While Chelsea were breaking premier league records this season, there was one record that went unnoticed – that was the number of times anyone ever used the word ‘fantastic’ in a season. You can’t blame Ancelotti. Given his limited vocabulary in English and the way the season has gone, he had to use it 257 times. It was a fantastic season as we won in a fantastic league thanks to the fantastic players and their fantastic commitment. So how fantastic has he been? How well has Ancelotti done? It’s not a question whether he has delivered because he indeed has. I would never doubt a winner. If a coach has won the league title that has spanned over 38 matches, over 10 months, in a competitive league such as this, you have to give it to him. Did he live up to the expectations is a better question. So here we go . . .
It was expected of you & Chelsea, Mr. Ancelotti!
This was to be Chelsea’s season right from the beginning. Man Utd had lost Ronaldo and were missing Tevez. They were relying big time on Rooney while they had an ineffective Berbatov. Nani or Valencia was not expected to replace Ronaldo in this season. Liverpool were never going to be a threat for the league title under Rafa Benitez, probably even kops know it. Arsenal might go on an open top celebration tour as long as they get their champions league spot. Man City weren’t going to be a title winning side this season. So basically, this was a season where Chelsea were best placed to win the title.
If Carlo had won the title in April, with a few matches in hand, he’d have done a great job. The reason is, such was the gulf between Chelsea and Man Utd this season. The fact that the table shows just a point separating us and them is so misleading. This is not a season that we should have been run so close by Man Utd. This is not the season to be won on the last day. We should have had this wrapped up by April.
Chelsea have had set backs this season against sides that they should have had no trouble. Though we have always come back strongly from set backs, there is something that did not impress me. All our come backs are ‘inter-match’ recoveries and not ‘intra-match’ recoveries. Basically the come backs are after a draw or a defeat and not so much after a conceded goal or after having a player sent off etc, if you know what I mean. This lack of intra-match resilience is what made teams dominate us in certain matches while we were beaten. This was new to Chelsea as we were always known for our intra-match as well as inter-match resilience. This leads to my gripe about some of our painful defeats this season.
Losing 2-4 to Man City at Stamford Bridge was unbearable. Particularly, given the circumstances and media attention at that time, losing heavily at home to Man City was truly the last thing we wanted. Having dominated Man City for a whole half to lose it 2-4 at home is unacceptable. The manner in which we lost our lead thrice against Everton at home was horrendous and that counts as the most disappointing match this season for me. We were all over Everton but could only get one point out of the match. That 3-1 defeat at Wigan was another match that showed our lack of intra-match resilience.
Chelsea was always expected to beat Inter in the champions league over two legs. While we were unlucky with some decisions at San Siro, I won’t say we deserved to progress ahead of Inter. By JM’s admission, it was after their win at Stamford Bridge, the Inter team started believing in themselves that they can go distance in this champions league. We were the clear favourites to beat Inter and we simply failed. We did not rise up to the occasion while Inter did. All that we needed at Stamford Bridge was a 1-0 and we couldn’t do it. There is no other word to this than ‘failure’.
Just when we were getting closer to the title, we were beaten fair and square by Tottenham. It was a match that further showed that this Chelsea team is unable to pick themselves up from the adversities during a match. Moreover, we didn’t appear to have prepared well for the match. That’s one other thing I noticed. Our preparation is not top notch. That happens when we rely completely on our strengths and not rely so much on capitalising on the opponents’ weaknesses. You just can’t lose such key matches especially when you already hold the lead in the table.
Probably it’s forgotten now that we had massive issues with set piece defending in the first half of our season. For a team like Chelsea, known for its structure and organisation, now with an Italian manager with an illustrious career, the number of goals and points that we shipped due to bad set piece defending, was just not good enough.
While Chelsea were growing old, you can’t deny the fact that we had the most stability as far as the players are concerned. We had no big player leaving or joining. We had a good team spirit and camaraderie. In a way, you can say that if Carlo hadn’t won this league title this season, he would have failed miserably.
Shame you’re not arrogant, because you are a fantastic one!
As I said, I would never want to doubt a winner because there is no reason. Carlo is the champion and it’s not easy to be a champion in any league, let alone the English premier league. History does not remember the points difference or the goal difference – it only remembers the champions. And Carlo is one. For any manager to come to the premier league and win the league title in his first season, is an amazing achievement.
We can say a lot about how our rivals weren’t a match to us and that we should have won earlier but how does it matter exactly? There was a league title to be won and we did just that. We need to keep in mind that this was a season where Chelsea lost its key players to African Nations Cup. Weren’t we supposed to succumb in January? Didn’t January turn out to be the most productive month of the season?
The new Chelsea relies a lot on our full backs. This trend started particularly last season. We were so full-back-driven that at one point of time, our opponents thought that if they stopped our full backs they’d get a result. For a team so reliant on full backs to lose Bosingwa for the whole season and Ashley Cole for a good part of the season definitely was a big blow. But Carlo was not ruffled. He continued with our style and in most times we ended up playing even a 3-5-2 with Mikel dropping back between the centre backs while the full backs operate like wingers.
Carlo’s unrelenting approach was rewarded with a record 103 goals scored in the league campaign. Now, scoring 103 goals in the league has nothing to do with Ronaldo not being there at Man Utd or Arsenal and Liverpool being managed by Wenger and Benitez respectively. Basically, no matter how weak your rivals are, to score 103 goals in a 38-match league is phenomenal and must be respected and appreciated. You just have to give it to King Carlo!
The John Terry issue came at the most inopportune time for Chelsea. When it was still in the headlines, we had to play none other than Man City themselves, which was sandwiched between the home and away champions league matches against Inter. That was indeed tough. We have shrugged off the controversy and also the champions league disappointment admirably to retain our focus on the premier league. Carlo must take the credit for having led the troops in a calm and collected fashion and also reiterating what he cares about – football.
I like it when managers beat their rivals and win those big matches. I love it when they create a fortress at home and beat the rivals at their back yard. Carlo is a top manager. His double over our rivals is a further testimony to that. I’m happy that he has won the league which represents the performance of the team and the coach, more than champions league.
The huge impact that Carlo has made is also the respect that he has earned for Chelsea. He has won the title, he’s scored the goals, he’s playing in a way that the media cannot call ‘boring’, he has been absolutely uncontroversial. He has certainly improved Chelsea’s image. But the credit should also go to the club management. The decision to stop the big spending has been a good decision. This is not a bunch of players who are playing for money. This is a team full of life and energy and these players fight for the club, fellow players and the fans. You only have to look how Chelsea defended against Wigan on the last even after going 6-0 up.
One might say that this is Jose Mourinho’s squad. While that’s true, this success belongs to Carlo Ancelotti. That’s because while the fundamentals are from the TSO, the style and swagger patently belongs to the TFO. Don’t take anything away from the TFO. Let’s not even compare the TSO and TFO – both are winners and both are distinct. What Jose Mourinho did to Chelsea cannot be undone or bettered by any manager. Mount Everest has been climbed by more than 3,000 people now but Sherpa Tenzing and Edmund Hillary are remembered for a reason. JM’s achievement was very special. It’s like the birth of your first child. It’s very special but it no way undermines the memories of your later ones.
The reason why Man City would never win the title without a top manager is this – to win titles, the players and the team needs to believe. This thing called belief is what the top managers instill in players. With every win they make you believe you can do it. That’s what Jose Mourinho gave Chelsea. That belief has stayed with us. Without belief, no money or superstars can bring you success.
Let’s appreciate TSO and TFO for their respective achievements without having choose one over the other. The circumstances were different and so were the objectives and challenges. I’d like to say this again – this success this season belongs to Carlo Ancelotti and we should take nothing away from him.
So . . . stand up for The Fantastic One!






King Carlo..More than Special:):)
True BC, i second every word you said. We need some players like Milner etc..who never stop running. As of now we have just Lamps, Branners and Ashley who I think we cannot fault in any game. People can have bad games, but its the application that counts. The will, the desire. In each of the defeats which you mentioned, our players looked clueless. Would want that rectified. No other complaints. TFO??Fantastic TFO:):)More than special.
KTBFFH!!!
Carlo is the King!
lol BC… how did you get the count for the word fantastic? did you do any sort of text searching across the web?
essien was out for 6 months and that was te reason for our losing in ucl and not winning the league in april
[quote comment="82268"]essien was out for 6 months and that was te reason for our losing in ucl and not winning the league in april[/quote]
I think given the set of players that were available throughout the season, we still could have won the title in April and probably have further progressed in the champions league. Anyway, as I said, that’s not to take anything away from Carlo!
[quote comment="82265"]lol BC… how did you get the count for the word fantastic? did you do any sort of text searching across the web?[/quote]
Ha ha! To quote from Dilbert: “Studies have shown that the accurate numbers aren’t any more useful than the ones you make up” :-)
Big Ears for TSO…..again
milito really is class. jose wins the treble for inter.
Mou wins CL again!!! Congratulations Mou!!! This Season has been fantastic!!!
[quote comment="82272"]milito really is class. jose wins the treble for inter.[/quote]
Jose has done a good job at inter,I hope we do well next season too
i love TFO! but i do miss TSO! :’( he shudve been a blue still!
Yes! Yes! Yes! This season belongs to ME! My beloved Chelsea does the double and my beloved TSO does the treble! When he joined Inter, there were questions around how can he improve on an excellent record by Mancini. He’s gone and done the treble! He’s won them the champions league after 45 years. He’s truly a very special one! Ah! What a season!
Champagne, Jose, Champagne !
Its funny how you Chelsea fans mention Mourinho in everything. When will Chelsea come out of his shadow? A manager cant be bigger than the club itself.
Mourinho has already shown his bitterness over Chelsea double… and now he’s won the Treble so tell Chelsea it was a mistake to sack him.
Open your eyes….
http://thechelseablog.org/2010/05/19/sour-grapes-over-chelsea-double/
[quote comment="82281"]Open your eyes….
http://thechelseablog.org/2010/05/19/sour-grapes-over-chelsea-double//quote
Well said dude, exactly what I think, TSO will always be a beloved manager for the blues but that doesn’t mean he’s bigger than the club. He might love chelsea but from time to time he also goes on to degrage us when we acheive something “WITHOUT HIM” he keeps on calling us his chelsea, and how the bridge is his home and how he cried when he knocked us out the UCL …. to me all that sounds like moans of a drama queen.
He’s a intellegent man who knows what to say, when to say and how to say, to keep the spot light focused on “HIM”
As to Mourinhos ghost, don’t forget it was Ranieri who signed Cech and Lampard and made Terry a regular first team player. Those 3 players are the backbone of todays Chelsea. Ranieri also signed Joe Cole.
Here is some interesting stats from 3 past seasons.
2004-2005 – Champions, 95 points
Mourinho’s signings – 147 appearances (29%)
Ranieri’s signings – 326 appearances (63%)
Other signings – 41 appearance (8%)
2005-2006 – Champions, 91 points
Mourinho’s signings – 177 appearances (33%)
Ranieri’s signings – 326 appearances (60%)
Other signings – 41 appearance (7%)
2006-2007 – 2nd, 83 points.
Mourinho’s signings – 319 appearances (62%)
Ranieri’s signings – 194 appearances (38%)
Conclusion must be that Ranieri bought wiser than Mourinho. Of course it’s results that counts and therefore its fully understandable that Mourinho has legendary status at Chelsea. Chelsea have moved on, admittedly in a very wasteful and turbulent way, but the important aspect is that we have the stability (kicked off by Guus Hiddink and refined by Carlo Ancelotti) needed to become a truely great force in world football.
I totally agree with Ishant and Jaz that Mourinho takes up way too much space in the minds of many Blues. He has moved on and is doing very well, we have moved on and are doing very well.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Carlo and Mourinho will meet again next season. (Chelsea v Real Madrid 2011 Final) But this time around Chelsea will lift the Big Ears.
Well Danablue . . . you don’t need to bring up the stats mate because this has got nothing to do with stats. It’s Mourinho’s approach always to have the best squad possible and if that can be achieved with no new players he would do that too. Ranieri did make some very good purchases that we should always be grateful to him but as I mentioned it is JM who gave them the ‘belief’ to be champions and made them one.
Also, I don’t understand when someone says ‘no one is bigger than the club’. That’s obvious and why should that phrase come up every time we speak about Jose? When people speak very highly of Zola, they are not reminded ‘you know what, no one is bigger than the club’. That’s why I find it strange.
The city of Naples still loves their adopted son Diego Maradona, for something he did 20 years back. They’ll never stop talking about Diego even if they win loads of trophies later on. Mourinho does take up too much space in the minds of many blues, rightfully so.
There are people who have brought us tremendous joy and delight. No matter where they go and what they do, some of us (I’m one of them) continue to respect them, follow them and never forget them. I keep talking about JM because I thought we didn’t have enough of him. I thought we made a blunder by letting him go.
JM is the reason why I started following Chelsea. For me, he was the symbol of Chelsea – both good and bad things. The fact that I want him back here at Chelsea is no secret. I really hope he does come back one day in his long illustrious career!
This is what Sir Alex Ferguson said today: “Jose is an intelligent guy. Each time he speaks to the media, he galvanises his team. He has a tremendous effect on his players. The Chelsea of today have not rediscovered this unshakeable faith, even if they have won the title.”
That’s what I mean. You can’t show that by comparing facts, figures and statistics.
Forza TSO & TFO!
[quote comment="82281"]Its funny how you Chelsea fans mention Mourinho in everything. When will Chelsea come out of his shadow? A manager cant be bigger than the club itself.
Mourinho has already shown his bitterness over Chelsea double… and now he’s won the Treble so tell Chelsea it was a mistake to sack him.
Open your eyes….
http://thechelseablog.org/2010/05/19/sour-grapes-over-chelsea-double//quote
When JM was on our side, most of us loved his comments and statements. When is he on the other side, he can be very annoying because he is not your stereotyped diplomatic manager who prefers saying the ‘right things’. As regards this comment of his, I have no gripes over it. Circumstances keep changing every year and that’s one reason why these are not comparable – I thought he was stating the obvious.
@BC I was only trying to show that Chelsea is, was and will be more than just one person
To set the record straight, i have nothing against “TSO” i do agree that he gave us an identity and he gave us the self belief to be champions, but what i don’t agree with is the fact that after 3 years he still thinks Chelsea are nothing without him, he still downplays our acheivements and says his acheivements were bigger, and the thing that annoys me the most is his hatred towards Carlo, wheather someone likes it or not, Carlo has done what even Jose coundn’t manage and therefore the man deserves credit. He didn’t spend hundreds of millions on players like Jose did, even when given the oppurtunity he didn’t tinker with the squad and kept his faith in players, he is even giving the youngsters a chance to shine (something which would of never happened in 3 decades under Jose).
I do love Jose and that will never change, i have a lot of respect for the person, he’s a great manager, a leader, a motivator and the list goes on, but what i will not tolerate is him hogging the spotlight and not giving credit where its due, and Carlo deserves every bit of credit for this season and for leading chelsea to their “FIRST EVER DOUBLE” …. something even Jose coundn’t manage … KTBFFH
Guys and Gals,
I´m happy for Jose because Jose is forever a Chelsea fan! I know some guys are hurt because he eliminated us, but thats what even Terry would try to do if he were in Inter. So don´t feel jealous about a great guy who is also Chelsea fan in addition to being one of the greatest manager. If he feels Chelsea as his home, then what the fuck is problem with that. i will not say it was a mistake to let him go, its something that happens in football all the time. Some people have opinions as if he should have quit football when he quit Chelsea to show he loves Chelsea. It just shows how fucking retarted these guys are. He will be loved for most of the Chelsea fans, Carlo will have his own space, even for Ranieri there will be some space. But for the buddies who think Jose´s sigining were poor, then there is one answer that DD. Without DD we would never have won anything, and its a BIG FACT!!! Tell me an important game or a final when DD didn´t contribute or score and i´ll give up football.
Between Jose and Carlo – their banter would always be there, just like the respect. Jose is too proud to think less of any of his achievements. He will never admit that he is less successful than anyone. That’s him. Love him or hate him – that’s him. All I’m saying is, Jose has never changed in all these years. He is great when he is our manager, when he’s a rival, he can be very annoying. It would be sad on our part to expect Jose to give us any credit for our achievements. As we all know, JM can be many things – humble is certainly not one of them. There will be some other manager at Chelsea one day who would win the treble for us and Jose would still only reluctantly admit that it is a bigger achievement. That’s part of the whole package that makes Jose.
Wrto Carlo not spending hundreds of millions, it’s fair to say he didn’t have to.
Forza Ruud, Gianluca, Claudio, Jose, Avram, Guus and Carlo who all have played a massive part in what Chelsea is today
[quote comment="82291"]But for the buddies who think Jose´s sigining were poor, then there is one answer that DD. Without DD we would never have won anything, and its a BIG FACT!!! Tell me an important game or a final when DD didn´t contribute or score and i´ll give up football.[/quote]
Plus this midfielder called Michael Essien and this left back called Ashley Cole (I loved it because Jose robbed Wenger with the deal just like he did with Ibra-Eto deal).
@BC, exactly!
Isit me or am i being taken for a spoon here ?? Did i ever say i hate Mourinho and he should quit football the minute he left chelsea ?? Did i say he should be constantly sayin how chelsea are amazing and how much of a boner he gets thinking about the blues ?? Did i say his player dealings were wrong and he always bought the wrong type of players or flops ?? What i did say is the man is a prima donna, he can’t stomach anyone else’s achievements beyond his own. He’s a master is playing mind games and psyching out the opponent, he plays his cards wisely, he’s the same man who once said that Ronaldo is an un-educated fool and now that he is about to coach Real, he says Ronaldo is Ronaldo a great player who will always get you goals when you need them.
Jose knows exactly how to butter people up and make them follow him blindfolded, the man left us 3 years ago and most of us still argue over him on the minutest of things. The man is a master of mind games, someone who knows how to get the best out of his players, he has no comparison, even the likes of SAF coudn’t handle him, he’s a great manager but also a master manipulator who knows when and what to say to make sure the spot light keeps shining on him all the time.
What Jose Mourinho isn’t, is a humble person able to give credit where its due, for me he’s a selfish person who wants to win at any cost, and sometimes thats exactly where the line needs to be drawn. I agree he’s a winner and he knows how to get results, but at the same time he creates an atmosphere of hatred and venom, thats what i don’t like. The games can be won, results can be acheived, trophies can be lifted, in a more subtle way, The Carlo Ancelotti way, he plays good attacking football, he commands his troops, he wins trophies, but at the same time the guy is humble and a delight to come across.
That’s the only thing ive been trying to say so far, ive not said Jose should die or quit football and suck up to us 24/7, what i said was you can be a winner but at the same time be gracious is defeat, something Jose will never be, that’s what makes Jose, Jose. Also before someone jumps the gun and starts mis-reading my words, Ive met Jose Mourinho at my work place, ive had a 10 min chat with the guy, this was a few weeks after he took the Inter job, and the guy is anything but down to earth and friendly (well that’s how he comes across anyway) but despite all that I do agree and will always do, that he is the special one and he will be in our hearts forever, but Carlo is our present manager and we need to show him our loyalties and not jump on the Jose bandwagon all the time. Peace …. KTBFFH!!!
Take it easy, people! All’s well . . . we are the champions of England, we’re the double champions, the era of Chelsea domination has begun . . all’s well. This is a time to rejoice! Peace out!
[quote comment="82293"]Forza Ruud, Gianluca, Claudio, Jose, Avram, Guus and Carlo who all have played a massive part in what Chelsea is today[/quote]
One of the best comments ever . . .
TSO is going to madrid. im not sure if i can support a team with ronaldo, even with jose as manager
@Jaz,
Well nobody disagreed that Carlo is one of the greatest managers we´d ever have. But someone up there started drawing the lines and comparing their achievements and tried to ruin the party of an old friend´s victory. You tell me Jaz, what do you do when your friend wins something? Do you start comparing him with others who could have done that in a better way? Most of us consider Jose is a part of our family and we just want to say him congrats. thats all. We all trust Carlo and i´m damn sure he will take us to new heights next season.
And most of your allegation against Jose are false. He has never started the verbal war with others himself. What he does is he replies if someone tries to get on his back. And he replies good and to the point. People don´t like it, but he tells the truth. Everyone knows Ronaldo is an uneducated fool. Now Jose will either educate him and make him perfect from all angles or he´d kick him out of the squad, just like he did to Balotteli in the middle of the season! Its that simple.
the only problem about Jose´s comments is that people give too much emphasis to what he says and they completely forget the comments of the one´s who actually kick-started the verbal war.
Very good comments overall.
Even though being a staunch Chelsea supporter, I never liked our style of play under JM. I never used to get to see all the matches but when I could afford one Chelsea made me snore once they got their solitary goal. May be, I was not tactically astute enough to understand what it meant to kill the game by controlling it through dominant possession still being the least creative. I cannot say I always liked Jose’s demeanour (‘Wenger is a voyeur’ to name one) but was simply stunned by the man’s knack to play with the media. May be, I never thought about how he was shielding his players from the media. Infact if JM was still our manager the JT saga would never have hit even the papers. The 2 consecutive league triumphs were a joy to behold. So, I thought ‘to hell with negativity’. The next year’s loss made me apprehensive and perplexed as to thinking ’2 big signings and still unable to repeat success’. May be, the sheer easiness with which we had won in the preceding seasons led me to undervalue how arduous it is to win the league.
I think once he went, he took the players determination with him. We were never the Chelsea that defended for their life, that cameback to turn the goal deficit once down. It returned only under Guus regime. And steadily finding back its righteous place. Carlo seems to have got what it takes to make a team look lovable and attractive and still be able to win things. And long may it continue. If only he could avoid players pressing the ‘Power Off’ button in some games. It is easier to digest if we fight & still lose but in some games we were comprehensively beaten or drawn.
Back to Jose. For me, now he is the best tactical manager ever. And DanaBlue, Jose has great potential to find players that can play as a team (Don’t let yourself be fooled by that idiot Scott in the ROM blog). Look at his signings at Inter. Ranieri might be better but it doesn’t mean Jose falls short. Jose will not find you Kaka but he can make Lamps nothing less than Kaka. But does he groom youngsters? May be, he never had the chance in Benfica, Leria, Porto, Chelsea, Inter. Is he a long term manager? May be, he was never given an opportunity to show at Chelsea.
You guessed it, this is how bewildered I am by Jose. All my ‘May be’ statements are the reasons why blues love him and the preceding statements imply skepticism by some. But one thing is for sure the man loves Chelsea. I don’t buy the idea that his love might fly him back to Chelsea someday. I wish him luck. But I can’t console myself like others, if Chelsea gets beaten by him and say its only JM. My love for Chelsea outweighs my adoration for JM.
At present I am more than happy with Carlo, I believe in him & support him & count on him to sail through the transition period with ease. Hail Carlo!!
The stunning fact is that Jose won against the champions of Russia, Ukraine, England, Spain and Germany in the single competition! This was the toughest tie ever in CL i think.
I hope JM bitchslaps CR7 !
[quote comment="82303"]The stunning fact is that Jose won against the champions of Russia, Ukraine, England, Spain and Germany in the single competition! This was the toughest tie ever in CL i think.[/quote]
I think he has a bit of luck also . Think about Kaluo foul by Walter Samuel , Offside goal by Militio and penalty of Alves and a penalty for hand ball by Maicon in final. Nevertheless a great achievement .. we need that extra bit of luck in case we have to win .
Even before the season has started , here another one from fergie..
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2557/news/2010/05/23/1938287/manchester-united-boss-sir-alex-ferguson-insists-jose
Some Transfer News – Chelsea in for Liverpool duo
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1280690/Chelsea-eye-double-Blues-ready-bid-Liverpool-duo-Yossi-Benayoun-Javier-Mascherano.html
[quote comment="82303"]The stunning fact is that Jose won against the champions of Russia, Ukraine, England, Spain and Germany in the single competition! This was the toughest tie ever in CL i think.[/quote]
Good one! And Jose said that he cried after sending us out of CL this season!
JM wants DD, lamps, ashley, gerrard n torres at real madrid…
Let’s see how many of u still consider him “PART OF THE FAMILY”, if he manages to snatch either one of Lamps, Ashley, Didi or Essien!!
To put it simply, JM will always be in our heart, but don’t for a second think the man won’t step on our hopes to further his own resume. That’s business and that’s exactly how the man thinks, from a tactical business point of view, not emotions because they don’t get you anywhere in football.
Well, there were rumours after that Cheryl case that Ashley would be leaving even before Jose decided to leave RM. As for DD he said it himself that he is no more that fit like he used to be earlier. So it might be the best time to earn some cash through him. Regarding the rest, i don´t think Roman will even allow anybody to touch those players.
We want to build a new younger team full of passion which can go another 8 years and shake the world. I think its time for us now to make some changes. We could let DD go if we could get Torres. We could let Bosingwa and Ferrera go if we could get Maicon. In the midfield we could let Ballack go if we get Mascherano! think about it guys! Jose wants to build a team that lasts 2 years, we want to build a team that lasts 8 years. We could do a good business and a really profitable one and build a new team in the image of Carlo with these crucial transfers!
Ghosts of JM will continue to exist until his top signing continue to deliver us success. Now they´ve grown old and i think its best time to let them good. It serves the interest of both!
Ghosts of JM will continue to exist until his top signing continue to deliver us success. Now they´ve grown old and i think its best time to let them go. It serves the interest of both! We could develop a good relationship with RM and get some young promising players in exchange! Coz thats exactly what RM don´t want (bring up the players), and what all the blues want!
guys i love jose.. but its claro time geez…. the man is not out coach… we dont have to support him where he goes…. fuck!!
Diego… of juve might be free…. he is similar to kaka…. for all those who want kaka
i agree wid u bluegenes.. we shud let drogba, ballack, deco, bosingwa and belletti go… we can get hamsik, higuain, aguero.. we have essien so we dont need macherano as he gives away free-kicks easily and we are poor at defending set-pieces… we can get a defender or 2..
[quote comment="82317"]guys i love jose.. but its claro time geez…. the man is not out coach… we dont have to support him where he goes…. fuck!!
Diego… of juve might be free…. he is similar to kaka…. for all those who want kaka[/quote]
Yeah he is a good player and his creative. He might just be the one to unluck defences when we need it. I hope we get him
read this guys….. i agree with a lot of these views.
all depends on the direction carlo wants to move in (i cant predict what he will do because i have no crystal ball…lol)
hopes in:
bastian or yaya… di Rossi might be impossible
Higuain i see him as a long term replacement for drogba
Aguero (push either of them right)
* i bet lot of u guys didnt remembered anything about Rajkovic LB/CB serbian…. at fc twente with stoch
but as the article suggest it all depends on the formation carlo wants to play amongst other things.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2871/special/2010/05/24/1939875/goalcom-summer-shopping-who-should-chelsea-buy
I think Jose Mourinho has been great for football. I can’t wait to see who is going to win La Liga if he does go to Real Madrid. cheers!!
[quote comment="82322"]I think Jose Mourinho has been great for football. I can’t wait to see who is going to win La Liga if he does go to Real Madrid. cheers!![/quote]
thats exactly what im talking about… so called chelsea fans following him all over the world… follow fucking Carlo man… follow the assistant manager…!!
as i said good luck to him.. but it stops there….
answer which players u want to come in man…. send me a list of players and why u would want them here… thats ur home work
@Denver blue
As Chelsea fans you may not want to follow Jose. As football fan and as ‘individual’, one can follow Jose, Fergie or even Rafa. That’s my two pence.
CHELSEA WIN COPA AMSTERDAM
Together with the FA YOUTH CUP the Academy has done the double as well
http://www.cfcnet.co.uk/2010/05/24/chelsea-win-copa-amsterdam/
Looking good for the future
[quote comment="82324"]@Denver blue
As Chelsea fans you may not want to follow Jose. As football fan and as ‘individual’, one can follow Jose, Fergie or even Rafa. That’s my two pence.[/quote]
bro my problem.. is that everyone is always try to compare us .. what if we had jose and so on.. U KNOW what im talking about.. its just getting annoying man… as i said i respect them man all the best to him… but lets focus on chelsea, ad stop over shadowing our team
Jose is a past…Carlo is the present and Chelsea is forever! Everything would be fine if you guys can remember this simply mantra!
damn guys im looking at Argentina play and OMG.. I need at least 2 of them players…. they have such goo technique and speed!!
—————-Cech————–
Ivano—-terry—-alex—–A.cole
—Lamps—-Essien—–Bastian—–
—Aguero—Drogba—-Malouda—–
SUB:Bosingwa,Bruma,Carvalho,Mikel,Zhirkov,Lukaku,Kalou,Sturridge.
[quote comment="82314"]Well, there were rumours after that Cheryl case that Ashley would be leaving even before Jose decided to leave RM. As for DD he said it himself that he is no more that fit like he used to be earlier. So it might be the best time to earn some cash through him. Regarding the rest, i don´t think Roman will even allow anybody to touch those players.
We want to build a new younger team full of passion which can go another 8 years and shake the world. I think its time for us now to make some changes. We could let DD go if we could get Torres. We could let Bosingwa and Ferrera go if we could get Maicon. In the midfield we could let Ballack go if we get Mascherano! think about it guys! Jose wants to build a team that lasts 2 years, we want to build a team that lasts 8 years. We could do a good business and a really profitable one and build a new team in the image of Carlo with these crucial transfers![/quote]
[quote comment="82314"]Well, there were rumours after that Cheryl case that Ashley would be leaving even before Jose decided to leave RM. As for DD he said it himself that he is no more that fit like he used to be earlier. So it might be the best time to earn some cash through him. Regarding the rest, i don´t think Roman will even allow anybody to touch those players.
We want to build a new younger team full of passion which can go another 8 years and shake the world. I think its time for us now to make some changes. We could let DD go if we could get Torres. We could let Bosingwa and Ferrera go if we could get Maicon. In the midfield we could let Ballack go if we get Mascherano! think about it guys! Jose wants to build a team that lasts 2 years, we want to build a team that lasts 8 years. We could do a good business and a really profitable one and build a new team in the image of Carlo with these crucial transfers![/quote]
no way dd should go this player scored 37 goals for you this season scored in big games he wants to stay at chelsea he wants to win ucl which he can he is enjoying playing drogba should retire at the bridge
drogba can become true legend if he continues to playing like this season for us that is chelsea
@heyJose,
I know he´s been prolific for us until now. But i think its time to bid him farewell and earn some cash! This could have two positive effects:
1) It would force team to play more solid in big games. Until now we have been looking at DD´s face in important games, and when DD was shut out, we´ve failed terribly. eg. are CL games and against Man City. Letting him go would have a Inter-like effect when they let Ibra go.
2) Its really true that we need to get off JM ghost at SB. Until we have Jose´s key players in our squad, we may never win against his team when we face him in future. COz jose knows them very well than they themselves do about them, and the second thing is that emotional part that comes to play when we face him. We all know its still mostly JOse´s team, and that gives us slighlty psychological disadvantage in big games, specially when we lose. DD still has more affection for Jose, Lampsy seems to have got over it, and Essien never really talked big abt Jose. So in this view point we could let DD go as well.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/05/22/1937076/yaya-toure-has-almost-made-up-his-mind-to-leave-barcelona
Karim Benezema to chelsea – 28 MM deal .
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/25/chelsea-express-interest-in-making-move-for-28m-rated-real-madrid-man-ancelotti-lines-up-benzema-bid/
Denver I already told you who I want to come to Stamford Bridge. That is Fernando Torres. Pay Fernando Torres decent wages to encourage him to come to Stamford Bridge. But please don’t buy Yaya Toure as I think Jon Obi Mikel is a better player. And if Yaya Toure does come to Chelsea fc, I can’t see how he is going to add another dimension to our play. We could might as well get another similar player on the cheap. cheers!!
[quote comment="82339"]Karim Benezema to chelsea – 28 MM deal .
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/05/25/chelsea-express-interest-in-making-move-for-28m-rated-real-madrid-man-ancelotti-lines-up-benzema-bid//quote
fuck wrong player… his name is HIGUAIN!!!… plus i dont thgink MADRID will want to sell already
[quote comment="82340"]Denver I already told you who I want to come to Stamford Bridge. That is Fernando Torres. Pay Fernando Torres decent wages to encourage him to come to Stamford Bridge. But please don’t buy Yaya Toure as I think Jon Obi Mikel is a better player. And if Yaya Toure does come to Chelsea fc, I can’t see how he is going to add another dimension to our play. We could might as well get another similar player on the cheap. cheers!![/quote]
yaya is much better he can attack better and all these things….
Denverblue I would go with Karim Benzema if we can’t get Fernando Torres. He is the next best thing. I seen him play a couple of times and I’ve seen an episode of the UEFA Champions League magazine programme showing Karim Benzema growing up and what kind of a talent he is. So he would be the next best choice instead of buying Kun Augero. cheers!!
I just wanna make it clear to everybody here that I love TSO as much as most True Blues, but I also want to illustrate by bringing the below article in full that TSO wasn’t that special when it came to CL and Chelsea
” Why Jose wasn’t special enough for Euro glory at Chelsea”
May 25 2010 By Dan Levene, Fulham & Hammersmith Chronicle
“HE’S done it with Porto & now Inter. But why, with unlimited funds & more than enough time, couldn’t Jose Mourinho win the Champions League with Chelsea?
Many claim that he wasn’t given enough time. But in truth, Mourinho spent longer at Chelsea than he did at either Porto or Inter – and arguably both of those latter teams needed to b taken much further than the extremely promising side he inherited from Claudio Ranieri.
The other argument goes that there was too much interference from Roman Abramovich in the running of the team; that if Mourinho had had his own way, the Big Eared Cup would have come to Stamford Bridge. But can you honestly see the Special One allowing any paymaster to pick his first XI for him?
No, there are two reasons why Jose’s European adventures with the Blues were ultimately foiled with the Blues, and they may surprise you…
1. Jose feared Rafa Benitez
There were a mammoth six Champions League meetings with Rafa’s Reds in just three seasons. In those nine and a half hours of football (one of the six went to extra time), Chelsea scored just one goal.
Mourinho’s relationship with Benitez was odd because, for the most part, he had the Spaniard well-covered. Of the seven league games during his tenure, Chelsea won the first five – with a goal difference of 9-1.
Why the disparity? The simple fact is that Mourinho played two different teams. In the league, Chelsea were expansive and creative (notably in the 4-1 win at Anfield – still Didier Drogba’s finest hour and a half with Chelsea). They often played with width, and stifled Liverpool’s game.
However, in the Champions League Mourinho liked to play narrow. Often in those games Arjen Robben, Damien Duff or Joe Cole (so often Liverpool’s tormentor in the league, and the scorer of that one European goal against the Reds) were absent.
Liverpool were no better than the second-rate also-rans they have always been under Benitez, but Mouronho gave them the sort of respect that would usually be reserved for Europe’s great clubs. Unusually for the man, he swallowed the hype and lived in fear of the Kop.
Its notable that it was Avram Grant, a man derided by many Chelsea fans as a non-manager and merely a boardroom stooge, who steered Chelsea to their only Champions League win over Liverpool.
Miserable away days
Mourinho’s Chelsea army went on the march in the Champions League 16 times during his reign.
People remember are all too ready to recall the highs, but those lows slip easily from the memory. I was there for all but one of those trips, and time after time I found myself coming home with a bag full of duty frees and little else. At one stage it was 13 months without a successful stamp in the passport.
Jose managed just five away wins with Chelsea in the Champions League against, in sequence: PSG, CSKA Moscow, Anderlecht, Levski Sofia and Valencia.
OK, they weren’t all whipping boys – the last of those victories, in the imposing Mestalla was particularly memorable as Valencia’s first ever defeat there in UEFA competition. But three of those were ‘pot 4′ group stage teams – the very weakest in the competition.
And look at some of the teams he slipped up against: Porto (twice – he really should have known better), an a well below-par Bayern Munich (having been running away with the game with ten minutes to play).
So often Jose was prepared to play a game of defensive attrition – parking the bus, plane, or whatever in front of the goal – and hope for a draw. He would sit on a lead or a point, and was so often taken for a mug by inferior teams with a bit more desire on the night. Every one of his seven away defeats was by the odd goal.
Mourinho told the press after winning the Champions League for a second time on Saturday night: “I will go back to England one day.” If that is the case, these are the two lessons he must learn.”
well even Guus won over Liverpool. Grant won because he is a lucky man, Guus won because he told the players to score as much as they can without even thinking of defence. We were lucky to win against Liverpool and everyone knows that.
The above article is nicely made story, which disregarded lots of things going on during that time. And when he presented one fact, he ignored the reason why it happened to highlight his point. So i give a bullshit to it. Liverpool played very well in CL because Rafa was new in England as well, and that was the only thing he could´ve delivered. All they cared in EPL was finish fourth. Everybody knows how they performed in league not only against Chelsea but against other teams as well. Chelsea scored 96 points in the league, but they came fourth with some 60 points and CL victory. So there are many factors to be considered before coming to a conclusion.
and if you guys remember the word Quadraple came very often when there were news about chelsea. We were fighting on four fronts and it took a lots of energy from our players. Next season tell players to forget EPL top position and other cups and concentrate only on CL, then i´m sure we´d win it. But thats something we´ll not do, coz we are the champions who want to win everything.
@BlueGenes
“…..nicely made story, which disregarded lots of things going on during that time. And when he presented one fact, he ignored the reason why it happened to highlight his point. ”
Please elaborate, what exactly has been disregarded and ignored?
“Liverpool played very well in CL because Rafa was new in England as well, and that was the only thing he could´ve delivered. All they cared in EPL was finish fourth.”
The fact that Rafa was new to England doesn’t logically equals good football. And knowing how hungry Liverpool has been for years to win the EPL, makes your statement that 4th is acceptable, as you put it bullshit.
“So there are many factors to be considered before coming to a conclusion.”
Which factors have you been considering?
You should have never brought this thing up. It will only deeepen the scares of the past.
@ Firstly the writer forgot a player called Schevchenko, who Mourinho never wanted. Secondly he forgot a sporting director called Avram Grant who wouldn´t let Jose work in peace. Instead that guy tried everything to poison the ear of Scheva, Roman and spoil the training sessions of Jose. Jose talked a lot that if he was to continue then Grant and that youth trainer (forgot his name) should be fired. And there were also things coming out that Scheva was trying to play a gaffer. Roman wanted CL, Roman wanted Scheva, and Roman wanted Barca-style; on the other hand you have guys like grant who were adding gas to the fire. Think such a thing happens to your workplace, how would you feel, and how would you perform? besides Jose even complained that he was not having his say over transfers. So there was unlimited funds for players Roman wanted, not Jose.
@secondly, CL group stages are played at the other half of the season, where you can already tell who would end up in top four, and who is likely to finish as leaders. We were already miles ahead of Liverpool in the league table when we faced them in Quarter-finals and semi-finals. So these guys knew their fate by the time and they could take the league much lightly than we could. I don´t keep the stats but i have the memory of the environment when the game took place and what things were being said. If you guys remember Liverpool even got a chance to play CL despite finishing 5th in the table coz they won the CL title the year earlier. Remember that? So CL won by a team who finished 5th shows their league ambitions clearly.
i don´t want to start a fight, but if you clear your memories a bit, then i´m sure you can remember what we went through at that time. At Inter Jose had the best time in his career, although not in the Italy. Thats the reason he won the historic treble there, because he was allowed to do what he wanted to do. At Chelsea, the first season was his season. After that i don´t know.
Sorry BlueGenes, but your argumentation just doesn’t make sense. The gossip/allegations regarding Scheva and Avram contradicts the fact that we did rather well in the EPL. And I’m sure Jose is such a strong character that he would not let himself get dragged aroung the arena. Jose is always in full control of any team he puts on the pitch.
Secondly the fact that you claim Liverpool just let the EPL slip away still doesn’t explain Jose’s shortfall in the CL in charge of Chelsea.
Lastly I do not wanna pick a fight either, but neither do I want to be restricted in what I can and cannot say when it concerns TSO.
[quote comment="82346"]and if you guys remember the word Quadraple came very often when there were news about chelsea. We were fighting on four fronts and it took a lots of energy from our players. Next season tell players to forget EPL top position and other cups and concentrate only on CL, then i´m sure we´d win it. But thats something we´ll not do, coz we are the champions who want to win everything.[/quote]
i think if we tell them to have fun!! EPL comes first they will do better in the CL…. our mentality in big games it seems is to over concentrate at times… plus CL have a great deal of luck to it guys… in order to win Cl we have to do what BARCA is doing.. and i dont see us doing that….
basically what im saying .. after i saw what i saw in the faithful match against barca last year…. I just dont trust that competition.
in transfer windows chelsea is always the slowest to react…. miss out on good deal…. history has proved that when a team needs a good play.. go to MADRID for a rejected one…. eg. MAKA, Snijder,
thats why i say go to madrid… get Higuain, VDV, if we cant get BASTIAN. if they come for a.cole and we cant resist get Marcelo in the deal… and look to try and sign HIGUAIN… simple. I would not sell lampard to them….. even though cash would be good for a player of that again… fact if even if lamps goes…. we have to use to opportunity geta more skilled,creative Mid fielder. (we could go to war for Snijder)
We couldn’t do well in CL because we were sent out undeservedly by some ghost goals, by some norwegian wankers or by a blatant refusal to give us justice (Kalou’s clear penalty at San Siro to quote a latest example during the game. The only thing which we did ourself to get out of the CL was that ill-fated slip of Terry which i want to forget but can’t!
And guys let’s not forget that Jose is the past…i won’t be his devotee unless he comes back to us and deliver back-to-back CL trophies!
lol Karma!! good one
Bluegenes, I am not being critical but I too, am not convinced with your speculations. Why can’t you accept it, Jose was beaten by Benitez twice in CL a competition far less coveted by Liverpool than the PL, and in stark contrast to Chelsea. That doesn’t mean Benitez is better than Jose, does it?
Personally, I rate Benitez as a coach obviously not at the same level as Jose, Rednose, Carlo. I feel his style of managing has slight resemblance to Jose’s. Jose plays his team in a cautious way in crunch matches, unlike Benitez who always plays cautious. ‘Don’t let goals in, if you can’t score one’ mode of play is what I am referring to. Liverpool were all about hardwork, grit, an organized team. They relied much on counter attacks, played with 2 holding midfielders Alonso & Finnan then & Lucas & Mascherano now. Apparently, Liverpool were defensively alike to Chelsea but inferior attacking-wise.
Jose in CL was different to Jose in PL as Dan Levene points out. Thats because all matches in CL are crunch matches, the underdogs in CL are not PL mid/lower table teams but champions of Russia, Holland, etc. Good teams like Barca came for the kill trying to attack Chelsea. This actually played into the hands of Jose who knew his defense was water-tight and won’t let in goals at the same time letting defense turn into a good counter attack once the ball was lost by them. Now, came Benitez into the scene, with more or less the same tactics. The games against Liverpool ended mostly in the midfield with the odd goal and ……ahem! the ghost goal. The conservative ideas did make us pay although the winners could have been decided by the toss of a coin.
Actually this, according to me, also explains why Jose is more successful in CL with low profile teams like Porto & Inter (relatively). Good teams underestimate Jose’s Porto/Inter & go for all-out attack and are caught off-guard at the back. He likes to get underestimated. Moreover, I feel Jose’s/ Benitez’s style of play in the CL is the most yielding one. Look at what Jose or Benitez have managed in the CL (Please ignore this year for once, for the sake of your stomach which could be aching due to indefinite loud laugh).
Yuck!! Enough of this Jose talk. I think 20 years from now, Chelsea might win PL 15 times, CL 10 times under Carlo and then too someone would come over to comment : “You know what, had Jose still been our manager we might have added 10 more trophies to our cabinet”.
@Chelsito,
well dana came up with an article full of speculations why jose failed, I replied her on the basis of what Jose said. I totally accepted in my coment that Jose was beaten by Liverpool twice, and i also gave a reason why. Like i said they prepared well for CL more than for league. But thanks that your further comments actually supported my idea.
@Denver and Karma,
I like your viewpoint.
@Dana,
What you have is a speculation, what i have is a speculation. But like jose said, there is no term as nearly won in football, everyone agrees that we lost during his time. I give up on that. But he wins CL in his second year at Porto, he wins a treble in his second year at Inter (now don´t tell me Inter is a underdog, they´ve just won their 5th consecutive scudetto). He gets unlimited fund in Chelsea and still he complained a lot about interference at that time, it simply doesn´t make sense. Someone must have tried to mess things up. Fortunately i was not the only one who felt that way, and there were thousands of articles that showed up in those times to support that idea.
@BlueGenes, just for your information DanaBlue is not a she but a he from Denmark.
@ Dana,
oh, i´m sorry for that! In Germany its a girls name, sorry for the mix up!
[quote comment="82356"]@Chelsito,
well dana came up with an article full of speculations why jose failed, I replied her on the basis of what Jose said. I totally accepted in my coment that Jose was beaten by Liverpool twice, and i also gave a reason why. Like i said they prepared well for CL more than for league. But thanks that your further comments actually supported my idea.
[/quote]
By ‘Jose was beaten by Benitez’, I mean that Chelsea was beaten by Liverpool in a closed footballing system i.e no other external factors were responsible for Jose getting beaten other than for purely footballing reasons like tactics or football luck. Why do you want to find excuses like Roman decided the playing 11 (pure speculation). Given a chance to manage the Chelsea playing 11 against the vastly inferior Liverpool team, any Manager would have bitten your hand off. Now, obviously Roman doesn’t decide the tactics during the match, right? or else we could have seen Barca-esque football ;) And if at all, there was any interference, I believe a man like Jose would have called curtains and kicked away the hot seat as he did at Benfica.
@Chelsito,
thats what he did. He left on “mutual consesus” in the middle of the season. Jose didn´t want to leave, but he hated more the idea of working as a puppet.
Guys watch jose cry:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2010/05/26/1943591/video-inter-coach-jose-mourinho-cries-on-marco-materazzis
[quote comment="82353"]We couldn’t do well in CL because we were sent out undeservedly by some ghost goals, by some norwegian wankers or by a blatant refusal to give us justice (Kalou’s clear penalty at San Siro to quote a latest example during the game. The only thing which we did ourself to get out of the CL was that ill-fated slip of Terry which i want to forget but can’t!
And guys let’s not forget that Jose is the past…i won’t be his devotee unless he comes back to us and deliver back-to-back CL trophies![/quote]
Thank you Karma… been reading all the debate but your post just summed it up quite nicely… lets move on.
Back to the memory lane for the old timers… (gosh i’m feeling my age right now!)
Something to share… I was watching ChelseaTV and they were showing the great wins of Chelsea 2001/02 season and it brought back lots of wonderful memory. The highlights were mainly about Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink partnership with Eidur Gudjohnsen. I must say, Jimmy’s lobs and curling shots were second to none and he did all that in one season… I would even dare to compare his finishing with Torres! Back then, we’ve got Zola who’s doing all the magic and weaving cutting opponents to sizes, something we were lack of now. Another legend, Eidur Gudjohnsen’s record of one to one with keeper was at 82% and he scored 23 goals in 36 games (all competition 01/02). Remember them; Boudewijn Zenden, Jesper Grønkjær & Mikael Forssell? For some reason, Forsell did reminds me of Kalou at the start, but of course the latter showed improvements in his developments this season whereas Forsell just disappeared into thin air. The other thing I notice was that the atmosphere back then were very very rowdy during derbies… maybe things got civilized but boy I do miss those days.
i cant agree more with Chelsito.
I would have sacked JM also if i was Abramovich.
We were playing such an unattractive football after so much of investment.
And looking at Inter this year when they were playing with us, i thought Chelsea under Maurinho is more attractive even though i do think Inter players ball control and technique are better than Chelsea players overall.
Forget Jose… He can bring us titles but not more fans.
Carlo if he could avoid some lackslustre performance such as against Inter would bring us more fans and more success.
I would love to see how RM plays under JM after leading 1-0. Stop attacking and pass the ball in between them also?
EPL’s top 4 Teams are particularly weak this season in the CL, and top teams get shaky results almost every weekends. Chelsea kept Drogba but United sold Ronaldo, that was the difference. and a aging CFC team had contributed to the shaky results.
Doing the Double is some achievement but it was unbearable to watch us hopelessly losing to Mourinho’s Inter both away and Home, it took away smiles on my face.
I am so happy when seeing United fans but to lose to Inter the way we did was A FKING DISGRACE!
JOSE is definitely much much better!
chelsea! you’re the best club ever! :D
chelsea
[quote comment="82398"]chelsea! you’re the best club ever! :D
chelsea[/quote]
you are so right my friend