FIFA witch-hunts Chelsea | This too will pass . . .
I’ve always believed in this ‘us vs them’ theory. Some even say that I bought this theory from Jose Mourinho. May be they’re right but what matters now is if Jose Mourinho was correct. Season after season, we continue to be reminded of why the football authorities and the powers that be hate Chelsea FC. Honestly I didn’t see it coming. This has come as a shock, from nowhere. FIFA has slapped a two-transfer-window ban on Chelsea for an alleged misconduct in Gael kakuta’s transfer.
Before we go any further, let’s try to understand this better:
1. The ban applies for two transfer windows. It’s not two seasons as some have understood it. So, Chelsea can’t buy in the Jan 2010 and May-Aug 2010. The next purchase can be made only in Jan 2011.
2. We are prohibited from ‘signing new players’. I’d conveniently assume that we are allowed to get players on loan. I’m bloody sure that we are allowed to get players on loan, which should be a welcome relief.
3. Chelsea FC will appeal this decision as strongly as possible. I have a feeling that the intensity of the ban could be reduced after our subsequent appeals.
4. I’d say, this is certainly a lot better than docking of points.
Now, I don’t know what happened in the Kakuta transfer. I don’t know if Chelsea are guilty or not. Irregularities in transfers is something that’s common in football but that’s not an excuse to commit an offence. To give a step-motherly treatment to a certain club and allowing the pioneers to go scot-free is unfair. In Phil McNulty’s words, “If Fifa actually believes Chelsea are the only club guilty of this particular offence in world football, then naivety is being stretched to its furthest point”.
Some rival fans say that we deserved it because we punished Mutu. That’s a childish and silly comment. Mutu made a mistake and he is punished. And if anyone else made the same mistake, they should be treated the same way. That’s what I’m saying here too. If Chelsea is guilty, punish them. Also punish all those big G-14 clubs that pioneered these malpractices and also mastered them. Ah, that brings me to the G-14 discussion. I know this is a FIFA decision but still, do you think such a damning thing would have happened to a G-14 club? How much lobbying would have happened even before the decision was made?
I’m sure Chelsea’s legal department and the battery of lawyers would be working overtime. I’m sure they’ll find a way out. FIFA’s ruling cannot supersede the laws of the European Union. FIFA is just a sports body while European Union is . . well European Union. The ban is in effect an issue of constraint of trade. FIFA can only regulate from a sports point of view, they cannot write a new law or discard a law of the land.
Let’s put this in perspective. I don’t think we’ll be active in the Jan 2010 window anyways. May-Aug 2010 could be a blow. I must say that we’ve got the players to see us through this season. We were done with our transfer activity weeks before the window closed. The current squad is complete and is one which Ancelotti is happy with. If we are not able to buy players in May-Aug 2010, it’s still not a problem. We can get players on loan with an option to buy after 6 months, which would be the Jan 2011 window. Not bad, isn’t? After all, that’s what we did for Anelka. We bought him on loan and quickly converted that into a purchase. Where there’s a law, there’s a loophole. Therefore people, worry not. It will all be fine. The lawyers will have to earn their fees, either on appeal or on finding creative ways to get players on board during the ban. Wouldn’t it be sweet if Kakuta joins the first team after the ban and plays a crucial role in our quadruple this season?
Just when everything seemed to have fallen in place, just when we seemed to settle down, just when we found our rhythm, just when we started to instill fear in the rivals again, this setback is upon us. In a way, this would make the team stronger. The famous siege mentality that TSO brought in, will have to make a reappearance in such times. The Moscow defeat made us stronger. The Ovrebo match made us even stronger. And now, this would strengthen Chelsea rather than weakening it.
So, just chill. We’ll find a way out. If we don’t, Chelsea will hit them hard like a wounded animal. Be afraid, be very afraid!
United fans respond to Rio’s drug ban and say the FA hates us. We have a term ABU for the press writing something against United. When Platini made comments talking about United buying 16 year olds, United fans screamed that the UEFA hates United. When Blatter made comments to the effect of United treating Ronaldo as a slave Reds fans said FIFA hates United
UEFA ban Eduardo for diving, and Arsenal fans say UEFA hate Arsenal.
Now FIFA hates Chelsea.
You see where this is going? This whole “us v them” thing is a bit over-rated. It’s useful to fire up a dressing room before a match. But in terms of day-to-day commentary, it has very little utility value other than encourage hot-headed readers to use this to perpetrate myths.
Perhaps there could be a case made for UEFA and FIFA (Platini, and Blatter) having a thing for English clubs. But other than that, I think every top English club will have a tale of woe of it’s own.
I agree with you, BC, about this strengthening the dressing room and the current squad, but I’m not sure about the whole UEFA hates us thing… If this goes on more often, I’m sure Chelsea lawyers will be pointing the finger and bringing it to light. If loans are also forbidden, I must say we’ll be in trouble, as we’ll have an aging squad and we’ll definitely be missing out on that marquee signing, possibly Ribery, Villa, or Aguero, or any other World Cup heroes that might be the new stars of next summer’s transfer window.
I’m very interested in how all of this turns out!
RR
I agree that the top English clubs do have a story of their own. You may not quite agree with this. But Chelsea FC almost always gets the raw deal. Also, when it comes to United and Arsenal, it’s the players that get impacted and rarely the club. Man Utd as a club needs to do quite a lot to get booked. Whereas, Chelsea as a club (not just the players) always get fined, warned & reprimanded for some reason or the other. Chelsea FC can make a dossier of such things.
The champions league semi final was almost like a fixed match. Of course Chelsea could have finished the match earlier and could have put Ovrebo out of his job. But it was so evident that Barcelona were the favourite sons of UEFA and some people just could not stand Chelsea (they say – everything that’s wrong about football) beat Barcelona (they say – everything that’s right about football) to reach the champions league final. I honestly think Chelsea too could have outclassed Man Utd if they had reached the final (just like Milan set records straight with Liverpool).
Man Utd is widely known as the most hated club. But I fully believe that when we say most hated, that’s among the football fans. As far as the media (referees too?) is concerned, they just adore you. Media just drools over Arsenal and Liverpool. On the other hand, Chelsea is the club media loves to hate and authorities love to hate. Why would they not hate Chelsea? One of the first clubs to be taken over by a foreign billionaire whose way of wealth acquisition is seen with suspicion. Few hundred millions spent on players to send the transfer market into a dizzy. Chelsea did things in a short span that put the whole system to test. The authorities did not like what Chelsea was doing but could hardly do anything about it. So whenever they get an opportunity, they just pounce on it. So I don’t think the ‘us vs them’ feeling is over-rated, as far as Chelsea is concerned. Though no one’s going to admit that, it’s there for you to see. I fully understand if you don’t accept of the Chelsea fan standpoint, because you’re not a Chelsea fan.
[quote comment="77050"]United fans respond to Rio’s drug ban and say the FA hates us. We have a term ABU for the press writing something against United. When Platini made comments talking about United buying 16 year olds, United fans screamed that the UEFA hates United. When Blatter made comments to the effect of United treating Ronaldo as a slave Reds fans said FIFA hates United
UEFA ban Eduardo for diving, and Arsenal fans say UEFA hate Arsenal.
Now FIFA hates Chelsea.
You see where this is going? This whole “us v them” thing is a bit over-rated. It’s useful to fire up a dressing room before a match. But in terms of day-to-day commentary, it has very little utility value other than encourage hot-headed readers to use this to perpetrate myths.
Perhaps there could be a case made for UEFA and FIFA (Platini, and Blatter) having a thing for English clubs. But other than that, I think every top English club will have a tale of woe of it’s own.[/quote]
rio ban, nasty comments from officials, 2 match ban for a guy who needs to work on his diving skills….WTF it’s not in the same league as a 2 transfer window ban and i’m afraid to say that loans might not be allowed cause a loan is a signing
And how can you forget being cheated out of the champions league final by crooked officials
Platini couldn’t shut up about how beautiful barca was all year as well and the press calling chelsea the boring brand of football.
whatever happens, fans stay by chelseafc.
[quote comment="77050"]United fans respond to Rio’s drug ban and say the FA hates us. We have a term ABU for the press writing something against United. When Platini made comments talking about United buying 16 year olds, United fans screamed that the UEFA hates United. When Blatter made comments to the effect of United treating Ronaldo as a slave Reds fans said FIFA hates United
UEFA ban Eduardo for diving, and Arsenal fans say UEFA hate Arsenal.
Now FIFA hates Chelsea.
You see where this is going? This whole “us v them” thing is a bit over-rated. It’s useful to fire up a dressing room before a match. But in terms of day-to-day commentary, it has very little utility value other than encourage hot-headed readers to use this to perpetrate myths.
Perhaps there could be a case made for UEFA and FIFA (Platini, and Blatter) having a thing for English clubs. But other than that, I think every top English club will have a tale of woe of it’s own.[/quote]
and yea, you´re right, FIFA and UeFA hate english clubs. But specially chelsea because we succeeded in short span of time and we are a big threat to their favourite puppies clubs.
platini & blatter are, in many peoples eyes, old school crooks. like all fat-cats, their crooked dealings will be exposed one day. unfortunately tho, they will suffer no such penalties like th ones they’re so eager to dish out. i’d say give em season tickets to the Bridge, old Trafford, Emirates & Anfield and force them to watch th teams they ‘hate’ th most ;
To be honest this isn’t a surprise and it clearly points to the hypocrisy and mismanagement at the top level of football.
Chelsea have clearly rattled the old establishment in football and upset it’s legions of servile media servants and advocates.
Firstly, Chelsea have challenged the financial supremacy of the old order, secondly, they have as their chief a son of the old cold war enemy…..not to be trusted, what a joke! and finally Chelsea have called into question the fairness of last seasons debacle involving Overbo…well everyone outside the Chelsea board did as did the majority of fair minded folk the world over. It seems those who masquerade as lords and masters are trying to use their dislike of Chelsea as a precedent against all, but why such severity at this point? Why didn’t it happen earlier and will United suffer a similar judgement over Pogba? who incidentally was acquired in more or less the same way. Quite rightly we should appeal to the law of the land as there is definitely an unfair and unprecedented restriction being placed on free trade damaging not only Chelsea but those who wish to play for them. If we dig deeper, how can Ronaldo justify setting up a trademark on CR7 when still a United player under contract and yet it was common knowledge in Madrid that he had been tapped up and agreed to sign if given the number seven shirt……..is this not a more serious breach of the rules involving a professional player. Platini seems to have an axe to grind with English football and his hypocrisy has been fully exposed when he called into question the financial state of the game in the premier league and yet failed to make and any judgement or comment on Real Madrid’s stellar spending spree which was effectively funded by the Spanish taxpayer. When Drogba briefly roared at Overbo it was only setting the stage for a far greater battle…………..whatever way you want to look at it, I believe Chelsea hold the higher ground and are better armed than people expect!
[quote comment="77050"]United fans respond to Rio’s drug ban and say the FA hates us. We have a term ABU for the press writing something against United. When Platini made comments talking about United buying 16 year olds, United fans screamed that the UEFA hates United. When Blatter made comments to the effect of United treating Ronaldo as a slave Reds fans said FIFA hates United
UEFA ban Eduardo for diving, and Arsenal fans say UEFA hate Arsenal.
Now FIFA hates Chelsea.
You see where this is going? This whole “us v them” thing is a bit over-rated. It’s useful to fire up a dressing room before a match. But in terms of day-to-day commentary, it has very little utility value other than encourage hot-headed readers to use this to perpetrate myths.
Perhaps there could be a case made for UEFA and FIFA (Platini, and Blatter) having a thing for English clubs. But other than that, I think every top English club will have a tale of woe of it’s own.[/quote]
dude honestly all the big clubs do this its just that chelsea got caught. in the barcelona game in the champs league, i honestly do think that was fixed. platini saw that a rematch between utd and chelsea was imminent, and so he told the ref to do what he could to see that barcelona won. you cant honestly see those penalties and not think something was fishy. maybe the us vs. them is a bit much, but uefa likes their g14 teams, and see the rest as second class. honestly that cant be true. can anyone in the world say that the likes of PSG, borussia dortmund, ajax, psv, porto, are anywhere near as class as chelsea?
Whilst the Chelsea side of me says it’s a stupid decision, the better half is telling me this could really change our landscape as a club. Time to take a new direction for youth, let Mikel step up? I think so.
watching kakuta on youtube… he may just be worth it you know.. the kid’s been showing some serious skill in our reserves!
On the brighter side, when we lift trophies the celebration will be of double excitement because the two-pence worths like FIFA, UEFA, referees (most of them), rival clubs (favoured by tuppences), mancinni (his english sucks), blatter and media will be traumatised in endless pain!
Lets take things possitively, and believe in ourselves. Gold, when past repeatedly through furnace, will shine brighter! Chelsea is the best…..as long as Chelsea lives (and we will forever) every other thing becomes second! They are afraid, very afraid of us and are collectively trying to harm us! Poor d**kheads!
Thank god!
I’ll see some our reserves in action!
This has happened before with other clubs and they were handed a 2 transfer bans…on their appeal it was reduced to 1…
That is exactly what Chelsea is going to do…we really didnt have much plans of signing players in Jan 2010 so even if its a ban it wont matter..
So relax guys..theres nothing to worry…every1 in the footballing world knows how threatening Chelsea can be this year!!..(glimpses of that can already be seen MashAllah!!)…and they just want to unsettle us with a lame ban!…
Lets try keeping a count on what UEFA/ FIFA gift to us in 09/10:
1. Drogba banned for 3 matches (UEFA)
2. Bosingwa banned for 2 matches (UEFA)
3. 2 transfer bans (FIFA)
what ever you do..its really going to be hard to Stop us!…be afraid, be ridiculously afraid!.. :)
Focus Chelsea, this will pass. Everyone hates you, everyone is after you. It is because you are the most feared club in the world, just ignore all of the bs thrown your way and play your game. Once you win all 4 trophies, despite all adversity… you can show the middle finger to the entire world.
BC well said.other fans are outside looking in while its vice versa for us.they’re ignorant & short sighted and also revel in delight of seeing us suffer. Yes, drog abused & bossman insulted overbo but barca too(after the first leg) insulted his abilities by stating he was playing for us,made questionable decisions,unfair and let the hard tackles stand. Bossman just sumed it up in one word ‘thief’. its ludicrous arse/poo/manc had their little fights here & there with fifa/uefa, while ours is a war each season!.We are banned from REGISTERING players which means loan signings too! Do you notice how the report was concluded on the 27th aug but only released this news after the window closed.hopefully this will allow carlo to look into kakuta to see what the fuss is about & discover a gem.blatter and platini were more inclined to to it as he is a french player.P.S. to all arse fans who say ‘if he is young & french then wenger would have got him if he was any good’. . . well he is! Youtube him. ..
Is there anything that the higher footballing authorities will NOT do to bog down Chelsea when they look like making a mark in a season ? I mean, time and again we’ve seen how these big fellas come up with new and sometimes humorously pathetic ideas to make the club suffer. Real sad. But we shall prove to these c*nts what we are capable of by winning the Premier League and the Champions League. Would love nothing more than JT holding that trophy high with all the fellas celebrating victory in front of Platini and his wise-as* company.
KTBFFH !!
@ BC
I’ve been hearing this from other Chlesea fans and now you too that Chelsea were not gonna make any new signings in Jan-10 anyway. Are you sure? I guess one fact being overlooked here is that all Drogba, Essien, John Mikel Obi, Salomon Kalou wont be available for Chelsea during Jan-10 due to the African Cup of Nations. May be Ancelotti would have wanted to fill the gap with a couple of signings.
Yes if loan signings are allowed, may be that is the answer.
Kakuta is banned for 4 months .I wish to see him in the regular team more this season.Is he have to pay 680000p?An 18ys boy? All of the chelsea first team specially Drogba and essien admire Kakuta to become a superstar at chelsesa.
We all have age on 31 years not know how we can remain in the top 4 in the premier league without buying large player.
Years 2011:
Drogba -33
Lampard -33
A.Cole -31
Anelka (OUT)-33
Ballack (OUT) -34
Malouda(OUT) -31
Deco(OUT) -34
Formation of the next year 2011:
—————Cech————–
-Bosingwa–Terry–Alex–A.Cole/Hutchinson
–Lampard/Matic—Essien/Mikel—Zhirkov—
—–Kakutta—–Sturridge—–Kalou——–
BC, i hope with this decision, the point i have so often raised about us being hated by the media, referees and the authorities is now made clear. The journos hate us cos when they were young the only successful teams were Manure and Loserpool. And those are the teams they support. And folks , no pundit is neutral. That is simply a lie. No one can follow footballand say he does not like one team over all others. The referees hate us cos that is the only time they get support from the journos.(when they make Chelsea suffer). A referee once told the boys “you lot need to be sorted out”. The authorities hate us cos well, Chelsea represents a challenge to the old order. How many times have we felt cheated in a CL match? how many times have had dodgy decisions against us in europe? How many times have we been sanctioned in europe? targeting the club, managers and the players.
Has any journalist questioned Rooneys foul mouthed tirades against referees? Oh no , Rooney is only showing his passion for the game. I have said this time and time again. Only if this Ovrebo scandal had happened to Manure, i would have loved to see Old Red Nose’s reaction.
Guys, Kakuta is a wonderful prospect. But that is it , he’s only a prospect. Currently he is still easing himself back to 100% after suffering a double ankle break (imagine Eduardo). We wont overturn this decision cos they will make sure they make an example of us. However we may have it reduced to one transfer window.
After starting the season so well , this is exactly the distraction we didn’t need. Hopefully Carlo can keep the spirit in the team. I know some haters are rubbing their palms with glee but we will pull through this and emerge even stronger. There is along season ahead, the road is full of bumps and holes. Hope we make it . Blue in the Blood!!!
I wanted to comment on the point about banning Eduardo. I think UEFA has set a very wrong precedent, even though the intentions are right. While the ban is well deserved, UEFA needs to think about starting and appointing a video referee like cricket or American football that can make real time decisions. Just adding more humans will not be the solution, although I have heard that they are thinking of appointing special referees that will be monitoring player activity only in the D.
If not, this will play in favor of clubs with large squads or a player they deem disposable. They will certainly risk the ban to get a penalty if no one is watching. Players themselves have admitted touching the ball with their hand and getting away with it…I wont say more.
I think a video referee that makes decisions in real-time is the best solution and might help in making the beautiful game, even more equitable and rid us of this scourge of diving
@ Bilal Chaudhary
The video evidence aid or a tv referee has been debated for many years now, as far as I can remember when I started really following footy back in 2002, and may be even before tht. Football governing bodies says referral to videos during games will disrupt the flow of the game. But in my opinion unfair decisions are even worse and spoil the game. Like we’ll always keep debating did Fletcher really give a penalty or did Chelsea really deserve getting 4 penalties vs. Barca. If there is a video referee, we’ll have fair decisions then and there, with no regrets and whining later.
Rugby adopted video refereeing, so did cricket. Even tennis has hawkeye support for judging which side of the line the ball fell. Which reminds me that its not only diving, or certain fouls which spoil the game, many goals are given (or not given) without the surety that the ball cross the line or not. Here I am reminded of the Luis Garcia (Liverpool) goal in Champions League vs. Chelsea. It has since been a point of debate. And btw that goal took Liverpool through so decisions can cost or benefit teams a lot.
FIFA adopted another technology for goal line decisions. Instead of raw video footage and a human ruling it a goal or not, they used sensors on the poles and ball. This was tested on international level (during theU-19 world cup I guess) but later the whole idea was abandoned, Im not sure why. May be the technology wasn’t efficient enough.
you knw wat guys??the decision kinda makes me happy. I dnt think we need any transfers this season…in the african cup of nations, huge gaps will be left…only to be filled by those at the club…so we have a high morale amongst evryone in the team..coz evryone played their part in this fantastic season:):)so who wud want to leave a champs league champion team??NONE…so yet again, in the summer we dont need players…just another striker though would help i guess..but with franco back in january…to hell with signings, I SAY….come on u blues..up the chels…KTBFFH!!!!
And about Phil McNulty, he even suggested under no circumstance should Chelsea ever deserve sympathy. Imagine that. And this is a UK journalist, head of football reportage at the BBC. Enough said.
it is quite obvious that FIFA and UEFA in particular are at no mercy for English club.The march against barcelona is very fresh in my memory. Also,if chelsea had not appael against drogba ban what would have happen.I hope this will not affect good spirit of chelsea.
Well this is absolutely shocking stuff from FIFA and UEFA, as chelsea fans its not like we havent seen double standards against us, but this has gone way too far.
RR and the rest of Manchester United fan
its foolish to compare the situations of Mutu and Rio, beacuse our clubs took two oppossite approaches to the subject, when Rio was found guilty, manchester united kept him on, i personally feel it was beacuse they had spent so much money on him(almost 30 mn pounds) that they couldnt hope to recover it by sueing him. In mutu’s case chelsea were not concerned about the money but the fact that Mutu’s immaturity created a lot of problem for our club and our reputation already being burned down by jealous rivals and media, moreover who knows, he might have scored the goal that would have sent us to a CL final, we were just turning the corner in our history and we lost our main striker beacuse of his ‘youthful mistake’.
I also feel that asking him to pay 15 mn or whatever, is a joke, but it was not a verdict passed by chelsea so we are not to blame, once again it was FIFA’s decision.
The other fact the mancs keep saying that we all have problems is laughable to say the least, while i am not a staunch believer of us vs them attitude i also believe that its ridiculous to compare random statements made against manu to several bans on chelsea. overbo was selected to be the ref of a CL semis having not officiated a european competition for a decade, that itself was outrageous, if SAF went haywire after a shove from ballack on evra in a community shield match, i dare not imagine his response to 5-6 clear penalties and pique not sent off, we lost the tie and even got bans for calling a spade a spade, bosingwa was banned for 2 matches for calling the ref a thief in an interview…wtf??
The problem i have right now is not the fact that we cannot sign players at all, we have the squad capable of overturning any team, but why injustice is being done on chelsea when all the other clubs are doing the same infact much much worse, dont tell me that all those years when liverpool dominated they did not snatch away young talents of other clubs, arsenal steal kids from all over the world year in and out, look at fabregas, anelka, etc etc, manu do it recent case is macheda, real madrid do it openly tapping up the biggest players on the planet, even chelsea face this, look at Nouble being prised away by west Ham, then why are just chelsea being punished??
its like a death penalty for stealing bread, i mean kakuta hasant even started playing for chelsea yet and the entire club is put to heel for him?? well done FIFA for getting it wrong again, it just took them 2 years to come up with this….
4 gudness sake.i don’t know d reason why all governing body hate d english clubs.firstly why would uefa ban Eduardo 4 diving,dats rubbish.becos he his nt d refree dat blew d penality kick,d ref is at fault.secondly,fifa want 2 kill chelsea 4 baning d club 4 2 transfer windows.fifa did nt think of january,when 4 of our key players go 4 nations cup in africa.pls appeal 2 them all.jamal
Im only concerned about the decision affecting our team spirit.We have started this season so well that we cannot afford to be distracted by a certain decision from a certain bunch of thieves who call themselves F**A.I personally see this as a plot to dampening the intensity of morale already existing in our(chelsea)dressing room.My advice is that the players be garthered,and advised not to allow themselves be perturbed by the on-going saga;they should on the contrary,see it as an opportunity to consolidate on the existing leadership in the premiership.To be candid,this is a very serious situation but it is from this kind of situation that the “mights” are distinguished from the weaklings.I believe strongly that we shall cross the red sea(with the bridge being ours).We are the boys from the bridge;definitely,we shall cross the sea.Long live Chelsea! Long live Abramovich!! Blues for ever.
Its nice to have a place to discuss about ur beloved chelsea.
hey denver nice to see you back on this blog.Seriously, I must say I really like you and your comments.
This is wicked but seems to me a blessing in disguise.
1.With this we can bring through our own youth players.
2.We will unearth our own gems in Di santo, Stoch, sinclair, mellis, kakuta and Borini orBruma and others.
We can also break even.I mean we can raise enugh funds.I mean we also save funds.
3.Guess Ballack gotta renew his conract in order to stay long but Anelka just a year contract.
4.In my opinion borini is ready for first team action.No need for pato when we got Borini.He is a world class striker.
Any way I am Ghanaian.My name is Charles Acquaye.If you care to know I am 16 .And a genius when
it comes to academics not trying to blow my own trumpet but its worth to mention.
wow, how I wish you could see Essien yesterday in Ghana’s training match against a team called Dreams FC.
Essien was phenomenal in the offensive role where he plays for Ghana.He missed a sitter.Well but Ghana won 4=0
courtesy 3 goals from Matthew Amoah and a goal from Dramani.Here, in Ghana we are crazy lovers of football and on sunday
if we win and mali draw straight we go to SA for 2010.Sunday is crucial and till then by.
I love you all blue fans blue is the color
Look at this situation from brighter side.
We’re Chelsea, WE ARE HATED, WE ARE CHEATED, WE ARE BANNED.
WE ARE UNIQUE!!! WE ARE CHELSEA.
There’s no other such club.
And besides, i want to see some reserves. As for us not qualifying for the CL spot in 2 years.
That’s a joke! We have a team that’s really well compatible for at least 5 years WITHOUT NEW SIGNINGS for every damn cup or title
And i am serious!
i pray our team comes out stronger and win the Premiership at least dis season..i hope wat u say is true BC, that we can loan players in may-aug 10 window and buy them out in January 11…i dont wanna miss out on a chance to sign Ribery n Aguero…
forzaaa chelsea
it all makes interesting reading.
i love the blues and will support em come wht may!! as far as my understanding of the ban goes we cant sign or register any player till jan 2011 tht means no loans either……………..and did u guys frget abt the milan lab whr old f*cks run like horses lol
and imagine kakuta on the left and stoch on the right with sturridge drogba and di santo scoring some killer goals ;)
besides we have mikel and ess!! i aint worried!!
be afraid so afraid tht u pee in ur pannies!!
KTBFF(f)H ;) cheers
I think this is a wakeup call for CFC. Let develop our youth system by injecting atleast 2 players from the youth team into the first team every season. Wake up Carlo, wake up. Dont be afraid to use your youngsters. U did it with Pato, so go ahead and give a few of them so match time and u will be surprised wit the output u will get.
BC,
It’s convenient from an argument perspective to say just because I am a United fan that I am completely blinded by my red-tinted specs to miss the obvious infractions. My point is not just about Chelsea. It is about the persecution complex among all fans of “Big Four” clubs. Even United fans are guilty of that. I’m sure many commenters here will tell me to shove it, but Chelsea have broken rules in this specific case, based on the rulebook according to FIFA (page 17 of this pdf.)
4. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall be imposed on any club found to be in breach of contract or found to be inducing a breach of contract during the protected period. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any club signing a professional who has terminated his contract without just cause has induced that professional to commit a breach. The club shall be banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for two registration periods.
And If United are to be punished similarly, then I would say “well, tough shit then, no excuses!”. Of course, the obvious question would be if this sort of thing has a precedent. There are three cases of such a thing happening — Scion FC of Switzerland (pardon my spelling), Roma, on Mexes (although their ban was reduced from 2 windows to 1 on appeal), and a Saudi Arabian club. If it says so in the rules, and if the “victim” club that lost the player to the bigger club complains with credible enough evidence, I would have not problem with this whole situation, even if it is my club.
My concerns are on a different level, though:
1. In the case of Kakuta with Lens (and Paul Pogba with Le Havre who seemed to have lodged a similar complaint against United) this is based on a pre-contract agreement which FIFA seems to recognize as binding. I don’t accept why FIFA should recognize a contract which essentially tells a player to sign another contract. That is ridiculous.
2. My second concern is, this rule is being applied without regard to local association rules. In Italy this wouldn’t be an issue, because there cannot be a pre-contract agreement. Either FIFA must enforce the same pre-contract rules across all associations globally, so that bigger clubs cannot poach young talent, or respect the right to self-determination of a player to choose his club as long as he is not IN a contract in the first place — doing away with pre-contracts all together. This is in line with EU’s policy of restraint of trade.
That’s my point. I honestly don’t have the time to debate on the “injustices of the media or UEFA or FA” or the agenda that “vested interests may have” on the game. That involves far too much speculation which is harder for me to debate on.
get your loophole b1tch!
http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/09/04/1481172/loophole-gives-chelsea-hope-for-january-transfer-window
Let me tell you our fixtures in January 2010..African Nations Cup starts on 10th Jan and ends on 31st Jan…
2nd jan – FA Cup – unknown opponent
9th Jan – Hull City – Away
16th Jan – Sunderland – Home
27th Jan – Birmingham – Home
30th Jan – Burnley – Away
In place for Drogba we can give the new boy Sturridge a chance who can pair with Anelka, Joe Cole will be fit to replace Kalou, Mikel anyways is a substitute, Essien would be hard to replace and Ballack can fill in for him, then we have options in Deco n Zhirkov, who knows Kakuta as well lol…
We immediately play Arsenal on Feb 6th at Home after the African Cup.. Even with our African players missing we can win all these games…
RR
Fully agree on the pre-contract thingy and about the applicability of the rules across all leagues. I see where you’re coming from. I don’t want to just talk about this incident. I will talk only about the bigger picture and the scheme of things. My stance is also very clear. I’m not saying that Chelsea are not guilty. I don’t think anyone can pass a verdict with the information available in the press. If we could do this, that would really undermine the efforts of the courts and lawyers and the system of football justice.
All I’m saying is, whatever Chelsea is alleged/convicted for, is a common practice across Europe. If we are talking about Chelsea violating a certain FIFA regulation, my questions are only this:
1. Is Chelsea the only club that has violated this regulation?
2. What about all other FIFA regulations? How many clubs are failing there?
This is very much like the Eduardo case. In isolation, what Eduardo did was wrong and he deserves punishment. But we cannot and should not look at that in isolation. Unless, this is a standard across European football, this is pure injustice. If English clubs are given a raw deal by UEFA/FIFA, we don’t need Albert Einstein to say who would be worst affected of the English clubs.
Which was the last time, a club as big as Chelsea in the football scene (as on the date of conviction) was slapped with a punishment of such severity? The partial treatment is what is really creating doubts in the minds of the Chelsea fans, and rightfully so.
If you say that an action would be taken only if the aggrieved club makes a complaint with credible evidence, it sounds good enough trigger for an arbitration process, which is a post-mortem analysis. That’s the job of the courts, arbitration authorities. The role of the sports body such as FIFA is to prevent (not just the post-mortem) such occurrences by having very tight rules and regulations. They don’t want to, because it hurts their galaxy of favoured clubs.
I have all the time for injustices of the media and (not or) FIFA/UEFA because that’s bloody obvious for us. You being a Man Utd fan, I can fully understand that you don’t have the time for that. However, I will not and don’t have to think that the anti-Chelsea comments and sentiments from the football authorities will not bias their decisions when it comes to delivering such football ‘justice’. It’s like expecting a communist to do a fair trial of a capitalist on a financial crime. I’m talking about the fair trial while you’re talking about capitalist.
There are some very outspoken and well-documented words of hatred by the football authorities over what happened at Chelsea. It’s high time football authorities had started taking a true, unbiased role instead of having a philosophy that’s left uncovered by the rules and regulations and thereby having favourite sons and step-children.
Well, we are doomed! But, look at the bright side, we will get to slot in our young players from reserves team and maybe featuring in the first team. That’s how I like to look at it now.
http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/09/05/1481841/chelsea-facing-legal-threat-over-signing-of-jeremy-boga
the time has come for every french league 2 team to come out of the woodwork and take away all our transfer periods and deduct points from us etc etc etc…..
I think part of the problem is fifa are treating kakuta as if he was on a pro contract. Something he wasnt.
Since he was not on a pro contract when chelsea got him you cannot actually punish chelsea for getting him. Article 17 paragraph 4 if im not mistaken speciifically only applies to professionals not amatuers. This means chelsea cannot under that rule be fined since the rules clearly only apply to professional players, unless FIFA can somehow prove that a 15 year old was a pro player which would wreck their case against kakuta since that would mean under french law lens had him illegaly signed.
Perhaps kakuta could be banned for 4 months but only if the supposed contract of no solicitation is seen as a true legal contract and that would need to apply under french and EU law i think. Remember kakuta was under 16 when chelsea signed him as a scholar. If you cant give him a real contract why would a half arsed contract be suitable, the kid could just go i was misinformed and since i was so young and under french law unable to legally sign a document anyway i dont need to keep my end of the bargain.
Chelsea will appeal and most likely win since this case is silly, Lens just want more money. The same thing with the boga case, his dad lived in the chelsea catchment area ffs. The kid was 11 and had no contract whatsover because he is fucking 11!
Now by some slight chance chelsea are forced to wait till Jan 2011 they are still allowed to sign players, they just cant register them as chelsea players in any FIFA based area, meaning lets say we buy messi then till 1st January 2011 messi can train at chelsea, play in friendlies but cannot play a competitive game even for the reserves. Similar thing happened with pato at Milan since Milan signed him when he was 17 but italian law wouldnt let them register him as an Milan player till he was 18 and the transfer window opened.
Basically chelsea should come through, the CAS might side with FIFA because they as FIFA’s bitches but chelsea can take this decision to the EU courts and win there.
The whole scenerio does not surprise me in the slightest. FIFA appear to make it up as they go along and then some where Chelsea FC are concerned. I do think that this latest ploy to get at us is disgusting and must actually be highly illegal.
Also when are we going to get the 16 million back that we had to pay out to secure the J Mickel transfer, particularly the 12 m
Man U got.