelsea continued to attack – all the game, even with 10 men. RDM has got some stick from the media for how he played against Barca and even Bayern. Here’s a game against the champions of England who played better than Barca and Bayern but still we were attacking with 10 men. I didn’t see anyone making even a mention about how we approached this game even during adversity. But, good show Robbie!

Bench strength: For once, we had some depth on the bench. There were occasions in the previous seasons where I hoped we don’t make any subs because the quality on the bench wasn’t great. Yesterday, we had Sturridge, Piazon, Essien, Bertrand etc. That was a very good bench. With two players coming in (and two more probably), you can imagine how strong the bench would be! Oscar and Marin would also join the squad. We could really have a bench that has Lampard, Mikel, Marin, Essien, Piazon and Sturridge. How about that!

Perspective: We weren’t sharp or ready. We played with 10 men for 50 minutes against one of the best teams in Europe. We will see some existing players take new roles and new positions and will need to get adjusted to that. We were missing a couple of key players. We will sign one or two more players. We will still need to gel together as a team, understand each other and develop camaraderie and teamwork. I see positives far outweigh the not-so-positives. Chin up and cheer up!

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What I am? Uber football addict, optimistic Chelsea fan, casual gamer and long time blogger with views and opinions rather than stats and data. What I'm not? Expert, analyst, pundit or self-proclaimed guru of anything. I choose when to be biased and when not to be. Views and opinions are all mine and not what you always might want to see.

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  1. “Ivanovic’s red card: It’s no way a red card. Ivanovic got the ball and Kolarov got Ivanovic. ”
    “Eden Hazard: I thought Hazard was very impressive. ”
    “The midfield dilemma: We have a brilliant defence.”

    after these i stopped reading ..

  2. It was definitely a red card I stop reading once I seen that and yes iam a chelsea supporter just no bias unlike someone

  3. Yes that was a red card, Ivanovic was reckless in the tackle .

  4. I’m a huge Chelsea fan and also a ref. Ivanovic’s tackle was the definition of a two-footed red card tackle. There’s no way around it.

  5. objective article as always
    i don’t usually have the time to be commenting on articles although i read almost every news on Chelsea on the web
    you are the second best in my opinion with the official website as the best.
    keep it up
    i always anticipate your articles.. …

  6. One of my biggest pet peeves (after the one where people say ivanovic is a good RB) is when people talk about getting the ball when a tackle is questionable. It never makes any difference whether or not you get the ball. A studs up or two-footed challenge is a red. Even if you get the ball. Still a sure fire red card.

  7. I think that ‘any two footed tackle is a straight red’ is one of the biggest myths in football. Because nowhere does the rule book say that. The rule book only says that the player will be red carded for ‘serious foul play’ or ‘violent conduct’. I’d not classify Ivanovic tackle as either. The red has huge discretion to conclude if a player committed serious foul play or violent conduct. Watch the replay again. It was an early tackle. Actually Kolarov got Ivanovic instead of the other way round.

  8. If this was a red card foul, Ivanovic should have been sent off even if Kolarov jumped and avoided the contact. We don’t see that in football. And if Kolarov jumped and avoided contact, would the ref still red carded Ivanovic calling this a ‘serious foul play’ or ‘violent conduct’?

  9. On Mikel and Lampard. You forgot to mention that City played a 3-4-2-1. They were actually swamped and the red card worsened matters.
    All said it was a good opening.City for all their stars could not boss the match and that a plus for us. And of course, we kept attacking.
    Something tells me this blues side will suprise many this year.
    Chin up.

  10. Ivanovic is 1 of d fantastic player in chel bt he was a litle bit reskless against city wish actualy warranted dat red.bt dat is hw football is at tyms u ve gud n bad games ,tank god he is free 2 start d sesson.

  11. I think we are missing the point here when it comes to iva’s red card… i think the reason why he got the red card was that his studs were up and made contact with kolarov… now to ask whether it would have been a red card if kolarov had avoided the tackle..is a completely different argument all together.. for which i really dont have an answer.. but as far as I have seen.. iva’s studs definitely made contact..

  12. RDM made a mistake by putting Ramires for Rb after the red card meanwhile we have G Cahill at the bench,so the coach fuck up for dat Sunday thank u.

  13. we have two worst defensive midfielders in mikel amd lampard,honestly chelsea wont go anywhere with them playing. Quick fix solution is to buy tiotte and play him alongside luiz as defensive midfldrs.

  14. If we keep playing Mikel and lampard, dont expect anything great this season.

  15. I think Essien should have played after the red card. He has been great during the pre season and let’s not forget he guarantees at least four goals a season when he is in form.

  16. I for one think we should play Oscar in DM in a Modric sorta role..

  17. What have we learnt from the Chelsea v Manchester City football match.

    This is what I have learnt from the Community Shield football match:

    1) RDM should have been given a 5 month contract till January. With the possibility of a 5 month extension.

    2) RDM has no tactics.

    RDM CANNOT:

    2.1) Work out a team.

    (2.2) Breakdown a defence.

    3) Matt Clark got what he wanted.

    David Luiz played ahead of Gary Cahill. David Luiz (defence) only let in 3 goals. Matt, only 3 goals. I guess Matt Clarke was right we should play a currently unreliable football player (David Luiz) ahead Gary Cahill (who is consistent). I am being sarcastic. Seriously play Gary Cahill and bring in some confidence and stability in defence.

    4) RDM should play my (Michael) formation.

    As I am the AUTHORITY on all things on earth. However, this is a football blog. So lets talk football.

    This is my formation 4-1-3-2.

    Instead of playing 4-2-3-1.

    How are we supposed to win football matches if we are going to be ultra-defencive from the kick-off.

    But, hey lets spiral down out of contention and not win the FA Premier league and Uefa Champions league.

  18. Sound logic there Michael. Slandering David Luiz for “only letting in 3 goals” as part of a ten man team against Manchester City when he wasnt directly at fault for any of the goals, and when Gary Cahill also “let in 3″ against Brighton & Hove Albion in an 11 man team last week.

    By the way, 4-1-3-2 is Sir Alf Ramsey’s formation, not yours.

  19. Matt Clark,

    Before we jump to any conclusion. I did not watch the Brighton & Hove Albion football match. So I don’t know how the match was played out, for example, team selection throught the match, match tempo and motivation by the highly-paid professionals against ameteurs. You should know your Chelsea players by now.

    But well done, for defending yourself. So I will say that you won the debate. Unless someone else would like to add to the centre-back debacle. Who should start? David Luiz or Gary Cahill next to John Terry. Again, you won the debate, for now that is.

    Food for thought.

    This is the team that I would love Roberto Di Matteo to put out. Instead of being ultra-defencive from the kick-off. Being ultra-defencive is a handicap for the team from the kick-off. You saw what happened against Munich in Germany.

    Surely RDM’s tactics cannot continue. RDM has learnt nothing because we won the Uefa Champions league final.

    Matt,

    I’m going to PUNT this team to you.

    What do you think about this team: 4-1-3-2

    ——————-Cech————————-
    Luiz——Terry———Cahill——Cole—
    —————–Ramires———————–
    Oscar———Lampard———Hazzard—
    ———Sturridge———Torres————–

    4 Quick points

    1) Branoslav Ivanovic is fat and slow. He is an athelete and should atleast train and eat like one. Whenever he is beaten by pace he commits a foul to stop the run of play.

    2) By playing a more balanced formation it allows the players to play their natural game and this makes it possible for us to WIN football matches EASILY WITHOUT EFFORT.

    3) There is less stress on Fernando Torres to play as a lone forward. Which forward in their right mind would want to play upfront with all of the pressure of scoring the goals on his shoulders. Would Lionel Messi or Wayne Rooney. I don’t think so.

    4) Daniel Sturrige would have been a world-class forward by now, if he was at Barcelona. This is a honest statement.

    Finally, thank you Bluechampion and Matt Clark for putting in all the effort in the best football blog on the internet. We appreciate your articles which is read in thousands of homes around the world. Thank you.

  20. ——————-Cech————————-
    ——Ivanovic——Terry———Cahill——
    ———————Luiz—————————-
    Ramires—Oscar—Lampard—Hazzard-
    ———Sturridge———Torres————–
    WHY NOT GIVE THIS A TRY.?

  21. Michael,
    I don’t like your team, it isn’t balanced, and it makes almost no sense at all.
    Firstly) Fernando Torres never has and most likely never will thrive in a striking partnership. Not at Atletico, not at Liverpool with Robbie Keane or anyone else. Ancelotti quickly realised it was never gonna work with him and Drogba. Even with Spain, David Villa was moved out wide so Torres could play centre forward on his own. The past few years couldn’t have made it clearer that what Torres needs is support from the midfield, not from a strike partner – certainly not from one like Daniel Sturridge. Lionel Messi and Wayne Rooney are not #9 Strikers – Fernando is. Scoring goals is almost his entire professional life, that pressure exists whether he’s on his own (which he prefers) or whether he has a partner (which has clearly never helped him at all).
    Secondly) why on earth having seen Chelsea spend 80 million pounds on Mata, Hazard and Oscar (three of the greatest #10s in the world) do you want to see 34 year old Frank Lampard play that position? He has never even played that position well. Mourinho used to play Ballack at the tip of his Diamond formation with Frank on the left. Ancelotti learned quickly as well he wasn’t gonna get the best out of Frank in such an advanced position (and this was years ago when Frank was at his best). His skill/trademark is his late run from deep, never as a playmaker, EVER.
    Thirdly) Branislav Ivanovic is NOT fat and slow. He is a super-fit athlete as is every Chelsea player and he moves as quickly as a man with his build is ever going to move. John Terry called him last year “a symbol of the dedication” that Chelsea play with and he was exactly right. And Ivanovic averaged less than one foul a game in the league last season, (0.8) I think I read only three Chelsea players averaged less. You have prejudices against the player; it’s a shame if you can’t appreciate him. He is a great full-back.

    Finally) you’re welcome for the blog, it’s our pleasure.

  22. Matt Clark,

    1) Fernando Torres track record at Chelsea proves that playing him as a lone forward is not a very good idea. Remind me, please? Months without scoring goals. Ok got it. This is not a lack of form problem, its just that Fernando needs another foward to eleviate the pressure that is on him. Listen. Play Torres and Sturridge together till Fernando starts scoring again. Daniel Sturridge is a decent player and deserves to be played.

    2) Mata will not thrive under the pressure of being the main playmaker yet. Hazzard and Oscar do not have that experience playing at this level as the main playmaker yet. This will be Lampard’s last season as the playmaker. The changing of the guard so to say. A memory that comes to mind while Frank Lampard was played at the tip of the diamond is when Chelsea won Manchester United in the FA Cup 2007 final that one-two link with Drogba on my birthday. And if memory serves me right didn’t Claude Makelele DM, Thiago CM or Michael Essien CM be the other midfield players in the centre of the park.

    Chelsea 2004-2005 starting XI (season)
    Manager: Jose Mourinho
    Source: Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004%E2%80%9305_Chelsea_F.C._season

    —————————Cech——————
    —-Ferreira—-Carvaliho—-Terry—-Gallas—-
    ————————Makelele———————
    ————-Tiago————-Lampard———
    —-Cole————————————Duff—-
    ———————-Gudjohnson——————-

    This was Jose Mourinho’s first team in 2004-2005 according to wikipedia. As you can see from the diagram above Frank Lampard played as the playmaker.

    Chelsea 2005-2006 starting XI (season)
    Manager: Jose Mourinho
    Source: Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Chelsea_F.C._season

    ———————Cech——————
    —-Gallas—-Carvaliho—-Terry—-Del Horno—-
    ————————-Makelele————————
    —————Essien————Lampard————–
    —-Cole————————————–Robben—
    ————————Drogba—————————–

    In the FA Premier league 2005-2006

    Petr Cech 34 starts
    William Gallas 33 starts
    Ricardo Carvaliho 22 starts
    John Terry 36 starts
    Asier Del Horno 22 starts
    Claude Makelele 29 starts
    Michael Essien 27 starts
    Frank Lampard 35 starts
    Joe Cole 26 starts
    Arjen Robben 21 starts
    Didier Drogba 20 starts

    Matt Clark,

    IMPORTANT

    1) Michael Ballack did not feature at the tip of the diamond as you have mentioned.

    2) Frank Lampard played as the playmaker his entire life unlike the opposite to what you have said.

    3) Frank Lampard has played as the playmaker for Chelsea since Jose Mourinho was there, so why don’t we play him as the playmaker. Does this not make sense. This is logic.

    I will leave it at here because this is the point I want to prove. Chelsea formation must also change. Just because Roberto Di Matteo does it, this does not make it right.

  23. Matt Clark,

    1) Fernando Torres track record at Chelsea proves that playing him as a lone forward is not a very good idea. Remind me, please? Months without scoring goals. Ok got it. This is not a lack of form problem, its just that Fernando needs another foward to eleviate the pressure that is on him. Listen. Play Torres and Sturridge together till Fernando starts scoring again. Daniel Sturridge is a decent player and deserves to be played.

    2) Mata will not thrive under the pressure of being the main playmaker yet. Hazzard and Oscar do not have that experience playing at this level as the main playmaker yet. This will be Lampard’s last season as the playmaker. The changing of the guard so to say. A memory that comes to mind while Frank Lampard was played at the tip of the diamond is when Chelsea won Manchester United in the FA Cup 2007 final that one-two link with Drogba on my birthday. And if memory serves me right didn’t Claude Makelele DM, Thiago CM or Michael Essien CM be the other midfield players in the centre of the park.

    Chelsea 2004-2005 starting XI (season)
    Manager: Jose Mourinho
    Source: Wikipedia

    —————————Cech——————
    —-Ferreira—-Carvaliho—-Terry—-Gallas—-
    ————————Makelele———————
    ————-Tiago————-Lampard———
    —-Cole————————————Duff—-
    ———————-Gudjohnson——————-

    This was Jose Mourinho’s first team in 2004-2005 according to wikipedia. As you can see from the diagram above Frank Lampard played as the playmaker.

    Chelsea 2005-2006 starting XI (season)
    Manager: Jose Mourinho
    Source: Wikipedia

    ———————Cech——————
    —-Gallas—-Carvaliho—-Terry—-Del Horno—-
    ————————-Makelele————————
    —————Essien————Lampard————–
    —-Cole————————————–Robben—
    ————————Drogba—————————–

    In the FA Premier league 2005-2006

    Petr Cech 34 starts
    William Gallas 33 starts
    Ricardo Carvaliho 22 starts
    John Terry 36 starts
    Asier Del Horno 22 starts
    Claude Makelele 29 starts
    Michael Essien 27 starts
    Frank Lampard 35 starts
    Joe Cole 26 starts
    Arjen Robben 21 starts
    Didier Drogba 20 starts

    Matt Clark,

    IMPORTANT

    1) Michael Ballack did not feature at the tip of the diamond as you have mentioned.

    2) Frank Lampard played as the playmaker his entire life unlike the opposite to what you have said.

    3) Frank Lampard has played as the playmaker for Chelsea since Jose Mourinho was there, so why don’t we play him as the playmaker. Does this not make sense. This is logic.

    I will leave it at here because this is the point I want to prove.

  24. Matt Clark,

    Michael Ballack did not play at the tip of the diamond. There was no diamond.

  25. There was a diamond. I remember Ballack at the tip of it. Lampard as the left midfielder. 2006-07.

  26. Michael,

    Take out Lampard from ‘your’ formation, Chelsea will do fine.

  27. Bluchampion,

    Oh 2006-2007. There were 3 Jose Mourinho complete seasons. There are various reasons why Jose Mourinho had to change his formation and playing positions. But mainly To accomodate Andriy Shevchenko. If people are starting to say that Michael Ballack is a better playmaker than Frank Lampard, then wow. They are different attacking midfield players. One has a reputation, while the other is consistent.

    How many goals has Frank Lampard scored for Chelsea? Surely, he can play as a playmaker with all his experience.

    I would play him there just till Hazard and Oscar can get some FA Premier league, Domestic Cups and Uefa Champions league experience. Maybe play Frank Lampard there till around October 2012.

  28. CosaNostra,

    Matt Clark has got me thinking. This is my Chelsea fc PLAN 2 formation.

    Michael PLAN 2 formation: 4-1-4-1

    ———————–Cech——————————
    —-Luiz——–Terry—-Cahill—-Cole————-
    ———————-Ramires——————
    —-Mata—-Oscar——-Lampard—-Hazard—-
    ———————-Torres—————————-

    I would consder this formation. I should copyright these formations.

  29. Michael,

    In both of those formations, Lampard is playing on the left in a 4-3-3, which is where he has played for 90% of his career? How are you seeing him as a playmaker in those teams when his position is no more advanced than Tiago’s or Essien’s. The only time in his career that he played as a #10 was when Ancelotti started, he played a diamond with Mikel holding, Essien on the right, Malouda on the left and Lamps as playmaker – but Lamps played terribly, it didnt work and Carlo moved back to a 4-3-3 within a couple of months.

    This is the wikipedia link to Chelsea’s 06/07 season, it proves BC and me right about how Mourinho used Ballack in a diamond. Just scroll down to this apperances bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_Chelsea_F.C._season#First_team_squad

    I think maybe there is a difference of opinion between us about what a playmaker is. Neither Lampard or Ballack were one really. Its a player who picks the ball up in advanced positions, looks to play the final ball to the forward or drops back to help with the build up play. Lamps speciality is scoring goals, coming from a deep position which he couldn’t do positioned so advanced as he was in your formation.

    Re: Juan Mata – he is our £23m signing player of the year. Last year as our main playmaker he scored 12 goals and got 22 assists, obviously the pressure wasnt too much. Even if he was struggling with it, which he isnt, benching him for a 34 year old who doesnt even play his position isnt going to help much at all.

    Re: Torres – Just why he struggled maybe will always be a mystery, The facts are, as a lone striker he has sometimes struggled and sometimes thrived. In a partnership, he has always struggled and never thrived.

  30. Matt Clark,

    Respect.

    My argument was that Frank Lampard in 2004-05 and 2005-06 played as the playmaker in the team. He could assist and score. Before Michael Ballack played in the Chelsea team when there was no diamond formation, Lampard was doing the business.

    Now, from what I’ve seen of Mata, he is a slight of built, small man. Not much strength to control the midfield. I would play him wide.

    Chelsea has Oscar, who is the similar and could be a better version of Jack Wilshere as a playmaker. And Hazzard, similar to Adel Taarabt.

    I hear you, let me give you my opinion of football players who are playmakers, Xavi (Barcelona) and Alonso (Madrid).

    Mata is going to kick the ball and then hop or skip to the left or right. He needs strength or the trickery of David Silva.

    You can’t just throw away Lampard’s experience one side.

  31. All I’m saying is Chelsea should play Frank Lampard there for 3 months in August, September and then October 2012.

    I can’t see Mata playing there in the Uefa Champions league final 2012 in Germany.

    Roberto Di Matteo should put in a bid for Adel Taarabt instead of Victor Moses.

  32. I’m just going to stop. I can see on Chelsea 2011-12 wikipedia that Mata is already playing behind the forward. I am going watch more Chelsea highlights as at my age football matches put me to sleep. I would also like to contribute on BC Shout.

  33. @michael …u comparing oscar to wilshere and hazard to taaracbt says it all.. thank you.. and your comments sometimes annoy me to the core..

  34. harsh,

    Even though I don’t want to comment, I will say this. I don’t like comparing any football players to each other as I feel that every player is unique in the way he plays. This is a given. And if my comments annoy you, then there is a serious problem with you. Thank you.

  35. Shut up Micheal !

  36. T,

    What is going through your head, before you even put out a comment like that. What goes through your head.

    Guys, I was just watching Chelsea tv when Chelsea was on the bus. It is so funny watching the players sing, I don’t even know how to pronounce it champions (in spanish). All of the false singing and chants by the Chelsea players (Mata celebrated like a gentleman, that was brilliant).

    ——————–Cech————————
    —-Luiz—-Terry—–Cahill—–Cole——-
    ——————–Ramires——————–
    —-Mata———-Oscar———Hazard—-
    ————–Sturridge—Torres————-

  37. Hey michael.. its been long since i replied on any one of your comments.. but i js gotta say this..

    We all know tht FT9 is gonna be a main striker.. and he has played as the sole striker in almost every team he has played. AM, L’pool and even for spain, and that’s one reason why he was never played along with Drogba.. ( i know this is js a reiteration of others have pointed out).. and i reckon FT9 would and should be played as the sole target man..

    He was very sharp in the community shield game.. and he has a point to prove.. not jus to his critics but more importantly to himself. there is another important point… hazard, mata, oscar and even Marin have all been known to have a good score pretty often and 3 of them along with torres wud be menacing for any line of defenders in the EPL…

  38. Ronin, buddy, if you are out there, wanted to tell you that the forum works again now. See you sometimes. KTBFFH

  39. Kaz,

    What I don’t understand is why doesn’t Fernando have someone like Daniel Sturridge or Romelu Lakaku to help him out score the goals. Fernando Torres is not a teenager or in his early twenties anymore. Anyway, if that is what RDM wants and if that is what Fernando really wants, then all we can do is wait and see what the outcome will be. Cheers, mate.

  40. Guys, Di Matteo has said we aren’t gonna change drastically. Which is the longer term problem. I get the sense our team now is struggling to find its identity. RDM could have gone all defensive on Sunday after the red card. Yet seemed conflicted. Pressure from the media is part of being the Chelsea manager. You have to be clear in your convictions. AVB reacted to the media and lost his way. I am still struggling to see where we are really headed under di Matteo but I agree its too early to tell. Apart from Hazard the team for the CS was our old team.

  41. Anyhow what’s with the Lukaku comments – it was so annoying . It’s a bad sign at that age to comment so much.

  42. I am so impressed with the bulk of the comments here.
    Shows just how much love #CFC has from its fans.
    Come sunday,# KTBFFH!



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