Man Utd 3-1 Chelsea | As unlucky as it gets!
Old Trafford. Man Utd in their best form. Chelsea still in a scratchy league start. Young and hot Reds versus the old and slow Blues. A referee with an anti-Chelsea agenda. Inevitable offside goals for Man Utd. Typical OT-style lucky ricochets. Disappointing 3-1 defeat. Despite all this, against all the odds, against all the expectations – this Chelsea team dominated Man Utd and had them run ragged to the point it was like we were playing at the Bridge.
This is what a Man Utd fan had said in their blog. You know manure fans are not the type that gives credit to opposition. But check this one out:
Not going to complain. But fuck me, we were lucky. The combination of getting the close calls from the linesman, Torres missing an open net, Ramirez fluffing the easiest chance ever, and Torres failing to score when gifted chance after chance, was enough for us to win. Jones was mighty. Evans too. But damn. Overall we were very, very lucky.
And I’m not going to complain about that. Chelsea were as good as I’ve seen them in recent years, they brought the fire and the fury, not to mention pace and energy. Holy crap, people been writing them off, they were amazing today. Our lads were terrific too, and it was a brilliant match, but it could easily have gone either way.
That sums up nicely, doesn’t it?
Fernando Torres: Make no mistake. El Nino is well and truly back. He’s been having some really good matches this season. In the last match, he could have got a hattrick but got a brace of assists. This time, he could have easily got a hattrick but ended with one important confidence-building goal. Yes, that was a bad miss but I don’t think it should play too much in his mind because he had a great game. And what a well taken goal that was. Great pass by Anelka and that’s exactly the kind of passes and support that Torres wants. Torres’ movement today was superb. His movement and the support he gets, have to go in tandem. I firmly think we’ve learnt how to use Torres and the man is also back in confidence. Can’t wait to see him in action next week!
Chelsea’s dominance: Look we were playing a red-hot Man Utd in Old Trafford who had just despatched Arsenal 8-2. And now, look how we played. We had them on the backfoot all through the game. Despite the offside goals and freak ricochet goal, we continued to pound them with our attacks. For about an hour, old Sir Alex must have had his heart in his mouth. In recent times, I don’t remember any other visiting team playing against them at Old Trafford like we did today.
Chelsea’s teamwork: Big positive! Chelsea’s teamwork in attack as well as in defence was brilliant. Suddenly, all Chelsea players seem to have figured out the strengths, weaknesses, styles and methods of their fellow Chelsea players. Our play showed how well we have been training and the amount of the work the manager has put in to make this possible. I said after the last match that we are clearly improving. Give us a few more matches – we are again becoming a dangerously good unit.
Andre Villas Boas: This was Boas’ first league defeat in about 18 months but what a game his team played! And for that, he should get the credit. He chose an attacking playing eleven and set up his team and tactics to attack Man Utd at Old Trafford. Hats off to Boas for subbing Lampard at half time. He shouldn’t have started Lamps but anyway he was quick to act as soon as he realised that. AVB is indeed looks to be a bold manager – on and off the pitch. Like we are saying, I’ve never ever felt so confident under a manager after Jose Mourinho. AVB looks to be the real deal. I have full confidence in him that he’s the right guy and that he needs all the support from us and from the board.
4-2-3-1: With the right tactic and with our squad, 4-2-3-1 looks like the most productive formation. In the second half when we changed to 4-2-3-1, we had Mata play behind Torres with Anelka and Sturridge on either sides of Mata. This also proved to be the ideal set up for unleashing Fernando Torres.
Chelsea’s attitude: I loved it. We were 3-0 down but we still gave a fight. We fought like real men. We had them on the rocks. We reduced their involvement in the game to counters. I could hear Fergie’s heart beat. The team’s attitude was well matched by the travelling Chelsea fans could be heard throught the match.
Manure’s luck: Never deserts them. Always lucky, especially at Old Trafford. They’re a very good team and I won’t take anything away from them but they are also a very very lucky team. Today, against the run of play, they took a lead from an offside goal. About two or three manures were offside there. To not disallow that goal was like a knife in the back for Chelsea who started very brightly. Then came the Nani thunderbolt, again helped with an unflagged offside along the set up. Finally, they had their cherry of lucky cake with a fortunate rebound falling at the feet of their prolific scorer about 6 yards in front of the goal. Call me whatever – all their three goals were against the run of play.
Phil Dowd: My most hated referee in the world of football. I always find him to be a Chelsea hater. I also think he is an attention seeker – a negative quality for any referee. Poor refereeing doesn’t always hit us through penalties and free kick in dangerous areas. Like today, a number of fouls went against us in our build up and as well as theirs. I hate to complain about referees in general but you gotta despite someone like Phil Dowd – a man that will always find himself under my BAD section every time officiates in our match.
Lampard: I’ve been saying that he doesn’t deserve a starting place, purely based on form. Even today, his performance in the first half was poor. He needed too much time and too many touches on the ball while the rest of the attack is moving forward swiftly. He is surely not in the kind of form to make the piercing passes that Mata, Anelka and Ramires made today. I’m sorry to say that we looked a much better team after he was subbed off. His days of being a sure-starter should definitely be over.
Daniel Sturridge: This wasn’t Sturridge’s day, clearly. Too many pointless shots and frequent losses of possession. Sadly for Sturridge, when he’s not in his spirits it shows quite clearly. His body language becomes very negative and defeatist. More than anything, his decision making goes awful. Should have got subbed at half time. Lukaku replaced Sturridge after the hour mark. Unfortunately, Lukaku was invisible mostly and when he was visible, I saw him committing an error. In his defence, he’s not the kind of player who can play in the right attacking midfield in the 4-2-3-1. He looks like an out and out striker. With the form that Torres is in, if Lukaku plays as a striker alongside Torres, he can draw some defenders to make space for Torres.
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It’s gotta be Fernando Torres. His best performance in a Chelsea shirt. Torres proved two things (a) his class and supreme quality (b) his confidence is back. He reminded us what a fantastic player he is and why we bought him. What he’s also managed is to cement his place in the playing eleven. He was right all along after all – with the right kind of playing style and supply of ball, he can be very dangerous indeed. If he can run rings around Man Utd defenders at Old Trafford, you’ve to agree that he’s back!
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Andre Villas Boas’ comments in the post-match were quite impressive. I like his communication style. He is respectful but at the same time, he gets his feelings across.
Normally when you create 21 opportunities at Old Trafford you should come away with at least a point and a couple were very good opportunities so I think 3-0 at half-time is crazy, If the 1-1 [from Ramires] goes in it is a different story. Before 1-0 we had a good chance as well. It was a chaotic game and to be fair a very open game. I am very happy with how our team reacted to such a negative half-time result and we showed commitment and desire to turn things around. We did everything within our power to try to find the second goal, which is difficult because you are always exposed and it was because of that that eventually United found the penalty that they missed, but we continued to attack and try to create opportunities but it just didn’t fall our way.
If it does and a little bit of luck comes in the game, then the result is different. It didn’t fall our way in every kind of the word, not only in goalscoring opportunities but referee or linesman decisions, not that I am looking for any excuse but it is the reality and they influenced the game. It’s a 2-0 instead of a 0-0 or whatever. I am pretty unhappy with how the linesman performed but these things happen in the game.
They are in a good position now but it is very, very early. Nothing that would happen here will mean anything in the Premier League table, and today, not that I want to overemphasise it, you had Man City going to Fulham and Fulham getting a point. Arsenal lost and Liverpool lost, so all five contenders for there and anything can happen. The most regular has been United but we showed we are up to the levels of the champions – it is just this time this game didn’t go our way but we will be up there competing for the title and I am glad sir Alex corroborates in this opinion.
This league season has yet to see the best of Boas’ Chelsea. On the other hand, I can say, we have seen the best of Man Utd. We are still putting the pieces together. We will settle down, consolidate and most probably peak when it matters. Most important thing is, we seem to have solved the Torres puzzle. That in itself would make us quite dangerous.
We’re 5 points off Man Utd. The season is still very young. We still need to play Man Utd at Stamford Bridge. Mata, Meireles, Lukaku and Romeu will settle down. Josh McE will emerge to prominence. All these things and the progress under Andre Villas Boas leaves me with a lot of hope and promise for this season. Not very often would you feel this way after a defeat. But I do feel this will be a great season for Chelsea. KTBFFH!

I hate the media in this country, as expected all focus is on Torres missing a sitter, and hardly a mention about BerbaFLOP doing the same!!! No mention of Phil Dowd the wanker winning Utd the game or that the linesman was clearly blind and gave away not 1 but 2 offside goals, while UTD fans are posting messages everywhere as if they dominated the game and Chelsea were soundly beaten and never stood a chance, L.O.L
Strangely, I feel better about our team after this defeat than I did before this match started. Clearly, we showed we can beat ManU. Yes, our defense looked really panicky, but that was almost expected because of how contrasting runs of form, both teams have had lately. There was a lot of energy in the way we played, and with a bit of a luck it would be enough to beat any team. We never really gave up or let ManU get comfortable. If Chelsea were to play ManU again one week later I would put my money on the blues. Hopefully the team, takes the positives from this match and start being more dominating as they are capable of, against most teams in the league. Finally Torres played like his price tag would suggest he should, and got a well deserved goal (sadly he missed a sitter which could have changed the story of the match), he should get more goals for sure if he keeps playing like this.
On the other hand, Nani! He was pretty much untouchable, we just couldn’t get the ball off of him. As much as it pains me to say it, great job!
It took 40 seconds for Lampard to leave until we scored.
BC did u notice how great Anelka was he she came on? He was superb. Too bad the day before the game he said he wants out.
Anyone who saw the match regardless of who they support know that Chelsea lost due to being unlucky in everything today. Fairly we should have won 6-1. We dismantled them. But the media and arrogant fans will claim Manchester United “dominated” Chelsea and hence the scoreline. The only thing we Chelsea fans have to complain about is sadly Frank Lampard and unsurprisingly Phil Dowd.
Sorry Frank but I have finally hopped on the bandwagon. I noticed exactly how you slow down attacks. Your Chelsea days are coming to an end my friend.
The good news is. Next week we play at home to Swansea. I’m not one to say I expect a certain amount of goals but I expect dominance and control in that match and then for Chelsea to slow down the tempo and control it until the whistle has blown. Surely they will want to punish someone for those missed chances. Also, Manchester United play Stoke away.
AVB has indeed transformed Jose’s Chelsea into his. Terry, Lampard and Drogba’s days are quickly ending.
Tremayne Craigg,
We play Fulham on Wednesday before that.
I’d like for us to bring Hazard in next season to fix that right wing problem.
Anyways… the 4-2-3-1 that Torres shined under in Liverpool and Spain combined with players finding him today caused a rebirth. Maybe AVB will try this.
Cech
Cole – Terry – Luiz – Bosingwa
Mereiles/McEachran – Mikel/Romeu
Malouda – Mata – Anelka/Sturridge
Torres
I for one would like to see that. Actually that is my formation on FM 11 right now when I think about it.
Xerxesk,
Oh thanks
Cech
Bertrand – Luiz – Ivanovic – Bosingwa
Mereiles – Mikel – McEachran
Mata – Torres – Anelka
Very fair summary of the match. http://tinyurl.com/3vychp2 If you didn’t see the game please read that.
Hard fought loss.
If today´s match showed anything, then it is that Chelsea are stronger than last year and are ambitious. My confidence on our squad grew up ten folds. we can win something great this season!
For the Fulham carling cup game we should play:
———-Hilario———–
Ferreira——-Alex—–Luiz——Bertrand
——–Josh McE—–Romeu——
————-Lampard———–
Kalou———Lukaku———–Malouda
Hard fought loss. Ramires wasted lot of chances. Luiz would have been a difference, though he is a def we could have used him to sub ramires.
After reading the team news wt no mikel, I decided not to watch the match
In big games like this, we need the balance he brings to the team
I dnt care about the so called free flowing football
I just want 3points first
Anyoda thing can follow
best loss ever…..the game was stunning and i would say the boys played like immortals…..IN AVB WE TRUST!!
Not too concerned with the result. We ran into United at a bad time.
Lamps looked ineffective from what I saw. Funny how so many of us penned our problems last year on Lamps’s long injury absence. This year, we’re complaining that he’s the source of a lot of our worries and needs to go. A year makes a lot of difference, I guess.
Torres looked pretty good today. Lost in all the talk about his bad miss was his really well taken goal. Hopefully we see more of that to come.
With the over 30′s player waning and playing less in the coming months but utilized when their experience counts …I guess it is time for Roman Abro to open his checkbook again as you can clearly see Chelsea is in the midst of a rebuilding phase…..and I think Chels does need at least one or two additions in January…..
The game last night is but one of many in this long marathon ….
approx 55 games left ( League Cup/FA/CL/ premiership)and we have shown we are improving and playing attractive football too…..
nevertheless many positives to takes from a loss and hopefully we peak at right time …
A game for everyone to live, play & enjoy.
Proud of Chelsea though.
Lose with style.
Lyk the refs the media lyk goal.com are also getting their feeding 4m SAF’s poop . Anyways up blues.. What a match it was !
wow.. what a match… it took me such a long time to get to sleep… and i must’ve repeated these six words atleast a 100 times… “How the Fcuk did he miss that..?” .. now this cud be said for both torres and ramires’ chances.. but i think the former’s miss was hard to swallow…
However, it was an absolutely incredible game of football.. even more entertaining than the 4-4 CL match with L’pool at the bridge. But the misses were a little hard to swallow just coz Man utd’s goals were so easy as compared to our solitary goal. I don’t mean Man utd played badly, but goals outta 2 offside decisions (out of which was a complete blinder) and 1 ricochet do not qualify as well worked out goals. Now if someone here says that UTD also blew away easy chances, i would retort by sayin, they probably wudn’t have got them if we wud have been 1-1 at HT.
Anyway, I think Torres was simply magnificent. If he had got the brace/hattrick it would have been like an icing on the cake, but his runs into the box, his alertness to a bad pass by anderson, latching onto a splendid ball by niko, steping over 2 defs to take a shot at de gea, numerous good first touches, and a great finish fr the one goal.. all r pointing towards the fact of his comeback.. the one thing remaining is ……. GOALS. :) and i think they r just around the corner.
One thing i like about AVB is his reluctance to discuss about torres in the press. I just love that. His assessment of the match was just super. It was neither entertainingly brash like mourinho and nor subtle boredom like that of ancelotti. I dont think we cud’ve ever been so positive after a loss.
I hope we crush swansea.
Couldn’t be more happy with a loss. In the midst of the misses, lets not forget AVB. He simply has been brilliant till now and I feel we can surely be feel assured of the Chelsea future in his hands.
I feel so releived that AVB recognises the liability which Lamps has become. One big disappointment was our defence. Ivanovic & Terry were simply not marking their men. Rooney unmarked in the six yard box, Smalling unmarked (Bosingwa & lamps the culprits), Nani running rings around Cole & Bosingwa. Another senior to have simply gone under the radar is Cech. He didn’t dive once in the match. The shoot from Nani though a stunner could have been well saved. Another shoot from Nani on the crossbar saw Cech standing outside the six yard box expecting the ball to hit him than he catching it. Instead could have easily tipped it over the bar had he stood his ground at the back. Another instance where he punched a deflected ball from Ivanovic instead of catching it. I don’t think Courtois would be loaned next year. The defense simply took all the sheen from the attack we were engaged in. Luiz could have been a big difference.
I have already read a dozen media shits having their dig at Torres after the game. I can’t wait for the season end when their dickheads shove so far up their arses.
i am sure if torres would have scored the second goal.. either we would have drawn or won the match as the momentum was with us.. but really loved the way we played in this match.. this is what i want from chelsea.. this is the tempo we should play every game with..
sorry for the name..
Not only for the season/ For the future too. Was amazing
Gee,hacks in England are proper sadist..l bet when Toress scored his first goal,the media were disappointed..they would have wanted him to miss so the hate-fest would continue.Well,prayers answered then..Torres missed so the Torress crises blog can continue.
lf torres was English and played for Man Utd,he wouldn’t be hated this much.When Rooney went through his tough period,the media was very supportive.All they could talk about was his work rate and assist.
If l hadn’t watch the game but just read the media reports,l wouldn’t have known Torres actually scored against the beloved Man Utd.Last time he scored against West ham,we were told he scored against a poor defence and was helped by a puddle of water.
AVB is working wonders though with the team’s style of play.Lampard ,however should just be given permanent residence on the bench.He was once once a legend but father time has finally caught up with him.
John Terry shouldn’t be starting any of the big games..he’s now a liability.The Ramires interception from the Rooney pass to hernandez was great but Terry was in wonderland.I’ll rather have Dvid luiz with all his faults ..
Peter Cech is now officially rubbish.Can’t remember the last time he made a save that got me off my seat.Meanwhile,before the game ,he was mouthing off of having studied all of Man Utd goals..so How else does the one dimensional Nani scores or he didn’t gather that from the videos he watched.
Ashley Cole was absolutely rubbish..Now l see why AVB wanted to buy Periera.He was useless against nani and even Valencia..Very Poor performance..Well,atleast he stopped Berbatov from scoring and showed Hernandez who’s boss.When John Evans gave Drogba a karate kick,Man Utd fans celeberated it and were laughing at Drogba writhing on the floor in pain.
And lampard ,hmm..don’t get me started,can’t create and assist and won’t help defend.For Utd’s third Lucky goal,he just stood by outside the box waiting on the edge of the box with hernandez and Nani waited for any defelcted ball inside the box..
Sturridge still needs to learn..and Ramires missed two glorious chances..
To think despite,all our frailties,the scored would have been 1-1 but not for the lines man that needs to visit spec saver.What if the reverse was the case and Chelsea had the two offside goal,we wouldn’t have heard the end of it for the next decade…Alex ferguson and his Man utd fans still talk about Drogba’s offside goal.Infact they even claim that’s the only reason why we won the league two years ago…
TWO OFFSIDE GOALS IN ONE GAME NOW THAT’S HISTORY
Dave,
excellent points mate. really agree with your comparison of how the media deals with us and Man utd. I just remember the time when rooney threw a tantrum for a better contract and the prostitute scandal, the media hardly took notice as compared to Ashley Cole shooting a guy on the field with an air-gun. Ok I agree that cole was careless, but i dont think rooney ws careless when he ws banging a pros. there is a clear bias in the media against us.
And, i dont know if you must’ve noted, SAF made the comment of “chelsea not being in the limelight” b4 sunday’s match. He himself knows how big a role media’s scrutiny plays in bringing down our players morale. Well thts sad.
Went thru some man utd blogs/forums.. and felt great to read thru the posts/comments and see that the prevailing opinion is that they were damn lucky to get of with a win.. not that i am happy/content with the loss… i was literally gutted for hours after those 2 torres misses. But there are load of positive signs.
@Dave… Petr Cech is the best we’ve got now and i dont think 2 petr cechs cud’ve saved tht wondergoal. It was something like essien’s wondergoal against arsenal when we were trailing 0-1 to them a couple of seasons ago. He cudnt have done anything about 2nd and 3rd, but he cud’ve stepped of his line and tried to punch of young’s FK which was going away from the far post.
Lamps has to be on the bench, no doubt abt tht, and i really feel we should have 4-2-3-1 formation more often, and was it just me or was mikel a tad slow when he came on yesterday. He didnt seem too interested either. Lost the ball more often than he got to touch them.
Dave,
excellent points mate. really agree with your comparison of how the media deals with us and Man utd. I just remember the time when rooney threw a tantrum for a better contract and the prostitute scandal, the media hardly took notice as compared to Ashley Cole shooting a guy on the field with an air-gun. Ok I agree that cole was careless, but i dont think rooney ws careless when he ws banging a pros. there is a clear bias in the media against us.
And, i dont know if you must’ve noted, SAF made the comment of “chelsea not being in the limelight” b4 sunday’s match. He himself knows how big a role media’s scrutiny plays in bringing down our players morale. Well thts sad.
Went thru some man utd blogs/forums.. and felt great to read thru the posts/comments and see that the prevailing opinion is that they were damn lucky to get of with a win.. not that i am happy/content with the loss… i was literally gutted for hours after those 2 torres misses. But there are loads of positive signs.
@Dave… Petr Cech is the best we’ve got now and i dont think 2 petr cechs cud’ve saved tht wondergoal. It was something like essien’s wondergoal against arsenal when we were trailing 0-1 to them a couple of seasons ago. He cudnt have done anything about 2nd and 3rd, but he cud’ve stepped of his line and tried to punch of young’s FK which was going away from the far post.
Lamps has to be on the bench, no doubt abt tht, and i really feel we should have 4-2-3-1 formation more often, and was it just me or was mikel a tad slow when he came on yesterday. He didnt seem too interested either. Lost the ball more often than he got to touch them.
Tremayne Craigg,
I agree with u Terry, Lampard and Drogba’s days are quickly ending…I hope we add a right winger in January
kaz,
Cech could have stopped the second goal. Infact he attempted a dive only for the third goal which he was no way going to get as if to show he tried. He stood still in another Nani shoot(the one that hit the crossbar). He was standing outside the 6 yard box and expecting the ball to hit him rather than staying back, could have easily tipped it over the bar. Another instance where he punched a deflected ball from Ivanovic instead of catching it. I don’t think Courtois would be loaned next year.
I have copy pasted these from one of my earlier comments which was not posted. I became a bit over-emotional hence its under moderation :)
MAN Utd fly higher and higher.
Make sure you maitain your standard. Don’t take everything for granted.
Bravo Bravo Bravo Manchester United.
Mutondo
E-mailL: chriskakai@co.uk
MAN Utd fly higher and higher. Improve your style of coordination in the field.
Make sure you maintain your standard. Don’t take everything for granted.
Bravo!Bravo! Bravo! Manchester United.
Mutondo
For the neutrals, the game was superb. But for me, a blue-blood, it was awful to watch. How the heck did Ramires miss that. Forget, the Torres one, Ramires’ miss was pivotal for the game. Momentum could have swang our way. I thought Fernando played well and he surely deserves an extended run in the team. I fear there may be problems though when Drogba gets back. Lampard now , it’s clear, only plays for himself. Too self-conscious to realise he’s the oldie in the team really playing his age. Drogba maybe 33 but he still plays like he’s in his 20s. Anelka puts in a shift. I like Sturridge but yesterday he showed why we cant trust youngsters to win us the league. Sturridge should know he plays in a team and not try to shoot and try outrageous stunts. He was really frustrating yesterday. I agree that Ashley Cole had a torrid time yesterday. Manure’s attack is strictly based on wing play. Any manager knows that. If u cut off their wings, u stop them from flying. Simple as that. Yet our full backs kept back off and backing off. We were unlucky. We are not on form but we played well. My only gripe with Andre is that he made the game too open for Manure. We are not out of the title yet. Long way to go.
Chris M.,
Oops! Chelsea blog mate. Yeah, but I agree utd shouldn’t take everything for granted as you did yesterday. It hurts more when you are knocked off your ‘higher and higher’ perch.
Great fighting performance from Avb and his boys. Fills me with so much faith and hope for the future. Glimpses of a resurgent torres working with Mata, and anelka. Avb impresses me to no end with especially his ability to bench lampsy after benching Terry mid week. That for me is what previous Chelsea bosses have been unable to do to the detriment of the team. Now we have a man with the balls to do just that. Reminds me of ferries ability to bench anyone regardless. The message now is you can only be intouchable thro your performance not cos of your name or nationality.
But one area I disagreed with avb yesterday was bringing on Mikel when we really needed someone who could drive the game from the middle to give us solidity at the defensive mid position as well as momentum going forward. And that guy was King David and not Mikel. Some of our blue fans claim Luiz has not been tried there so we can’t be sure. But any reading of his game, tackling, speed, passing, shooting will convince one that Luiz is even a better version of Belleti. And we will recall that belleti always played that role to perfection. The brazilians just have what it takes for that role. Hoping avb sees that sooner. That really will solve issues. I also don’t understand why avb does not rate alex. For me he is our best CB.
Hi to you BC, and to you also old pal JoeBlue and of course to Holiday.
Completely baffled to see more articles today questioning whether Torres will ever regain his form! I thought he was fantastic the other day. People are starting to pick faults with Chelsea that arent there any more and its startng to P me off.
Also was glad to see Villas-Boas not bemoan the refereeing in his interview on Sky. Just admitting it was a crazily open game and with some more luck couldve easily gone our way. In my opinion it certainly should have.
For the Fulham carling cup game we should play:
———-Hilario———–
Ferreira——-Alex—–Luiz——Bertrand
——–Josh McE—–Romeu——
————-Lampard———–
Kalou———Lukaku———–Malouda
Dont know if anyone has read Paul Parker’s article on Yahoo.Eurosport UK about Ashley Cole. There’s a fine line between slander and liable but the man has crossed it. You cant accuse someone of deliberatley hurting people on the job.
Based on the last two games, I would say that Mata and Anelka(Instead of Sturridge) should play alongside Torres, Anelka has been giving killer passes in the short stretches of time he got to play.
BTW to anyone who used words like ‘energy’ to argue why Manure would beat us, did you see how we defended yesterday. We had a lot of trouble trying to keep their wingers especially Nani in check, but whenever they beat one defender another one appeared.
KTBFFH.
I like this a lot!! though i would prefer josh being the strikers…. i respect Mikel alot… it shows me what he offers when he does not play.. we need his calmness
kaz,
Wondergoal? hmm…I dont think Nani’s goal was Cech’s fault, he wasnt protected at all by our midfield or defence. This is the opposite side of a medal if you play Mereiles vs Mikel in DM: better/faster passing but worse defence. I think this was a calculated risk and AVB was hoping Lampard would help in defence more, but…
Dont agree on Ashley Cole too with DAVE, he had an OK game, but our CD line was aweful (not the first time). We should NOT pair Terry with Iva or Terry with Alex — both are slow and not just in running but in reacting too, thus the panic. There is no undestanding between them. If we pair just one of them with Luis we should be OK. I am really disappointed with Surridge. This was the game where he could have really shown what he can do in important games, vs not in form Evra, but he was just very bad and shown no discipline. I dont know what got into him.
But more importantly– on Torres. Wow, what a performance. I dont care about the miss — he is just human. Obviously the noise about his interview was just that — a noise, and AVB and Nando made the right conclusions. He has shown a real quality in this game and I am very hopefull for a great future. UP BLUES!
It’s amazing. Rooney completely botches the pen and gets just a smile.
But Nando terrorizes the Manu defense all day, creates chances, scores a real beauty, but then misses a sitter and press and TV commentators have a field day. What a hypocrisy!
But what can we expect…we will always be an ugly duckling for the press…
marks,
….and the pen itself…there should been no pen!!! Bossi didnt touch Nani at all. Plus 2 goals from offside… Man, these ref decisions were a day time robbery!!!
Sorry for the long rant, I am out.
denverblue,
Ya actually forget about Mikel. We should start with him or bring Romeu in.
MARK CORRECT FOR YOUR COMMENT. I LIKE IT
‘It’s amazing. Rooney completely botches the pen and gets just a smile.
But Nando terrorizes the Manu defense all day, creates chances, scores a real beauty, but then misses a sitter and press and TV commentators have a field day. What a hypocrisy!
But what can we expect…we will always be an ugly duckling for the press…’
This is the team I would pick for the league cup match on Wednesday: Cech, Ivanovic, Alex, David Luiz, Cole, Ramires, Romeu, McEachran, Kalou, Malouda, Lukaku.
Torres played well but how can he miss that sitter and the two early chances in the beginning! Ramires was at fault but i think Sturridge shouldn’t have put his foot on Ramires! Chelsea played better than manure, the scoreline is a lie, thanks to Torres and Ramires!
What a match eh..gave me the nightmares, a lot like arsenal and thats not good.
We really abandoned the defence and were being split on every counter, it was brave but foolish to play like that at United, sure we gave them a game but with the form they are in you shouldnt be exposing yourself so. Also agree with all who say that Ivano and Terry should not be paired, for me it should be Ivano and Luiz, would be a great one.
The midfield was workaholic but i dont know why only i see that it is full of workers not creators, meriless and ramires are not really no.10′s add lampard to that lot and it worsens. For me there is no excuse for anelka not starting, sure he might not be the scorer he was but he has a nice little pace and amazing passing as well as vision.
Regarding torres, yes he was good but he has to start doing that more, until he really frees himself i wont be convinced he is actually back, his miss as well as ramires’s, just horrendous, you cannot slip away such opportunities in a match of this magnitude.
Finally this match also should really quiten those who want to promote youth just because of some cameos here and there, Sturridge was absolutely a waste and lukaku was abject, i dont think he even controlled one pass well, they are nowhere looking like chelsea quality(not saying that they cant be) but they are not YET good enough.
joeblue,
You predicted it right, 3-1. But chelsea did surprise you eh, buddy?
joeblue,
If you compare position to position in this game to me United won because Nani was much better than Sturridge/Lukaku and Utd central defence line was slightly better (more organized, calmer, better passers) than ours. But I don’t want to blame particular players, especially young ones, they should use this as learning experience.
chelsito
undoubtedly mate it was a good peformance by the lads, they left nothing back, we threw even the kitchen sink at them, so no complaints with the desire or commitment. Taking nothing away from them or AVB who looks the part.
Marks
Not placing the blame on any one player, our defence was porous and our attack not potent enough, the wingbacks gave nothing going forward, the cb’s were all over the place, the strikers were not clinical enough etc etc, you win as a team loose as a team but some performances were bad which eventually decided the game and thats what is always the difference in big games such as these. Dont get me wrong there was nothing disheartening or gloomy with that performance we did do well, but lets just not paper over cracks, where there was cause for complaint i wont shy away to point it out.
Totally disagree.
Firstly, Sturridge is no ‘youth’. He’s 22 years old. Mata is 23 years old. For a striker, 22 years is no youth.
Lukaku was unfortunate to be thrown in on Sunday. The boy had played only 10 mins for Chelsea before. And now he comes in (a) against Man Utd (b) at Old Trafford (c) in an unnatural position (d) when the score is 3-1 down.
Like I always say, the problem is not the quality of our youth. The problem is the quality of orientation and integration. If we had plans of playing Lukaku at Old Trafford, he should have played against Leverkusen, Norwich City or West Brom.
You see how players like Wellbeck and Phil Jones are being integrated into the manure playing eleven. Gradually allowing them to learn and mature. We miss those opportunities. I’ll tell you, every home game against non-top team is an opportunity. But we miss those and land them on a hostile Old Trafford while trailing the game by 2 goals. Not right.
Well on the plus side, Josh, Oriol, Ryan, Romelu will all start the match tomorrow, along with the monster that is DIDIER DROGBA …. Welcome back DD, if there was one player whose desire and hunger I solely missed on sunday, it had to be DD. Glad to have him back, may him and Torres score goals for fun, for season(s) to come. KTBFFH …
With respect to playing and developing youth, I think one thing to keep in mind is that most of United’s players went out on loan before their integration into the starting side. Welbeck, Cleverly and Evans are all examples. Other young guys played extensively at other clubs before joining United, like Jones. And the loan spells were at top flight clubs, not Championship teams. So in the recent past, even United haven’t developed their young players by feeding them to the wolves – they’ve given them a chance to succeed by serving apprenticeships elsewhere.
I think it would benefit us if McEachran, Lukaku, and perhaps a few others go out on loan spells. It’s going to be tough for them to get playing time in this squad. A good loan spell might do wonders – just look at how that’s benefited Sturridge for us and also Jack Wilshire (loan spell at Bolton) and Kyle Walker (loan spell at Villa).
Very good performance by Kakuta in the cup match today for Bolton. We should seriously consider sending players on loan to Owen Coyle … he he :)
In Jan window, I think we should go to market for a playmaker. Mata will not be able to play all season all matches. On top of that ,One right winger + Gary cahill would be ideal
Hi, i have been reading this blog for a while now and i enjoy it thoroughly but this is the first time i have left a comment. I have to say i have been pleasantly surprised with the way the team has started playing especially last week and hats off to AVB for enforcing this style. We have become fluent and fast going forwards and this has slowly been improving since the start of the season. However, some changes are still needed (imho)and i believe we still need to invest in an out and out RB, another CB, playmaker and RW. I agree with the last comment about getting cahill who in my humble opinion can replace terry at the back. I think we need to go back for modric in january and also make a massive effort to sign up e.hazard as he is going to be a massive player very soon if he isn’t already. At RB we need more quality especially someone who can deliver those crosses into the box and for me van der wiel comes to mind. My team going forward if we can add the quality we need would be based on 4-2-3-1 with cech, v.wiel,ivanovic,cahill,cole,ramires(or luiz), meireles, e.hazard, l.modric, j.mata and torres up front. One brilliant signing for us could be hulk but its unrealistic especially with his ridiculous buyout clause
Furthermore i think there’s a few youngster out there we should try and snap up such as A.llana (southampton), r.barkley(everton), j.rodwell(everton)and k.de brunye(genk). Thats all from me. Thanks for reading.
I liked Roman´s idea of using youth in the Carling cup. That should really help them in their development.
one thing i DID NOT like about the man utd game was .. there was a kinda redemption for smalling.. i might be giveing too much importance for a decent player.. but i still remember they way he faltered when we were trailing fulham by a goal down in 09-10 season and coz of his mistake we won data game, and again the next season we got a penalty against man utd coz he tripped zhirkov in the box… and it is tht same guy he scored the opener against us .. and that too from an offside posn.. and his head found the ball inspite of our seasoned defenders in the vicinity.. OUCH!!!!
one thing i DID NOT like about the man utd game was .. there was a kinda redemption for smalling.. i might be giving too much importance for a decent player.. but i still remember they way he faltered when we were trailing fulham by a goal down in 09-10 season and coz of his mistake we won that game, and again the next season we got a penalty against man utd coz he tripped zhirkov in the box… and it is tht same guy he scored the opener against us .. and that too from an offside posn.. and his head found the ball inspite of our seasoned defenders in the vicinity.. OUCH!!!!
moby,
Hey Moby.. great to see u here.. i agree with most of what you’ve written and i am totaaly for the 4-2-3-1 formation too. However i wouldn’t be concerned so much about the RB posn as of now with Bsoingwa putting in good shifts recently. However, i really want somebody for the RM posn, so yes we should definitely go for hazard and then may be mata can play on right and hazard on left. Modric should be good for us no doubt, but if we go for him in Jan he wouldnt be available for UCL and I highly doubt whether we should go for a 40 mil player who wudnt be thr for UCL ( same goes for hazard as heez playin for lille in UCL) and moreover we have piazon coming in Jan… and YES.. Hulk would be a phenomenal purchase.. but his buy-out clause of 100 mil is pure bullcrap. There were reports that Anzhi had almost finalized a deal @ 87 or 93 mil and at the last moment porto wanted more and so the deal didnt happen. I think we can get 2-3 good players for that amount. i dunno if sevilla is playin in europa.. but if not.. we shud surely go for Jesus Navas. he hs got great pace, is a spain international and is excellent for the right flank.
Hi kaz. Thanks for thew welcome. With regards to bosignwa, i’m still not convinced by him. Yes, agreed he has put in some decent performances so far but he still frustrates me with his crossing and weak defending but i guess he’s going to have to play until january so we’ll see how things go. I think (and don’t quote me on this) but i think a club can pick one player who hasn’t represented a team in the same competition for the later knockout rounds which is what happened with real madrid a few seasons back when they signed diarra and huntellar in the winter transfer window and they had to choose one as they’d both represented their previous teams in the europa league. So from my understanding modric would be allowed to play as tottenham are not in UCL. May be worth looking into. With regards to hazard, you’re completely right but i was hoping to sign him up so that he would join us next summer. I have a feeling he is going to have a big season and then teams like real and barcelona will start sniffing around and also his price will go up. I like the way AVB is going about his work. Not making too much noise, signed up some good talent especially in courtois (who has been brilliant for atletico so far) and also davila. In AVB we trust!
Looking forward to todays game, will be interesting to see the younger players play against a strong opposition in fulham.
I loved what Villas-Boas said in his press conference today about the refereeing in Sunday’s match. Without criticising anyone or demanding change or an apology, he just pointed out that it was his team that had to pay the price and were to be criticised in the press because of an officials mistake.
He was right to imply incidents like this should not just be swept under the rug. Obviously its still too early to tell but I think our manager could really facilitate change in English football for the better.
He’s exactly what you want as a fan – an honest, well spoken gentleman that takes no c**p.
moby,
Hi Moby! New commenter with long comments – MOST WELCOME :-)
Fair point on Bosingwa. Am I the only one that thinks Bosingwa’s quantity of crossing has come down while the quality remains the same (which means less damage to us)?
i am SOOOOOOOOOO relieved… the nightmares of torres’ miss wud be gone from today… roberto soldado.. misses a goal on a open goal against barca.. from a yard out.. yes… from a yard out… and that too the ball was almost at the center of the goal posts.. whew.. what a miss.. i m lovin it.. :)
So nice that we won in the shootout, nicer that Terry scored from the spot!
hey great to see that we broke the jinx of goin outta carling cup inspite of being reduced to 10 men and suffering a shoot-out.. i couldn’t watch the match yesterday so cud someone please give an account of how romeu,lukaku, mce and bertrand played.. thanx
Bertrand : Not great going forward apart from one good run and a shoot, but defensively strong. Has better crosses than Cole, but Cole is too big a boot for him to fill in.
Josh : Delight to watch. A great run into the box and squared the ball off to sturridge(in off side position) to tap in. His vision is out of this world and could have also assisted Lukaku with one of those 30 yard defense splitter. Sacrificed in just 45 minutes for Alex’s red.
Lukaku : Looked like a good deal till 70 minutes. No nonsense play. Not a winger. 2 or 3 great runs only to be let down by his crosses or the lack of options ahead. Should use his physical advantage a bit more to head the balls. Exhausted after 70 mins, decided to become a jogger in the park.
Romeu : MOTM for me. 120 mins pure display of orthodox holding midfielder – maka style. He and Luiz ran their heart out for the team. Chasing every ball, held the ball well and sprayed it quickly to continue the play.
chelsito,
Agree with you mostly. Luiz played with a lot of heart. I also liked how Alex played, no matter who was making a good run at the goal Alex would go and clear the threat. Not sure but I think the tackle for which he got a red card was legit, I mean he probably did get the ball.
IMHO McEachran/Terry substitution was a wrong one.
chelsito,
thanks a lot chelsito.. great to hear about romeu and McE.. does anyone here think romeu can make the startin line-up for PL matches.. and even if he does .. how wud he fit in… whose shoes wud he fill.. wud it be ramires or meireles or lamps…does he provide good enuf cover for the back four so that the fron t can go ahead doin their job…? I know McE is a proven starter.. but do u guys think romeu could/should feature in matches like the ones against teams like swansea/wolves/wigan/norwich etc.
Guys the new GK we bought who we loaned to Atletico, Courtois, has ha 3 cleansheets ready!
Guys, I dont know if you saw it, in todays Utd CC game vs Leeds Berbatov played a central defender for a while…I am not kidding. They were 3 Up by that time, so there was not much risk I guess…but I gotta tell you dude pulled it off very nicely. One of my most favorite players in EPL, regardless of my dislike of Utd in general, his touch and passing is sublime. This shows any professional player should be able to put a shift at any position and not be scared. We need to experiment with our players too….
KAZ,
I feel Romeu should be in the starting line-up, infact even more so than McEachran. With the manager trying to start building attacks from defence I think itll be important to have a player like Romeu, who seemingly more than anyone else in the team, will instinctively drop back when David Luiz or Ivanoivc or Bosingwa moves forward. I know Mikel has been used like this for the past few seasons but I think Romeu will do it more naturally – last night he certainly seemed more confident than Mikel usually does picking the ball up deep from the keeper or defenders under pressure is his own half, and he almost never gave away possesion.
I think Saturday he should start in midfield alongside Ramires, Meireles and Mata.
I think Romeu should be played only in the Carling & FA cups this year, we should refrain from exhibiting much of his talents to Barca to avoid the buy-back. Untill then we have good players in ramires and mikel to play the role. It would be gross injustice if Romeu finds 1st team place before Josh, who I feel is technically head & shoulders above any of our midfielders except Mata. Josh’s limitation of looking quite frail is actually deceptive as I feel he is strong enough to hold his ground against DMs and also has good defensive abilities. Apart from that when was the last time someone saw lamps bullying midfielders to find his way through.
My team for Swansea:
————-Cech—————
Bosingwa—Iva—-Terry—–Cole
————Ramires————-
——Mereiles—-Josh———-
Anelka———————-Mata
————-Torres————-
I just can’t wait for the day when I see Mata & Josh starting a match. Though today, I feel Mikel will get the nod, not Josh. Luiz, Lamps may not start because of their exhausting match against Fulham.
I hope that Luiz will feature regularly…he is full of passion!
Another good performance, despite being down to 10 men. A confident finish by Torres, a nice double by Ramires and Drogba scoring the way he often does, without even looking towards the goal. Although I have to admit their defense and especially their GK weren’t very good.
The goal that we conceded was almost a mirror image of Manure’s first goal against us. Our defense against set pieces should tighten up.
Anyways, we get 3 points and a confidence boosting win. KTBFFH!
AVB earned my respect and support for the last 2 weeks for subbing Lamps at Old Trafford and dropping from 1-st eleven this week.
Regardless of the red card Torres keeps impressing. In fact his tackle was a sign that he fights for every ball both in attack and defence. Well done!
Ehh, can’t we appeal for Torres to lower the 3 games?
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