The champions league draw for the first knockout round will begin today at 11:00 UK. Chelsea could draw one of Barca, Juventus, Bayern, Porto and Panathinaikos. The first leg of the knockout round will be on 24/25 February and the second leg would be on 10/11 March. Who would you like us to draw?
There would be a feeling of deja vu with all these opponents. We have had epic clashes with Barcelona when they were at their peak of form, including that unforgettable night at Stamford Bridge. We have met Porto quite a few times in the champions league in the recent seasons. Bayern were knocked out by Chelsea in the 04-05 quarter finals which saw the bad blood between Michael Ballack and John Terry. Juventus is managed by Ranieri who was given the boot by Roman after a semi final finish in the champions league. Panathinaikos is coached by Ten Cate, who also had a Chelsea connection when he was deputising Avram Grant.
In each of these matches, there is a bit of home coming involved. Deco could visit Camp Nou. Ballack could play at Allianz Arena. Carvalho could set foot on Estadio Do Dragao. Ranieri and Ten Cate could get a warm welcome at Stamford Bridge.
If you ask me, I’ve got no preferences but I’ll tell you we should not draw Porto or Panathinaikos. Yeah, you read it right. We should avoid the lightweights. We should draw a top team and we should beat them. That would bring the belief back into the team that we can win it. I’m not assuming that this belief is not there already. Let me say, it has taken a beating. A couple of uncharacteristically inconsistent months, I think, might have put a big dent on Chelsea’s belief.
Because we finished second in the group, we will get to play the first leg at Stamford Bridge and the second leg at Camp Nou . . er . . in the away stadium, I mean. Going by the current home and away form, you might think that this could be a blessing in disguise. If you do so, you’re as naive as I am. What is our away form made of? Who have we beaten away? Wigan, Stoke City, Hull City, Man City, Middlesbrough, Blackburn, West Brom and Bolton. What about Europe? We might have to travel to Camp Nou or Stadio Olimpico do Torino or Allianz Arena. There are light years between the away games that we played in the premier league and the ones that we might have to play in the champions league. So, to be very honest, I’ll conclude that, even in our current away form, playing the second leg away is not a very positive thing.
I don’t mind drawing the biggies because by the time these knock out matches are played, we might have Essien and Carvalho back. Plus, we might have some surprise signings in January. The same logic holds good for our opponents too. But as long as we are at our full strength, we can beat any team in the world, including the red-hot, in-form FC Barcelona.
My wild guess: Bayern Munich.
i want barcelona,if we dont get them jose should get them,they need to be really brought down to earth,they are flying at the moment.
if not barcelona,then juventus.
but even if we draw any of these teams ,their stadiums are huge,they have got that 12th man at home
yes i also think we should draw juve bayern or barca but i will prefer bayern or juve
@BC
Hope it is Inter……..?????????? Just so that when we knock them out,you have better things to do then telling about special substitutions vs rock-bottom “no nothing” chievo or his dropping of 4-3-3[the only special formation,special one has managed to know] for 4-4-2[inspite of special inclusion of quaresma and mancini[special wingers for the special one]who have unknowingly due to no fault of special one have flopped as much as malouda and kalou] and his special ability to get a team 9 points clear which has the best squad in italy and has run away with league twice and of course with no competition from Any side.
@BC
Oh sorry………….I Just now realized that special one has managed to give us a breather by comin 2nd in his group…………consisting of the almighty werder[who managed to defeat them once with pizarro scoring twice.........lol.........jose used his special powers to revive pizarro's ability to score],panathaikos[who managed to defeat him at san siro......who says jose loses at home.........no never.......they even didn't lose to milan at home] and some unknown cyprus side[which managed to defeat his special squad]
of course that group is tougher than what we had got………..after all greek league is better french and german league is better than italian………………but alas the forces of nature,refrees and owner all were against him and conspired against his almighty powers………………………..
Well Scolari is just a lesser mortal with less special powers……………………..please pardon him for not being able to be special with special tactical powers and making 3 out of the world substitutions against sh*t chievo…………………………………and please pardon anelka caus he is premier league top scorer[something special buys like kalou and malouda will never be caus they have been departed by their god who bought them] and pardon him caus he doesn’t score against big opponents[though with bolton i remember him scoring against man usa,le arse and shitfool]…………….after all 3 big games nd he has not scored…………….whereas mighty kalou and malouda blessed specially have managed to though in public eyes they are sh*tter than the sh*t.
this is my guess.
roma vs villarreal
Panathinaikos vs lyon
Barcelona vs inter milan
Liverpool vs real madrid
Manchester United vs atletico madrid
Bayern Munich vs sporting lisbon
Porto vs arsenal
Juventus vs chelsea
I prefer play with Barca in the semi final ,. but for now i prefer juventus . our away record in the champions league sucks . we have to improve or we are out
anyon knows what time is the live draw in singapore?
[quote comment="61116"]@BC
Hope it is Inter……..?????????? [/quote]
Your point being . . .
@sammy
i hope you follow this blog….BC actually asked the question which team would we prefer to draw…lol
@Everyone
TBF is back….and here are his verdicts
1.Outstanding player-lampard,mikel
it’s refreshing to watch lampard nowadays,no matter what his goal tally suggests from previous seasons,he is in the form of his life.
Mikel is gem and as vital to us as water to me.
2.scolari’s flaws-brazillian bias though it does not refer to deco(will explain later).
Hi
We should not worried about other opponent .We should think about us.With this current form in home, it will be very tough to beat any team.We should play postive mindset and should play with different formation.
Hi
We should not worried about other opponent .We should think about us.With this current form in home, it will be very tough to beat any team.We should play with postive mindset and should play with different formation.
i wouldnt mind bayern,porto or juve…but i want barca so that chelsea can bring them back to earth….u think eto’o,henry,etc. will be able to tackle our back 4?
Vaurn, I couldn’t agree with you more. Talent on paper, Chelsea matches up well with almost any team in the CL. The problem is lack of strategic versetility and , in BC’s words, our loss of “ruthless pragmitism.” If Scolari and the team can come up with these two traits, Chelsea could find themselves lifting the silverware this season. But, if they continue with this “beautiful” football, the opening rounds of the 2009 UEFA CUP may very well be our fate!
TBF – you are terribly boring. no matter what you say jose mourinho is the best manager in the world.
@calvin
i don’t think there is a term known as “best manager”.he is a good manager…no doubt…but best…i have no words really…nyways i have better things to do than debate over jose
juventus to us
chelsea-juventus
villareal-panathanikos
sporting-bayern
atletico-porto
lyon-barca
real madrid-liverpool
arsenal-roma
man united-inter
i like the last one one and ours as well
its juve that mean certain raineri returning
not quite happy with the draw, specially coz we have problem breaking the defence, and they have probably one of the best defence in the world. And they have on form Buffon….but lets see, good luck to your lads….
not quite happy with the draw, specially coz we have problem breaking the defence, and they have probably one of the best defence in the world. And they have on form Buffon….but lets see, good luck to our lads….
haha, and i feel pity for Man U. They must be shitting in their pants right now.
[quote comment="61132"]@calvin
i don’t think there is a term known as “best manager”.he is a good manager…no doubt…but best…i have no words really…nyways i have better things to do than debate over jose[/quote]
No. I don’t think so. Jose Mourinho is the BEST MANAGER.
i’ve got some rite for my guess…no matter wat opponent, it depends on chelsea…liverpool and man u have gotten themselves difficult opponent too
i hate Manu.hope inter of mourinho will win,Manu out.anh Chelsea vs Juve, my guest is Chelsea next to 1/8 with total score Chelsea 2-1 Juve
juventus could be our best match up. They have shit midfield so we will decimate them there, our defense should be able to handle their attack and the only real worries are there defense which is on par with ours.
They are seen as a big club yet they are struggling in italy and their stature compared to europe has fallen off considerably.
The inter – manU game is the highlight but i wouldnt mind seeing the lyon – barce game.
@iwasmissingjose
on form buffon?lol buffon has hardly played this season…on form chillieni,del piero,amauri would have been more apt.
And sorry,no matter how much i hate manusa,i will be out of my wits to say they will be shitting at the prospect of facing jose n his inter(no disrespect meant to jose here).inter have a real big game bottler in ibrahimovic..who inter are built around.
[quote comment="61146"]@iwasmissingjose
on form buffon?lol buffon has hardly played this season…on form chillieni,del piero,amauri would have been more apt.
And sorry,no matter how much i hate manusa,i will be out of my wits to say they will be shitting at the prospect of facing jose n his inter(no disrespect meant to jose here).inter have a real big game bottler in ibrahimovic..who inter are built around.[/quote]
haha, agreed with first point. I was throwing too much.
with the second point, i´m sure ManU will be shitting in their pants, coz. Jose hasn´t lost a game against them. In fact he won against them with Porto as well. So for me ManU is already out of competition.
WE ARE FUCKED , WITH DEL PIERO IN FORM IF MIKEL MADE A MISTAKE BY FOALING :HE WILL BEAT CECH ON FREE KICK ,LUCKY DRAW FOR ARSENAL AND LIVERPOOL.
ONE MISTAKE BY MIKEL=GOAL FROM FREE KICK BY DEL PIERO.
juventus are a slow team, their attack is off-par with trezeguet who has been dropped from international team their best man, ther midfield is slow, aged and weak they have a solid defence and a brilliant keeper
the games should be low scoring but we need to be wary about giving away set pieces as most juventus players are kick takers. If we play a solid physical games in the midfield, we should dominate them and playing two big strikers, I would even play di santo against them, would unlock a very short heighted defence
as for the other draws, who are liverpool fooling, do you think madrid are going to be walkovers? ramos will mean business by drawing first blood, madrid are a very quick team, liverpool is not renowned for pace. Man ut and Inter are my most interesting matchup, will ronaldo go quiet in the ambience of quaresma? yes. are inter on form? yes. is man utd? no. Inter are a big team, with talent where it is needed, man utd are about to be humiliated
barca vs inter finale if they keep playing the way they are
if we are going to win this season, we need another team to knock out barca, they have too much speed for us to tackle them now
@CFCIR
Well mate, I think u have too much respect for del piero. If he could have scored every free kick, he could have been the top scorer in italy. You have underestimated cech (still the best in the business). You r the same person who earlier (@ no 6) wished we could play juve. You are way too negative.
Chelsea rules !!!!!!!!!!!
Go chelsea Go !!!!!!!!!!
Chelsea vs Juventus..:S
Go chelsea:$(L)
JUVENTUS! TINKERMAN!! Oh Nooooooooooooooo! If Scolari continues to be stuck on stupid and not make necessary tactical changes, Roman’s and Kenyon’s worst nightmare will come true. Remember, they sacked Ranieri because “He hasn’t won anything significant” (c’mon, he did make the club respectable). Then they sack Mourinho for getting off to a bad start in the 2006-07 season after guiding Chelsea to SIX TROPHIES IN THREE YEARS (heck, did you really think he wouldn’t win something if he had remained?). The “incompetent” and the “ugly football” managers could wind up having the last laugh at a rich Russian who fired them. Scolari, if you fail and Inter plays Juve in the final, the Columbus Crew in the American MLS can use a good manager.
C’MON CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!
Alors, Juventus it is.
Well, I think we got a fair draw. Juventus sounds an easy game for me. May be better than Panathinaikos, you never know how strong the greek teams can become. Well we are destined to have an old connection with most of the teams and it turns out to be tinker man. I dont think personally if he wants to take revenge on chelsea. He must have long forgotten about all the fuss or even feeling happy that he was out of Chelsea. ( seeing things go wrong in last season) .So, i dont think there is much of revenge to be taken in this game.
Delpiero?, no I would say Amauri will be more dangerous than del peiro. Also, i have read great things about giovinco, but havent seen him while playing. Whatever team they are gonna field, Chelsea looks firm favorites to progress. We should be having Essien and RC by then.
Speaking of our friends, well no presents for guessing here. Manu-Inter is going to be The Match to watch. An Inter spokes person is seen quoting that mourinho wanted Manu and it happened. May be, he already started playing the mind games. I believe Arsenal will crash out to the romans and i strongly feel liverpool is going to progress. Real is weak in defence, it looks shit to me. Benitez may be thinking some alternate career options and he sure wants to impress people at Bernebau. Barca are gonna definitely progress. When i got to chose between benzema and messi, you know the answer.
not a bad draw at all. juventus struggle in midfield and that is where our strongest game is. If we can get the win while avoiding a goal, it will open up the second leg as they would have to attack. and with scolari raving about how we play such great football when there is an open game, we should see some good things. although, if I were JT I would be fully aware of Amauri… my guess is he is going to be the x-factor for them and likewise a similar player in type would suggest Drogba would be for us…
[quote comment="61117"]@BC
Oh sorry………….I Just now realized that special one has managed to give us a breather by comin 2nd in his group…………consisting of the almighty werder[who managed to defeat them once with pizarro scoring twice.........lol.........jose used his special powers to revive pizarro's ability to score],panathaikos[who managed to defeat him at san siro......who says jose loses at home.........no never.......they even didn't lose to milan at home] and some unknown cyprus side[which managed to defeat his special squad]
of course that group is tougher than what we had got………..after all greek league is better french and german league is better than italian………………but alas the forces of nature,refrees and owner all were against him and conspired against his almighty powers………………………..
Well Scolari is just a lesser mortal with less special powers……………………..please pardon him for not being able to be special with special tactical powers and making 3 out of the world substitutions against sh*t chievo…………………………………and please pardon anelka caus he is premier league top scorer[something special buys like kalou and malouda will never be caus they have been departed by their god who bought them] and pardon him caus he doesn’t score against big opponents[though with bolton i remember him scoring against man usa,le arse and shitfool]…………….after all 3 big games nd he has not scored…………….whereas mighty kalou and malouda blessed specially have managed to though in public eyes they are sh*tter than the sh*t.[/quote]
you’re such an idiot!!! why do u talk only about kalou and malouda as JM’s signings? what about essien? is he a bad player or a bad signing? what about mikel? in your other post you only praised him? what about drogba? why don’t you talk about him? such a fool you are talking about anelka scoring for BOLTON against liverpool, man utd and arsenal? who cares what he did with bolton. here is a big choker. all managers have sh*t signings, there is an ugly list for fergie, benitez and wenger too.
jose mourinho is the best.
TBF
I thought you knew this. I’m a massive Jose Mourinho fanatic. Even if his Inter gets relegated to Serie B, I would continue to adore him. Even if he is humiliated 10-0 at home by a Serie C team, I won’t stop singing his praise. That’s just me. Jose is a phenomenon. In my eyes, he is the best football manager alive, above Sir Alex, above Lippi, above Capello, above Sacchi, above everyone else.
Now what?
To get Juve was good for us. Juve is a veteran team they know how to defend. and in buffon they have if not the best but one of the 3 best GK in the world. but he is set to leave for man city lol (money talks), will se what happens wit that transfer. he been on the injury list most of the season so far though.
as many mentioned here their midfielders arent great. Del peiro is Del peiro! Mohamed Sissoko is their “mikel”. Amauri is their best striker, and he can cause us problem. specialy in our current floppy defence. But in feb we should have our swagger back.
Their back 4 are decent wit Chiellini and Mellberg leading the way.
The Great David Trézéguet is not playing. I dont know if he is out for the whole season or if he will be back for the second half. David is a guy who needs one chance to kill you, so will se if he is in the squad by the time for the first leg.
For us to win this round we need to dominate the midfield and have TWO strikers upfront. I know some of you saw the (inter – Juve) game awhile ago, and we should be able to dominate them like inter did.
as for the rest of the draw, Jose said after they lost to Werder, “we deserve barca or man u” lol
NOW he got his wish. I dont care what current form barca have, they would be easier task for TSO then Man u. If inter wins this one its a bit of an upset for me. cause I rate man u as the team to beat. I know inter have a good squad, but they havent preformed in europe. Ibra bein inters franchise player, I think man u have more matchwinner in their team.
Se both Arsenal and liverpool as favourite to advance to last 8.
this ma wish-list for the last 8={chelsea – villareal – bayern – atletico – barca – liverpool – arsenal – man united}
/blue
one mistake by foaling=del piero goal from free kick
BC,
I will confess that when I saw the pic on the BBC with Sir Alex and Jose on the touchline during a game, a tear came from my left eye. God, how I miss him! I cried the day Roman fired him! Yes, Jose Mourinho was the Special One. Since he left, Chelsea hasn’t been as special. Since Clarke left, Chelsea has been ordinary at best.
Phil, I appreciate the fact that you are different. That’s okay. But, I expect you to manage the team in a way that produces confidence, percision, and victories. Even in a loss, there ought to be a swagger to let other opponents know not to expect another one. Please Phil, at least restore the first two characteristics. The results will follow.
guys read this article
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2055627.ece
especially the last few lines,just shows how much still he likes chelsea
Great story on Chelseablog.
On Scolari,
We needn’t be talking about a sack. Somebody just needs to be brought in to assist him. My heart screams for Steve Clarke. He’s the only variable that has changed in the core Chelsea equation, and we see the direction the reaction is moving. I doubt things will improve much when Essien returns. See,the problemis with the Mentality of play. If Arsene Wenger had all our players we’ll be in this exact same position. It’s the fancy football thing. I
On playing 2 strikers,
I still beg to hold a contrary opinion. In the games they’ve played together-the sulkand the hulk,the sulk has just generally retreated into ‘his personal dark space’,while the Hulk was left alone wrecking the havoc. Putting Anelka on with Droghameans will be playing with 10 men and if he persists with Deco in his present formthen,we’ll have omly 9 men forusand 12 against.
Having said these, I actuallythink we’ll start doing better from Westbrom. only problem is Liverpool may also start doing better. So let’s pray for a Liverpool Arsinine draw.
[quote comment="61175"]TBF
I thought you knew this. I’m a massive Jose Mourinho fanatic. Even if his Inter gets relegated to Serie B, I would continue to adore him. Even if he is humiliated 10-0 at home by a Serie C team, I won’t stop singing his praise. That’s just me. Jose is a phenomenon. In my eyes, he is the best football manager alive, above Sir Alex, above Lippi, above Capello, above Sacchi, above everyone else.
Now what?[/quote]
LOl! I think you should be starting a Blue and Black champions blog. Anyway, I rate Mourinho one of the best, but I dont agree that he is above some of the managers quoted here. That’s my opinion.
Coming to the match, I feel that ManU is going to crash again at San siro. A couple of reasons, San Siro has always been unlucky for ManU and Ronaldo ‘the Diver’ is not interested in ManU nowadays. I can say that, he is not playing with his heart. He wants to move out of Manchester. I dont think ManU sans ronaldo is good enough to beat Inter under Jose.
Juventus mid field is not that bad, Sissoko and camoroneissi. They also have nedved . In Del Peiro , they have a very inspirational captain, just like JT ..Amauri is good, but so is david trequet. Will he be back by the time of CL.
The home leg is crucial, clean sheet with a win of 2 goals, will help . But again in CL, you win when you defeat the best teams. There was no fun last year, playing olympicous and fenerbache.. in 04, we defeated barca and bayern to go to semis .. arsenal defeated real madrid, juventus to go to final. barca defeated chelsea and milan to win the cl.
point i make about juventus is they are in the same shoes as arsenal and liverpool
they have players that look like prospects, they put up a challenge, but they lack that player that truly energises them, and their midfield is hardly fear inspiring, as well as lacking pace and strength
im not saying they will be push overs, they are a capable team, but they haven’t experienced what a real english team can do
if you see the video of the draw, just look at the representatives of lyon. They got pissed off as soon as they knew they are playing barca :P, lol
The first leg will be very crucial because we have been very poor travellers . Their stadium are huge and it will be a big night at Turin , with their supporter being the 12th Man.
Hopefully essien is back by end Jan, and will be match fit for this encounter. Scolari must have finished practising two strikers also by then.
It is not impossible to defeat barca. In the three years of Mourinho, we lost twice to barca, they lost twice to us and two scoring draws at camp nou. The two games we lost to barca, we played with 10 men and one of them for more than 60 minutes. Liverpool ( without Torres) and Man U have also defeated Barca , so it is possible. Arsenal was also very close to defeating them with 10 men .. Finally it all depends on the tactician you have .
WE should Start practicing Penalties day and night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xerexesk @ 49
I agree with the practsing of penalties !
The whole team should practice penalties at 10,000 pounds a miss. That’ll weed out the bottlers !
We should practice penalties in such a way we can score 6 goals in 5 penalties….
5 kicks = 5 goals >>> not good enough
5 kicks = >5goals >>> well done
I dont want to see Chelsea exiting a tournament by penalties.
why r people so scared of Barca…I have seen them playing this season and no doubt they have shown a great consistency in wining points but its down to the fact that La Liga teams don’t park the bus like teams in EPL….had Barca been playing in EPL they would had certainly dropped points because they also don’t know to mix up the game when needed…they also rely a lot on making incursions through passing and breaking through middle….if opposition decides to defend for their life no way Barca can win….
regarding Chelsea-Juve, we should win though it would take a hell lot of hard work and tactical acumen….
ManU will steam roll Inter…Liverpool will also proceed…not sure of Arsenal…
someone said Jose would be god even if Inter goes down to second division….now thats what is called loosing mind…
[quote comment="61180"]BC,
I will confess that when I saw the pic on the BBC with Sir Alex and Jose on the touchline during a game, a tear came from my left eye. God, how I miss him!
I cried the day Roman fired him! Yes, Jose Mourinho was the Special One. Since he left, Chelsea hasn’t been as special. Since Clarke left, Chelsea has been ordinary at best.
Phil, I appreciate the fact that you are different. That’s okay. But, I expect you to manage the team in a way that produces confidence, percision, and victories. Even in a loss, there ought to be a swagger to let other opponents know not to expect another one. Please Phil, at least restore the first two characteristics. The results will follow.[/quote]
utterly ridiculous accusation… as I see it, when Mourinho was here, the year he was released was due to “underacheiving” and we’ve already made it farther in the CL without him, than with him.
This is the example of not being a Chelsea fan… if you love Mourinho so much go be an Inter fan!
[quote comment="61242"]This is the example of not being a Chelsea fan… if you love Mourinho so much go be an Inter fan![/quote]
Na na. You’re missing the point. I have a soft corner for Jose Mourinho in the same way I have for Luiz Ronaldo. I don’t know why, I always wish the best for Luiz Ronaldo, wherever he is, irrespective of his tummy size. He is a legend and one of the greatest players ever and I admire him so much. That does not make me a Barca fan or a Madrid fan or a Corithians fan. If Lampard goes to another club, I’d still be tracking him, wishing him well and will be very pleased to know if he really does well. I have my such list of personalities I admire and everyone will have their own list. And our lists won’t match and that cannot be a reason for intolerance and abuse.
Well, I’m not pointing the finger at you Vinton Lindo. Just thought of making it clear.
Jose Mourinho is the reason I loved Chelsea, and after he walked away my love for the Blues never left, and it never will. But Mourinho will always be special to me and I wish him success wherever he goes, I don’t think it means BC is an Inter fan just because he loves Mourinho so much. I’m the same way as well as many other people. JM will always be loved.
Mourinho, Mourinho, Mourinho, simply bored of the man, Chelsea fans just cant move on can they?? ppl who are still struck with Mourinhoism can go and support Inter then, what is the point of being a Chelsea fan if at all times all u can think of is Jose?? this is not Jose worshippers blog(or is it??), i mean yeah he was a good manager but for hevens sake a man who played Robert Huth upfront agnst Barca when we had to overhaual a 2-1 defecit tells u if he is the GREATEST coach alive, heck he isint by a mile, ppl can harp on his great buy Essien, but hey isint he the man who signed SWP, Malouda, Kalou, Del Horno, Pizarro, Sidwell, Ferreira, Ben Haim, Boluahrouz etc etc, even when Chelsea are at such a crucial stage, with so many prblems, “Jose cld do this he cld do that” blah blah blah, give us REAL chelsea fans a break from ur god, many managers have come and gone many players have come and gone, its the club that remains and if thats not who u ppl support, then everything all of u are doing here is rubbish..
oh and Kasper before u go abt thinking u are a smart guy, atleast check ur facts DROGBA was signed by Ranieri just before he was sacked, so pls stop spouting, jeez Jose lovers are absolutely blind…
@ 56 joeblue
LOL so true , it seems everyone here is infatuated over Mourinho. I like everyone else was heartbroken when he left, but I got over it. Seeing Scolaris deficiencies does make me miss him but nonetheless Im a Chelsea supporter and not a Mourinho fanboy. I supported Chelsea from vialli to Ranieri . Chelsea was there before mourinho and no one is bigger than the club. I think alot of the fans on this blog started supporting Chelsea during the Mourinho years when we had success by the bucketload and hence all the erotic love towards him. I wonder how everyone here will feel when one day in a few years hes manager at Old Trafford which is almost certain to happen. Will you guys start supporting Man U? Will you wish him well there aswell?
@above
xactly…mourinho has his place in our history..scolari has his flaws but this gayish(not pointin at anyone strictly) love towards jose makes my blood boil…we have better things to do than show how much we love jose.
Jose is history…and he won’t be suceedin SAF at OT…liverpool,inter n at best juventus are da only club which will even consider appointing jose…rest won’t
@BC
Nice to see u clarify….i have soft corner for rooney,fabregas,torres,shevchenko,kaka,messi,iniesta,ronaldinho…that doesn’t mean i support le’arse,shitfool or comparing our players to them every second day mentioning their glory times…serie a is nowhere to epl..yet u keen on comparing jose’s serie a exploit.
@ BC
u must know by now BC that u hold a very important place for many Chelsea fans, ppl come to this blog to vent their frustrations, to seek solutions, to console one another after dramatic losses, to discuss the good and bad of the club, to be one united behind the club, we might have our differences but for Chelsea we shld all stand togeather, now i understand most ppl here are post Abramovich fans, infact Mourinho era fans and u are one too, but you as the blogleader have the responsability of so many others, just cuz Mourinho is the man u saw incharge since u started supporting Chelsea does NOT make him the best ever, or Lampard being so good under him does not make him the best player, everyone has faults, but we here come togeather for Chelsea, a club which has existed before ur god Jose’s grandad was even born, i frankly dont give a fag what he does at Inter, but i give a lot for what Chelsea do every single moment, perhaps it is too much to ask of ppl who are so used to 25 mn pound Essiens and 23 mn pound SWP’s etc to think just abt Chelsea, but for those who have been Chelsea fans in times when we havent had money to keep our own players, when qualifying for the CL was an achievement, when a piece of skill from Zola wld get the crowd excited even after a loss, but as i said perhaps its too much too ask…
Its not that we need mourinho back at any cost; He simply serves as a minimum level of qualification for any Chelsea-football-coach if he wants to really achieve something at Chelsea and make this club successful! Thats why we mention his name so much. coz´LFS and AG haven´t been up to his standards…..
Is it joeblue? How come you didn’t have the patience when JM was the manager. Now you all talk like some good noble men. Check back your abuses on JM. No one’s abusing Scolari like that. No way near to what you guys threw at JM, yet you guys can’t stand if scolari’s flaws are pointed out!
[quote comment="61272"]Its not that we need mourinho back at any cost; He simply serves as a minimum level of qualification for any Chelsea-football-coach if he wants to really achieve something at Chelsea and make this club successful! Thats why we mention his name so much. coz´LFS and AG haven´t been up to his standards…..[/quote]
Ahh the Inter fan again. Yes Mourinho is a Chelsea legend, but im curious to know, what standards are you talking about? Trophies? Last time I checked they hand out the trophies at the end of the season..wait till then before you start judging anyones “standards”. Still dont understand why you care so much if your a Jose/Inter fan tho.
Incase everyone forgets, Scolaris only spent 8 mill on the squad. When mourinho joined he spent over 1oo mill in his first season. Give Scolari that much money and see what he would do with it before you guys judge him. Give Scolari Duff and Robben instead of Malouda and Kalou (both Jose’s purchases) and see what he would do.
Jose was a master tactician but buying players and judging players abilities and potential was NOT his strong point. The amount of money he spent on flop signings was ridiculous (and im not counting Sheva since he was Romans purchase). His flawed signings were one of the reasons why our squad is so unbalanced now. Joses only good signings have been RC, Drogs and Essien.
Remember Jose worshippers, he was the one that wanted Ben Haim over Alex! And Kezman over Rooney!
is it crew?? yes it is, has he learnt to read yet?? nope.
where have i said that anybody has abused Scolari?? i am only talking abt supporting Chelsea, but u just need an opportunity to show ur foolishness, pls start reading before jumping abt…
@chelseachelsea
dude Jose dd NOT sign Drogba, it was a done deal under Ranieri, but he was unveiled just abt in a week when Ranieri was sacked and Jose was appointed..
[quote comment="61272"]Its not that we need mourinho back at any cost; He simply serves as a minimum level of qualification for any Chelsea-football-coach if he wants to really achieve something at Chelsea and make this club successful! Thats why we mention his name so much. coz´LFS and AG haven´t been up to his standards…..[/quote]
If he is the minimum level of qualification, then I would say very few or may be no one will qualify . even fergie took around 5 season to win EPL once. I would say AG is the minimum level, atleast reach the finals . Definitely not existing out of the fourth or fifth round..
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Incase everyone forgets, Scolaris only spent 8 mill on the squad. When mourinho joined he spent over 1oo mill in his first season. Give Scolari that much money and see what he would do with it before you guys judge him. Give Scolari Duff and Robben instead of Malouda and Kalou (both Jose’s purchases) and see what he would do.
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Hey LFS publicly said he was happy with his squad and it is capable of wining all the four trophies.. He even went on to say , if he doesn’t win the EPL , it would not be because he couldn’t sign Robinho.. In fact he went about trimming the squad.
Guys, Jose before chelsea, took a Porto team to UEFA cup and Champions league win also .. That was not a multi million assembled team.. he used his resources in the best possible manner. He is best thing that happened to chelsea.
We talk about Scolari, when he lead Brazil to win, that team had Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho in prime form ..Ronaldo was the FIFA player of that year. So may be he won because of the talent in his disposal and he was able to play his favourite 4-1-4-1 with the same player for 7 games..
We have to kill them at the bridge , we can beat them but we have to work a lot until that they.We got the hardest draw in my opinion,with great win ,we can get back our spirit in EUROPE.
Look at JUVE last game,they were playing well
All I have to say is Scolari sell Malouda and Ferriera and use the money to get a top class winger(Cappel, Rakitic, Toni Kroos(loan move), Lukas Podolski) and in the summer get Bastian Schweinsteiger . Also I do not believe we should sell Anelka but you must play Drogba and Anelka together or else we will not be going to the finals. It’s an ultimatum play Drogba you win have him on the bench you lose. We need Drogba. Blues 4 live.
we must start to use Kalou in his natural position – Striker
buy Schweinsteiger
** we will need proper squad rotation to get the youths involved. we dont need alot of improvement just the right tactics and approve play
therefore after summer the chelsea MF would look like this:
————————————————-Mikel——————-
Essien/Sinclair/stoch—————-Lampard/Ballack————-Schweinsteiger/J. Cole/Rakitic/Deco
—————————-Podolski/Anelka——–Drogba/Di Santo/ Kalou———————–
I hate the way Scolari is plaing the back for 4 ….. same back 4 every match … weather or not a player is out of form.. Bosingwa’s form is down, therefore Ferrira should play a bit, a rote Bridge and Cole…. Bridge is the best crosser of the ball we have..
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There have been times when I’ve called for calm, harmony and unity and have still seen commenters behave like all hell has broken loose. Even then, I didn’t do that because I thought I have a responsibility or something. I just give my opinions just like you all do. I’m a very normal fan. I don’t lead anyone. I just happen to have a blog. I have my own opinions and some of them very strong. I don’t agree that I have more responsibility than any one of you, when it comes to matters concerning football. We are all free to express our opinions in a cultured manner. In a group of Chelsea fans, I don’t or don’t have to represent Chelsea FC, I’m just a man of my own views.
Since when comparing is unfair? In sports, in football, in every walk of life, comparisons are normal. When JM was in charge, he was compared left, right and centre with every manager on the planet. When JM was around, some of you (you know who) were comparing JM with Rijkaard, Klinsmann and even Schuster. Some even said we should sack JM and bring in Schuster. And I’m comparing my Chelsea’s current manager with the previous manager of my own club and not some Guardiola or Ramos. Like it or not, JM will be my standard that I would rate every Chelsea manager. Why is ‘comparing’ suddenly a sin when it comes to Scolari? I thought he is open to criticism by me as much as JM was open to criticism by you.
I said, in my eyes, JM is the best football manager alive. I stand by that statement. If Scolari and Jose made the same mistake, I’d pardon Jose and crucify Scolari. That’s called bias. That’s why when Lampard and Ballack are equally shite, some put more blame one than the other. That’s normal. I can’t be more candid than this.
Italian serie A ‘is’ inferior to premier league for various reasons. They don’t have too many foreign players. With diversity comes variety and competition. Also, I believe, alongwith various Man Utd and Arsenal blogs, that the premier league benchmark was raised by JM. He raised the bar, certainly, when it comes to what’s acceptable and what’s not. Wait for JM to raise the bar in Italy. If he stays there for three seasons, he would make his mark. That’s irrespective of if he wins anything or not.
I like Scolari. I want him to succeed. I want him to succeed because his success is intertwined with that of Chelsea. If I’m not happy with Scolari’s methods, I’m gonna say it out. Haven’t we had arguments and discussions in this blog when we had Jose Mourinho and Avram Grant? What has changed now?
Like someone said, JM would become the manager of Man Utd. Most of the Man Utd fans are looking forward to that. Wait to see how they idolise him and make a new legend out of him. The press would continue its red bias and portray a new image of the same man. And yes, I’ll wish him well even if he becomes the manager of Man Utd as much as I would for Damien Duff, Gianfranco Zola, Arjen Robben, Shaun Wright Phillips, Pizarro, Avram Grant, Lassana Diarra, Claudio Ranieri, Claude Makelele, Glen Johnson, Hernan Crespo etc. It’s just that I think I like and owe JM more than anyone else in the list.
On a very topical note, my views on the knockout stage draws:
Villareal has too much quality not win this tie against Panathinaikos. I’m happy for Bayern that they got Sporting Lisbon. All other things being equal, they should make it. Atletico are playing really well now. The Aguerro-Forlan duo will take them through. Barcelona will have no trouble in getting past Lyon. Real Madrid vs Liverpool is a very even tie. With all the injured players returning in time plus new signings, I think Real Madrid could pip through in front of the kops. Arsenal vs Roma is also a very tight match. If Arsenal don’t win the first leg at home, they’ll go out. Going by current European form, I’d put my money on Roma. Inter vs Man Utd is a fantastic match which could go anyway. JM’s teams are always difficult to beat. JM has beaten Sir Alex once in the champions league but this time I think Sir Alex’s Man Utd will prevail over JM’s Inter. Man Utd has a definite edge in quality and experience. Chelsea will have a very tough opponent in Juventus. But the we could be a more settled and stronger unit under a learned manager by February. We’ll go through with a goalles draw at home and a score draw at Stadio Olimpico.
So, I guess it would be Chelsea, Man Utd, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Roma, Villareal, Bayern and Atletico in the quarter finals. All these are based on the way it stands now and the probable changes by February. It makes sense to make a new set of predictions as we get closer to the first leg.
Carrying on with the Jose discussion, lot of us ( including me ) seem to be happy when the team trashes a relegation side 5-0 etc .. But after some thought. Lets look at some of the famous wins in Jose’s era – 4-2 , against Barca , which was considered the best in the world ,3-1 win against Man U at Old Trafford. After losing the CL semi finals to the ghost goal, we trashed Liverpool , 4 – 1 at anfield , 3-0 win against Man U at Bridge, 4-2 win against Bayern Munich at Bridge . These are wins that really matter.
With half the season gone, we haven’t manage to score more than 1 goals against good quality sides and never score more than 1 goal against CL team away from home.. Lets see what response we have , when we visit Old Trafford, Anfield and Emirates..
Scolari says: “I believe my player and if he came to me and said I don’t give interview, I don’t need to answer about this. If he doesn’t give an interview for this and some newspaper writes something, I need to believe my players. He is happy, yesterday he came and said ‘I didn’t give the interview’. The club has a contract with all of us and it respects that, and the players respect that contract, only this. Peter Kenyon has said many times now, we don’t sell players and we don’t buy players. Finished. Peter is my boss, and this is the philosophy.”
So Alex stays. Sense of relief to be honest. I like that guys Alex. We should keep him but if we don’t use him enough he could be out in the summer if not now. Be it training or the match, Terry and Carvalho are fearless and committed defenders and that’s why they do get injured little too often. So it helps to have players like Alex and Ivanovic as back ups.
[quote comment="61289"][quote comment="61272"]Its not that we need mourinho back at any cost; He simply serves as a minimum level of qualification for any Chelsea-football-coach if he wants to really achieve something at Chelsea and make this club successful! Thats why we mention his name so much. coz´LFS and AG haven´t been up to his standards…..[/quote]
If he is the minimum level of qualification, then I would say very few or may be no one will qualify . even fergie took around 5 season to win EPL once. I would say AG is the minimum level, atleast reach the finals . Definitely not existing out of the fourth or fifth round..[/quote]
yea, you could say that, but we know in football that, almost there means we were never there!!! So its the trophies that count in the end. AG could win nothing thats why history will forget him. And yea, very few will qualify for this job, and therefore that would make our club special.
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Ahh the Inter fan again. Yes Mourinho is a Chelsea legend, but im curious to know, what standards are you talking about? Trophies? Last time I checked they hand out the trophies at the end of the season..wait till then before you start judging anyones “standards”. Still dont understand why you care so much if your a Jose/Inter fan tho.
Incase everyone forgets, Scolaris only spent 8 mill on the squad. When mourinho joined he spent over 1oo mill in his first season. Give Scolari that much money and see what he would do with it before you guys judge him. Give Scolari Duff and Robben instead of Malouda and Kalou (both Jose’s purchases) and see what he would do.
Jose was a master tactician but buying players and judging players abilities and potential was NOT his strong point. The amount of money he spent on flop signings was ridiculous (and im not counting Sheva since he was Romans purchase). His flawed signings were one of the reasons why our squad is so unbalanced now. Joses only good signings have been RC, Drogs and Essien.
Remember Jose worshippers, he was the one that wanted Ben Haim over Alex! And Kezman over Rooney![/quote]
So you mean we need to spend another 100million to lift another trophy. Its funny that on one hand you say guys like us never knew chelsea before RA, and on the other hand you want us to spend millions again. Sounds like a hipocrite to me, or you simply don´t know what you are talking about.
Plz. understand, the current squad doesn´t needs to prove itself, they already have done that in past years. And they are not old yet. So think before you talk. This was the squad which never lost at home for past 4 years, and now suddenly when we cannot even win a game against relegation battlers, you tell me that its because Scolari didn´t have millions to spend? Doesn´t that sound ridiculous?
@72 mate we’re not buying! Bastian and Lucas can’t get a spot in first team. Fabio Paim??? Where is he now?
My view on CL draw: Juventus is disastrous for us at the moment. Lost our winning mentality. This is going to be a defining moment for our entire season. Our form aside, there’s nothing the boys can’t handle given that they get their act together. I pray that Scolari listens to JT, Lampard or anybody! that his magical attractive football isn’t working. Seriously, If Steve Clarke was still with us, he’d tell Scolari how his screwing us up. If we’re ever going to get far in the CL then we need a master tactician. I don’t see that in Scolari. If only Mourinho was still here *sigh*
a lil beef goin on in here lol
all that is history blue-mates
lets look forward. am really eager to se if we have made an adjustment to our system for the game on monday. Everton are good but lately they have had problems wit lots of injuries. But they play good at home. The disappointment I felt after our last game is over now do to the championsleague draw. Am really excited to se chelsea on the pitch again. Hopefully all this sloppy play of late will be history and we can make a run. I look positiv at it, its better we have the dip now then come crunch time in april.
I hope LFS involves more players, then we have seen soo far, in the starting 11. Then if he needs to make a major change at some point he have players who are retrained in the system. We gotta use the huge squad to our advantage. Plus that will push the “untouchables” like lampsy anelka JT both coles to bast themself even harder to stay on top of their games. NIC stated that he will do what ever it takes to make it work for him and drogs to start games. thats sound really good. and i think now that drogs have to prove himself that he’s chelseas nr 1 only gonna make him better and it will fo shoo bring out the best of drogba.
come on you chelsea
LFS is wasting his time and our time. he is poor and he’s not going to leave until he completely humiliates us and strips us of all records. LFS has never been a great winner. yes he won the world cup. even i’d have led that brazil team to the world cup. he had a great team and all that he had to do was to maintain their focus and concentration for 7 or 8 games over a period of 1 month. that’s all.
6m pounds a year is a waste of money. he’s useless. he is a failure when it comes to tactics. anybody can beat chelsea now. yes, anybody can beat chelsea now.
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So you mean we need to spend another 100million to lift another trophy. Its funny that on one hand you say guys like us never knew chelsea before RA, and on the other hand you want us to spend millions again. Sounds like a hipocrite to me, or you simply don´t know what you are talking about.
Plz. understand, the current squad doesn´t needs to prove itself, they already have done that in past years. And they are not old yet. So think before you talk. This was the squad which never lost at home for past 4 years, and now suddenly when we cannot even win a game against relegation battlers, you tell me that its because Scolari didn´t have millions to spend? Doesn´t that sound ridiculous?[/quote]
You forgot Jose last season with us? 2-0 loss to Aston villa? 0-0 with blackburn and fulham? Our squad definitely needs to improve. We dont have the Duff and Robben. We could use wingers and a new striker.
And BlueChampion, its good to see you admitted that you have double standards when it comes to managers. You said it yourself that you wont slate Jose but you will curse Scolari if they both made the same mistake. If that is the case my friend, why arent you supporting Inter? You hate scolari that much? You will cheer Jose on even when hes in Man Utd? So your saying you would cheer on the manager of our main premiership rivals? You would put the love of Jose over the love of your club? You would want Jose to do well (meaning in return we dont do well). Im sorry but those are the words of a Jose fan not a Chelsea supporter, and unfortuantely the two dont go hand in hand anymore.
I wish all these fanboys on this site would just get over it! Jose is gone and hes not coming back! His heart is with another club now. Yes he was great with us and YES he did make mistakes with us aswell. If you guys cant convince yourself that Chelsea Football Club still exists after Jose, then your not a real supporter.
[quote comment="61297"]Carrying on with the Jose discussion, lot of us ( including me ) seem to be happy when the team trashes a relegation side 5-0 etc .. But after some thought. Lets look at some of the famous wins in Jose’s era – 4-2 , against Barca , which was considered the best in the world ,3-1 win against Man U at Old Trafford. After losing the CL semi finals to the ghost goal, we trashed Liverpool , 4 – 1 at anfield , 3-0 win against Man U at Bridge, 4-2 win against Bayern Munich at Bridge . These are wins that really matter.
With half the season gone, we haven’t manage to score more than 1 goals against good quality sides and never score more than 1 goal against CL team away from home..
Lets see what response we have , when we visit Old Trafford, Anfield and Emirates..[/quote]
I agree what you a 110 %….. only time will tell, lets wait and see
Denver stop talking about Podolski and Bastian. they had one good tournament That is that. They are average in the GB which means they are inferior to Malouda and Kalou who are average in EPL. Also Bastian signed a contract extension 5 days ago.
“I cried the day Roman fired him! Yes, Jose Mourinho was the Special One. Since he left, Chelsea hasn’t been as special. Since Clarke left, Chelsea has been ordinary at best.”
So just out of curiosity BC, it isn’t your difference in opinion that I am abusing… it’s the fact that you made such a ridiculous comment in this particular line. Please tell me where we have played ordinary at best? I just don’t get it!
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6m pounds a year is a waste of money. he’s useless. he is a failure when it comes to tactics. anybody can beat chelsea now. yes, anybody can beat chelsea now.[/quote]
We talk about Jose spending 100 MM . Did Jose earn 6 MM pounds at Chelsea . I doubt that ..
[quote comment="61305"]LFS is wasting his time and our time. [/quote]
He is not wasting him time. He is earning good money , which he would have never earned in Portugal or ecevn brazil. They used to pay him around 1.2 MM . On top of that he has bought a family member as his assistant coach. That is the worst assistant coach , I have seen in the whole of EpL. from starting to end, he is sitting on the bench with hands folded..
ChelseaChelsea @ 81
Yes that was my admission. Every single one of us have double standards. Some admit, some don’t. I admit. Did I say I’d ‘curse’ Scolari? Please read it again. What do you mean by ‘why aren’t you supporting Inter’? Tell me why aren’t you supporting Tottenham, why aren’t you supporting Real Madrid? Why aren’t you supporting Bayern Munich? Makes no sense, these type of questions. Did I say I’d cheer Jose? Please read it again. You would even wish your opponent well, if you have the courtest and respect. I have them both, so I’d wish him well. Wishing someone well does not equate to supporting or ‘cheering’ as you call it. I very well know Jose is not coming back. I even know that, in his own words, he’d love to kill Chelsea if he gets a chance.
And please, don’t even preach people about what is it being a true supporter and all that. If we try to think like a mature person without getting into these girly fights (‘if you like me, you’re not supposed to like her’ lol), this would be a much better place.
Can you just look back and check why are we having this whole debate? Just quickly try to find that. Let me help you. I’ll tell you how did it all start. I said we wasted a great chance to top the table, by drawing at home against a West Ham, that’s highly beatable. I made a reference about JM’s triple substitution that made Inter score two goals in the last 20 mins. I said that Scolari does not turn matches like that, be it with subs or with tactics. Of course, Inter had better depth, because unlike, they don’t mind having a large squad. Even if Scolari was in charge of Inter, I doubt if he’d have a powerful triple sub to change the game. The response from TBF for this, was in very bad taste and that spurred on the debate.
I wish we had discussed about the tactical prowess of Scolari here, because that was the very point I was trying to make. For people like TBF, ‘anyone vs jose’ is the favourite topic. Most of their contribution to the discussion revolves around why ‘anyone’ is better than Jose. Just like I take pleasure in Jose’s success, they take pleasure in his failure (you need to admit this TBF lol). So this turned into something else. Why don’t we talk about how much Scolari has learnt and improved or how much Chelsea has improved under Scolari in the first half of a season?
[quote comment="61314"]“I cried the day Roman fired him! Yes, Jose Mourinho was the Special One. Since he left, Chelsea hasn’t been as special. Since Clarke left, Chelsea has been ordinary at best.”
So just out of curiosity BC, it isn’t your difference in opinion that I am abusing… it’s the fact that you made such a ridiculous comment in this particular line. Please tell me where we have played ordinary at best? I just don’t get it![/quote]
LOL Vinton Lindo! That was NOT my comment and I did NOT cry when JM was fired. It was Johnarejr who said it. In fact, I knew that he was going to be fired. It was not even a shock for me. It was coming for many months. The FA Cup win only delayed it.
wooh it’s hotting up!
JM has beaten Sir Alex many times. the below is from my memory
with Porto in Champions league quarters
with Chelsea in his first game for Chelsea at Old Trafford
with Chelsea in Carling cup quarters
with Chelsea in FA cup finals
with Chelsea to win the title at Stamford Bridge (shook hands with Fergie with 2 mins to go in stoppage time :-)
anybody thinks Scolari would outwit Fergie so many times in the next three years? let this not be a JM vs LFS debate. just wanted to know if you think LFS would outwit SAF as many times?
@78. Michael guy Lucas is a great player and anytime he plays he scores or makes a positive contribution… that what we need “workhorses” unlike Malouda and and other underperformed.
Guys I have been reviewing the game we played with West ham. and I have concluded that we were hard done by by two very poor ref judgments namely ASSHOLE Mike Rile
-that hand ball i the box therefore Bellamy goal should not have happened
- the penalty on Lampard
So lets bounce back from those bad results !!
up chelsea!!
vinton lindo – Your long comment is in moderation because it was in CAPS. Please don’t post in all CAPS.
[quote comment="61321"]wooh it’s hotting up!
JM has beaten Sir Alex many times. the below is from my memory
with Porto in Champions league quarters
with Chelsea in his first game for Chelsea at Old Trafford
with Chelsea in Carling cup quarters
with Chelsea in FA cup finals
with Chelsea to win the title at Stamford Bridge (shook hands with Fergie with 2 mins to go in stoppage time :-)
anybody thinks Scolari would outwit Fergie so many times in the next three years? let this not be a JM vs LFS debate. just wanted to know if you think LFS would outwit SAF as many times?[/quote]
hey it was in the carling cup semi final. the first round at bridge was a draw, we defeated them at old trafford , score was 2-1.. in jose first season, he defeated man u , three times and drew once.
LFS has already lost once to fergie in club worldcup at 1999 and drew with chelsea.. guys , here we start the tough away schedule with everton and next month it will be man u , liverpool and villa..
Scolari must change his tactics or we will not win anything.JUVENTUS is a great team that is at their best at the moment. AMONG OF CHELSEA FANS THERE IS NO CONFIDENCE AND RESPECT FOR SCOLARI.
FANS LIKE GRANT MORE THAN HIM ,BECAUSE HE MADE US HAPPY MANY TIMES LAST YEAR.
SCOLARI NEED TO GAIN RESPECT BY BEATING TOP TEAMS.
By beating Siena 2-1, Inter claim their EIGHTH consecutive league victory and ensure they have a comfortable lead (9 points) ahead of Serie A’s three-week winter break. After the match Jose Mourinho said: “We didn’t deserve to win this match. We had fantastic spirit (while) not playing well, not playing better than the opposition. You have to win some games like this to win the championship.”
This is Antonio. I’m an fan of FC Internazionale. I’m not a fan of Chelsea or English football but I’m a football fan. That’s why I read all the websites of all clubs. I’ll keep bringing you news from Italy, from your ex-boss.
See you soon. If Juve or Napoli lose points tomorrow, I will come back here with more news.
53. Vinton Lindo. Three things and I will move on. #1. What has Chelsea WON since Mourinho left? #2. Up until our recent game against Liverpool, who else has gone undefeated on their home pitch since 2004? #3. Did you not read the rest of my post? Let me put it in large print for you (post #40): “PHIL, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE DIFFERENT. THAT’S OKAY. BUT I EXPECT YOU TO MANAGE THE TEAM IN A WAY THAT PRODUCES CONFIDENCE, PERCISION, AND VICTORIES.” No, one more question, WHO DIED AND MADE YOU THE JUDGE OF MY FAN LOYALTY BASED ON HALF OF WHAT I’VE SAID ON ONE POST?
Everton awaits. We all want the same result. A CHELSEA VICTORY!
BC, I hope I didn’t use too many caps. If so, I will re-post with fewer caps.
[quote comment="61318"]ChelseaChelsea @ 81
Yes that was my admission. Every single one of us have double standards. Some admit, some don’t. I admit. Did I say I’d ‘curse’ Scolari? Please read it again. What do you mean by ‘why aren’t you supporting Inter’? Tell me why aren’t you supporting Tottenham, why aren’t you supporting Real Madrid? Why aren’t you supporting Bayern Munich? Makes no sense, these type of questions. Did I say I’d cheer Jose? Please read it again. You would even wish your opponent well, if you have the courtest and respect. I have them both, so I’d wish him well. Wishing someone well does not equate to supporting or ‘cheering’ as you call it. I very well know Jose is not coming back. I even know that, in his own words, he’d love to kill Chelsea if he gets a chance.
And please, don’t even preach people about what is it being a true supporter and all that. If we try to think like a mature person without getting into these girly fights (‘if you like me, you’re not supposed to like her’ lol), this would be a much better place.
Can you just look back and check why are we having this whole debate? Just quickly try to find that. Let me help you. I’ll tell you how did it all start. I said we wasted a great chance to top the table, by drawing at home against a West Ham, that’s highly beatable. I made a reference about JM’s triple substitution that made Inter score two goals in the last 20 mins. I said that Scolari does not turn matches like that, be it with subs or with tactics. Of course, Inter had better depth, because unlike, they don’t mind having a large squad. Even if Scolari was in charge of Inter, I doubt if he’d have a powerful triple sub to change the game. The response from TBF for this, was in very bad taste and that spurred on the debate.
I wish we had discussed about the tactical prowess of Scolari here, because that was the very point I was trying to make. For people like TBF, ‘anyone vs jose’ is the favourite topic. Most of their contribution to the discussion revolves around why ‘anyone’ is better than Jose. Just like I take pleasure in Jose’s success, they take pleasure in his failure (you need to admit this TBF lol). So this turned into something else. Why don’t we talk about how much Scolari has learnt and improved or how much Chelsea has improved under Scolari in the first half of a season?[/quote]
Il tell you why im not supporting Bayern or Tottenham or any other club. Its because i dont think of their coaches as a semi-god like some people here. You admitting to your double standards means that you will slate Scolari even if he does well. Just as you were saying that people here take happiness from Jose’s losses, im sure you dont want Scolari to succeed just so you and the other jose fan boys can tell us how good jose is and how shite chelsea is. its THAT kind of sentiment im talking about, where so called chelsea FANS get happy when chelsea loses and inter win on matchdays so they can blabber on about their god. Like you said, Jose wants to KILL us in his own words when he meets us in CL. I wonder who youl be supporting then? My guess is the winning team. Good day
@97 ChelseaChelsea you’ve got it all wrong mate! Look at the current state of our team! It’s a shambles and the only reason why people compare LFS to Mourinho is because of the simple fact that our best days were under him. You can’t take that away from Mourinho, not yet. So until LFS proves that his a worthy manager then i’ll keep blasting him and comparing him to Mourinho.
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Is this the chelsea blog or a JM blog?
It has been 2 years to post JM era and 6 months into Lfs. I too believe Jose was the best thing to happen to us. But guys he has left us. Please move on. LFS is now the chelsea coach. Comment on chelsea, abuse LFS( for our recent performance ) , or praise him (for the beautiful football), express your views on the tactics. But please comment on chelsea!!!!!!!
People on the other blog dont mourn over JM as you do. Please talk substance.
BC, dude do u seriously believe that u dont influence anybody?? this blog is the media source for quite a lot of fans, ur articles are like the headlines of a newspaper, half the ppl here are Mourinho era fans, when u keep posting stuff abt Jose in every other line it wld not affect them?? its like saying somebody is reading the newspaper, the front page but dosent get even a tiny bit influenced by the reports, dont you?? i seriously doubt it.
to the others, did Scolari get a 100 mn warchest before his campaign?? no, did he even get to sign the players he wanted?? no, how many players did Scolari purchase?? 1, so how do you expect this side to win the champs league, which Jose never got us, or the EPL, which we have not won for 2 years(1 yr even under Jose), the fact is that Jose got rid of the future of Chelsea, young players like Robben, Johnson, Huth were sold who wld have been great squad players in the least, experienced wily campaigners like Gudjohnsen, Gallas and Duff too were put out and never properly replaced , i dont blame Jose for letting some go, but what did he bring in return?? SWP, Boula, Del Horno, Sidwell, Ferreira, Malouda, Kalou, all jokes, now the core that Ranieri got is getting old, yes JT, Lamps, Drogs, does LFS have any pacy, creative, youth at his disposal?? no all he has is 30 year olds who have all passed the best years of their careers, Scolari needs to get to spend and that too heavily, and offload almost half the team, buy new young players and start a new Chelsea, only then can we expect this worn out team to be a force to be reckoned with again!!
ChelseaChelsea – You’re free to assume whatever you want, about me. I’m not planning to even respond to you.
Yes joeblue, I don’t think I ‘influence’. People have their own opinions and that’s why we have discussions and arguments. Do you honestly think I keep posting about JM every other line? Do you mean it man? Have you been reading the blog lately?
To say that JM got rid of Chelsea’s youth is wrong comment. I could answer in detail but we would only get into a off-topic discussion like we have so far. The blame on the failure to produce/acquire youth talent should go to Frank Arnesen and the dozens of scouts who drew nothing. No wonder all those scouts have been sacked. As a youth player there are very few reasons to join Chelsea ahead of other clubs. That’s a very long discussion in itself.
I don’t think Scolari was in any disadvantage when he took over from Avram Grant. He got a team that lost the league by 2 points and was 2 seconds away from winning the champions league. From there on, it was all Scolari. He chose to leave a few players. He added Bosingwa (we all know it was LFS’s buy though LFS’s appointment was formally announced only later) and Deco. At the start of the season, it was all blue and bright!
I don’t think Scolari needs to spend heavily on this squad. No way. RA spent those millions early on as a new Chelsea team was being built. Now, we have a world class team so I don’t expect Scolari to be given another 100 mn, especially given the current economic conditions. There is no need to start a new Chelsea. Maintain the Chelsea that exists, which was grudgingly respected by our opponents.
Okay, let’s just talk about Felipao. LFS had two months of transfer window when he joined Chelsea. He had Cech and Cudicini on goal. He’s got Terry, Carvalho, Alex, Ashley Cole, Bosingwa and Ivanovic in defence. He had Ballack, Lampard, Mikel, Makelele, Essien and Belletti in midfield. He had Drogba, Anelka, Malouda, Kalou, Joe Cole and Franco di Santo in attack. You think he need a lot of money to make this squad better? I think I can get into football management then. Given our riches in the midfield, why was LFS particular that he bought Deco? Why wasn’t he trying to buy a winger (apart from Robinho which he was already chasing)? He could have offloaded Malouda and got a good Portuguese/Brazilian winger who can dribble well. He opted to retain Malouda and Kalou, for some reason.
Do you think what Scolari has now achieved is the best a manager could achieve, given the players and resources? LFS is a world champion so we can compare him to anyone including SAF. So do you think what Scolari has now achieved is the best a manager could achieve, given the players and resources?
I agree with Chelsito. Let’s move on from the JM era. I have. But that does not mean LFS will not be compared to JM or even AG. I would continue to compare our current manager with our earlier managers (including Jose Mourinho, of course) as I find that absolutely normal.
I dont agree with the one who said jose cant understand the strength and weaknesses of players.who was Lampard before jose comes? he was an average. but he is now world class.(i think he is the best MF in the world when u consider the whole of last 4 year or so .Lampard was able to score 20 or more goals every season.how many strikers achieved that in last 4 years?.henry?-no
etoo?-no
Drogba?-no
roneey?-no
owen?-no
ibra?-no
Kaka?-no
ronaldinho?-no
van nistel rooy ?-no
then who?)
who was terry b4 he comes?now he is a world class(he is the only player who is in the list of world team of the year for the last 4 years).who wap Drogba ? Now he is the nightmare of defenders.
So, thats just rubbish.
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The style of jose is, not to allow the opponent to play their game against the big teams.so ,they will get frustated .then his team can snatch the win.LFS is not like that he want to play his football,when the opponents manager thinks like jose thinks we cant play our game .them they can take the result they wanted.
Hand no heart,
i want LFS to succeed more than jose did.cos i love Chelsea more than anyone… ..anything
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BC man even if u compare him to SAF, remember, the most sucessful EPL coach did not win the Premier League for 5 years, and after the yooth products were sufficiently developed and put into the team we all know what they have achieved, u blame Arnesen but still i blame Jose, its not like we havent had talented youngsters but where they given any chance??
GK Jose did absolutely nothing in this department except for getting in a 3rd string pretty old Hilarious.
LB, Bridge, he is not our academys product but hey he was 22-23 when he came to Chelsea i think, Jose bought Del Horno, played Gallas there, bought A.Cole finally when a solid left back was standing in front of him, he never cared.
RB Johnson was never given a proper run out, one day he was in the team the other day he dint feature at all, then he was sent on a loan spell here and there, look at him at Pompey, yes now we have Bosingwa but before him for the past 4-5 years we havent had a proper RB, sometimes Gallas, sometimes silly Ferreira, that joker Boula and poor Essien.
CB we had Huth and Gallas in our hands we sold them both, bought no replacements in the summer, Jose said no to Alex coming in, and the rest is history, we lost the title because of this mistake
CM if u blame Arnesen and co for not getting talented youngsters whom are u gonna put the signings on?? while Ranieri got us Cole, Robben and Duff on the wings what did Jose bring in?? crap like Malouda and a clown like Kalou, wow, did Sinclair get a chance?? no, infact Robben and Duff were sold while J.Cole was being asked to defend, brilliant, we let a talent like Diarra go because Jose wld rather buy some multi mn pound guy than use what he has on his hands.The only player who was a sucess under him (bought by him) in midfield was Essien.
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BC man even if u compare him to SAF, remember, the most sucessful EPL coach did not win the Premier League for 5 years, and after the yooth products were sufficiently developed and put into the team we all know what they have achieved, u blame Arnesen but still i blame Jose, its not like we havent had talented youngsters but where they given any chance??
GK Jose did absolutely nothing in this department except for getting in a 3rd string pretty old Hilarious.
LB, Bridge, he is not our academys product but hey he was 22-23 when he came to Chelsea i think, Jose bought Del Horno, played Gallas there, bought A.Cole finally when a solid left back was standing in front of him, he never cared.
RB Johnson was never given a proper run out, one day he was in the team the other day he dint feature at all, then he was sent on a loan spell here and there, look at him at Pompey, yes now we have Bosingwa but before him for the past 4-5 years we havent had a proper RB, sometimes Gallas, sometimes silly Ferreira, that joker Boula and poor Essien.
CB we had Huth and Gallas in our hands we sold them both, bought no replacements in the summer, Jose said no to Alex coming in, and the rest is history, we lost the title because of this mistake
CM if u blame Arnesen and co for not getting talented youngsters whom are u gonna put the signings on?? while Ranieri got us Cole, Robben and Duff on the wings what did Jose bring in?? crap like Malouda and a clown like Kalou, wow, did Sinclair get a chance?? no, infact Robben and Duff were sold while J.Cole was being asked to defend, brilliant, we let a talent like Diarra go because Jose wld rather buy some multi mn pound guy than use what he has on his hands.The only player who was a sucess under him (bought by him) in midfield was Essien.
ST Jose sold our legends Jimmy Floyd and Gudjohnsen, and since his arrival there is yet a striker to be found bought by him and doing well, the best he has got us is Kalou…lol
No doubt he was one of the best managers we have had, he was great at man-management, plus he cld make some very good decisions in topsy turvy games, but hell is far from the “greatest” manager, he has also destroyed the future of Chelsea, lets face it he was a quick-fix, Roman bought him in for instant sucess, which he delivered magnificently no doubt, but the cost was Chelsea’s future and so we are paying for it…
Zaneeb what a fool u are, who was John Terry before Jose came?? he was the first choice CB in our team, infact he got the armband whenever Desailly didnt feature and everybody with a teaspoonful of sense knew he wld be captain as soon as Desailly retired, Lampard was average before Jose came in?? are u out of your mind?? he was consistently in the team and was a very crucial player since 2003, yes he has become a much better player but to say he was nothing, i hate glory hunters and u my friend are one, u know nothing abt the club yet u come out and start posting stuff, shows your naivety and immaturity…
Zaneeb is right. Before Jose came, Lampard and Terry were above average players. They owe their current stardom to Jose Mourinho.
Even if I didn’t agree with Zaneeb, I wouldn’t call him a fool. For whatever little you know joeblue, you can’t be this arrogant and big headed. Empty vessels do make lot of noise.
ok sammy, very well done, the vice captain of the team was average and the man who scored 15 goals in the season was average, now applaud urself for ur amazing football knowldege…
oh and incase u new fans dont know, that year we came second, only the undefatable Arsenal were above us, lost in the semis of the Champions League to a Morientes hand ball goal, so obviously the first teamers, ViceCaptain Terry and 15 goals in a season Frank were totally crap…
@BC
No my comments weren’t in bad taste…they were sarcastic n unfortunately true.
I visit this blog almost as much as you visit…i just can’t cmmnt caus i access blog via cell n i don’t like droppin one liners.
Second,i don’t hate jose,i didn’t hate lampard n neither does it gives me pleasure to see him lose out of hatred.
I mentioned jose for the first time since quite some months caus i have had enough of jose worshippin that goes on n on once our team draws…
@BC
lol..again on moderation…for what?for daring to utter jose does loses at home
L. Fabiano or Arshavin?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/62797/Big-Phil-will-get-his-man
Seems like Roman has allowed LFS to buy someone. But I don’t think £20 would be enough for these players. Good, at least we can see some fresh blood.
He may not be “average”.
But he was not the Lampard of late.and jose converted him and others from good to great.even they will agree me on that.
When he was came Lampard was 26 not 19 or 20 .to upgrade a 26 year old player is not easy
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Lampard is an idiot,look at his comments : he said EPL in more important than CL.
HE IS LACK OF SPIRIT , HE THINKS JUVENTUS WILL DUMP US OUT.
THINK FIRST FRANKY:THEN OPEN YOUR MOUTH.
[quote comment="61422"]oh and incase u new fans dont know, that year we came second, only the undefatable Arsenal were above us, lost in the semis of the Champions League to a Morientes hand ball goal, so obviously the first teamers, ViceCaptain Terry and 15 goals in a season Frank were totally crap…[/quote]
Did I say there were ‘totally crap? Read it again. Is ‘Above average’ equal to ‘totally crap’?
[quote comment="61431"]When he was came Lampard was 26 not 19 or 20 .to upgrade a 26 year old player is not easy[/quote]
Fantastic point. Fully agree.
[quote comment="61412"]BC man even if u compare him to SAF, remember, the most sucessful EPL coach did not win the Premier League for 5 years, and after the yooth products were sufficiently developed and put into the team we all know what they have achieved, u blame Arnesen but still i blame Jose, its not like we havent had talented youngsters but where they given any chance??[/quote]
You talk about SAF being given 5 years to win trophies and allowed time to develop his team. Roman did not give this time for Ranieri or Jose or Grant. The only reason why Jose stayed for three seasons was because he won back to back titles. It’s not in Roman’s plan to give too much time and be patient. If Scolari is allowed that time, it would be unfair on Ranieri, Jose and Grant.
[quote comment="61412"]No doubt he was one of the best managers we have had, he was great at man-management, plus he cld make some very good decisions in topsy turvy games, but hell is far from the “greatest” manager, he has also destroyed the future of Chelsea, lets face it he was a quick-fix, Roman bought him in for instant sucess, which he delivered magnificently no doubt, but the cost was Chelsea’s future and so we are paying for it…[/quote]
The whole project of how to progress under the Blue Revolution was a collective plan among Roman, Kenyon and Jose. That’s why the lack of youth development cannot be attributed to Jose. In fact, Roman and Kenyon did not mind the lack of youth development. They could not have wanted everything. The back-to-back titles in the first two years did exceed their Roman/Kenyon expectations from the Blue Revolution project.
SCOLARI is a good tactitian.@euro 2004
england vs portugal.
Portugal were behind 1-0. at 75 SCOLARI subbed figo for postiga(who was a flop at spurs)figo was furious .commentators were surprised as the crowd)he brought on simao as well.
At 83rd minute a super cross from simao and portugal scored.and guess who? its postiga!!.
The game went on to extra time.portugal scored the second one through rui costa and england equalised through Lampard with 5 minuts left.
Portugal went on to win on penalties.
But i havnt see something same from SCOLARI in Chelsea yet .just yet!!
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Moving on, #110 Chesito’s reference does give some encoragement. I did see Arshavin play in the Euros. I’m not too familiar with Fabiano though. If indeed Chelsea gets either one in January, it could be a fine boost for the club.
My issue for now is that Scolari must make the best use of the players he has. Right now, I’m not satisfied that he has. I am hoping that against Everton, he will try a 4-4-2, start Drogba, and substitute whomever is being too unproductive.
now sorry to interrupt u two having a mutual applause, but since when did 26 year olds become difficult to get better?? if u have followed football(which i seriously doubt with ur every comment), players get better when they cross 26, infact the years between 26 and 30 are known as the PRIME years of any professionals career, Zidane got his FIFA world player of the year when he was over 30, Ronaldo got it when he was 26, Figo got it when he was abt 26 too i think, Cannavaro got one when he was 33, Nedved got the golden ball when he was over 30, look at Zidane, have u heard of a man called Cantona?? do u know he became one of the greatest players in the EPL , he joined Maanu when he was 26, how about Zidane, u must have heard of him?? he joined Madrid when he was 28 i think.
the best form and consistency of every players career comes usually only after 26, and the same happened with Lamps one can say that Jose was a bonus for his career but everything, even players professional cycle is Jose’s magic?? Absolutely Ridiculous stuff ppl can come up with man…
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1207/napoli/2008/12/21/1022433/chelsea-still-keen-on-napoli-starlet-hamsik-reports
BC what you talking about giving time to Grant? he would have destroyed the winning mentality that he inherited, the guy couldn’t managed a coffee bar, or for that matter to get the extra 10% from the players, so stop compariing AG to Scolari, one is a genius in football matter the other is a cone placer, blyming what comparisons, make me laugh.
Still early days.
Marek Hamsik
C’mon Chelsea Buy Now. :P
Manu wins the club world cup .Thanks to an 73rd min wayne rooney goal.
Vidic sent off at 49.
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BC, fair enough if you dont intend to reply to my comments, then I take it you do wish bad to Chelsea so as to have an opportunity to slate Scolari and praise the manager of Inter Milan. GL in the champions league hope you guys beat Man U.
“Ronaldo is better player after 26″-did u see him at inter and Barca
hats off 2 u , joe blue….hats off 2 u…….
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great matches to look forward to in the last 16s.
love,
http://wedontknowfootball.com/
[quote comment="61428"]L. Fabiano or Arshavin?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/62797/Big-Phil-will-get-his-man
Seems like Roman has allowed LFS to buy someone. But I don’t think £20 would be enough for these players. Good, at least we can see some fresh blood.[/quote]
He is wasting 20 MM – first of all, if he is genuinely needs a striker, buy someone who is atleast proven in EPL – Zaki. He is buying a striker, even without giving a start to Franco di santos.
[quote comment="61450"]BC what you talking about giving time to Grant? he would have destroyed the winning mentality that he inherited, the guy couldn’t managed a coffee bar, or for that matter to get the extra 10% from the players, so stop compariing AG to Scolari, one is a genius in football matter the other is a cone placer, blyming what comparisons, make me laugh.
Still early days.[/quote]
At the moment, they are comparable. One had maintained the home record, other has lost it thrice this season. One won against Man u, Arsenal and Liverpool at home, other lost against against arsenal and liverpool.
@97. johnarejr
1. You ask what has Chelsea won since Mourinho and I ask this…. when we were winning titles, were we suffering the loses of any of our big name players? No we were not. Use your logic, it has nothing to do with Mourinho at this point just due to the fact that we already have a winning mentality instilled within our team! The reason we have not won any trophies this season is simply due to be ravaged by injuries left and right. That is where the brunt of the problem lies! It seems every winter so far for the last two seasons we have lost the likes of Cech, Cudicini, Essien, Carvalho, Terry, Drogba, J.Cole, A. Cole, etc the list is enormous when considering that all these players are starters for the most part! Think about that. Now I was a Mourinho fan as well… however I grew to like him as I never though Ranieri should have been sacked to begin with. We won titles with Mourinho, no doubt, but like I said before… THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS MOURINHO IS NOT HERE! There is no use discussing what Mourinho is doing at Inter as well because quite frankly, Inter would be in the same position with Mancini anyway (do you forget they are 3x consecutive champions already!)
2. What is the point of your question? lmao After I made the comment to make sure that people understand that the record had to end at some point and that we still have the record, you ask a question like that? Makes no sense!
3. Your opinion was never important enough for me to read and judge because guess what… I NEVER KNEW YOU HAD AN ACCOUNT UP UNTIL NOW! So maybe you should go back to the drawing board you banwagon jumper! Your only a Chelsea fan because of Mourinho and the success he bought us recently. But that’s fine. Being a fan has to start somewhere, but what I don’t understand is how you are “calling me out” when I clearly made a comment on #80, NOT #40! So let me say this as clear as I can…
GET OFF OF MY NUTSACK!
AND A BLOODY ACCURATE STATEMENT BY 102. joeblue !!!!
GREAT POINT FROM ONE OF THE FEW REAL CHELSEA FANS ON THIS SITE!
hahaha actually I did make a comment on your stupidity. I thought that was a quote of something BC had said.
But I stand corrected… and stand by my opinion in stating that YOU ARENOT A REAL CHELSEA FAN!
Please tell us why you are a Chelsea fan!? What made you a Chelsea fan? When you became a Chelsea fan? Who your all time favorite Chelsea player is?
For God sake, tell us something? But then again there is probably nothing because your a ban wagon jumper and if Manchester City is successful you’ll probably be over there too! Well… if that is the case, thank God, becasue we don’t need “fans” like you on this side anyway!
[quote comment="61473"]hahaha actually I did make a comment on your stupidity. I thought that was a quote of something BC had said.
But I stand corrected… and stand by my opinion in stating that YOU ARENOT A REAL CHELSEA FAN!
Please tell us why you are a Chelsea fan!? What made you a Chelsea fan? When you became a Chelsea fan? Who your all time favorite Chelsea player is?
For God sake, tell us something? But then again there is probably nothing because your a ban wagon jumper and if Manchester City is successful you’ll probably be over there too! Well… if that is the case, thank God, becasue we don’t need “fans” like you on this side anyway![/quote]
You mean to be a Chelsea fan you must be born 50 years ago and know all its history? Is there some sort of examination to qualify to be a chelsea fan? Isn´t a fan a person who admires someone and something dearly?
i really feel like laughing at stupid people like you.
this is a fan site and whatever anyone says, wishes well for Chelsea. I don´t understand why people make it so personal as if they own the club.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=27017&part=sports
ars vs. lpool
[quote comment="61476"][quote comment="61473"]For God sake, tell us something? But then again there is probably nothing because your a ban wagon jumper and if Manchester City is successful you’ll probably be over there too! Well… if that is the case, thank God, becasue we don’t need “fans” like you on this side anyway![/quote]
You mean to be a Chelsea fan you must be born 50 years ago and know all its history? Is there some sort of examination to qualify to be a chelsea fan? Isn´t a fan a person who admires someone and something dearly?[/quote]
Yes being a fan does have to do with admiring something dearly! But in respect to that team you admire dearly comes a certain way you carry yourself! How can one criticize another on their opinion when that particular other has been around with this team before their successes! THERE IS NOTHING I HATE MORE THAN PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE FANS WHEN THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE TEAM THEY SUPPORT! If you’re going to be a fan of Chelsea after our recent successes then make a God damn effort to know things about the club you support! Otherwise you can’t truly be a fan, can you?
guess vinton lindo and joeblue are one and the same.
we should give scolari what he’s due. there’s nothing wrong in comparing scolari with jose mourinho. guys, scolari is doing no charity here. he nets a cool 6 mn pounds a year even if Chelsea is to be relegated. his retirement fund is created already. i would continue to appraise scolari by whatever means.
great comments by BC. completely agree with every word of yours! sad that there are too many 10-year olds here who can’t understand certain stuff.
@ I wasMissingJose
and for the record… actually I am 20 years of age and I have been with Chelsea since Vialli. I was about 11 or 12 when I started supporting Chelsea. Albeit I started supporting them because my mothers side of the family are all Liverpool fans and I had a particular liking for the color blue. I saw Zola play one of the best games I’ve seen from a blue against Liverpool when he scored an incredible free kick which in the same year we went on to win the F.A. Cup versus Middlesbrough!
THAT IS WHAT FANHOOD IS ABOUT!!! Not jumping on board when a team is finally over the hump and having great success and then attempting to berate the real fans who have been paying attention and praying for this type of success with your invalid opinions! That is why I posted what I did to him (AND NOT YOU!) so we can find out how deeply into Chelsea that scab really is! Stop defending or fighting another mans war of words and do him a favor and let him do it himself!
@120 sammy
hahahaha one and the same. chances are we’re not… go look me up on facebook or something. have nothing to do with that man but real fans do think alike! Sad part is most fake fans also think alike. No one is saying not to get on Scolari’s back when results should go our way but at the same time stop being a glory dweller that you make yourself out to be and support your club so we CAN get back on track. Of course you won’t support them because your probably exactly that… a glory hunter looking for the next great success to jump on. But hey, don’t worry, if Man. City can get their act together you can be their false fan soon! Nothing more than fans who live in the past and weren’t saying anything when we were drubbing teams by goals to nil and all about the glory, but as soon as the going gets tough they want to sack yet another manager!
See, the thing you glory hunters don’t understand is that success doesn’t come instantly! It has to be worked on, constructed and made sure that the kinks are all gone (so to speak)! We have a tremendous coach with a wealth of experience who is not going to snap his fingers and make us champions again, especially considering the fact that it seems every week we have a key player missing! And if one continues to sack manager after manager because they don’t bring us instant success it will be detrimental to the club at present and potentially the long term. But you see, that is the thing about ban wagon jumpers… they are only here for the instant successes and are therefore inpatient when it comes to letting things develop. Once things turn into what might seem to be hard times, they immediately want to either spend more big bucks on players to “fix” the problem or they want to sack the manager ahahaaaa what ridiculousness.
So called fans who’s names consist of “IwasMissingJose” suggest, at least to me and plenty of other real fans on this site that people like this individual I am writing about as well as Sammy are not Chelsea fans through and through. You are rather leeches! Please, IwasMissingJose, let us all know when your first Chelsea game was? or what made you become a Chelsea fan and all things of those nature! Haahahaa till then… good luck with your search for a new ban wagon to jump on… I here Inter is in pole position for some great trophies this year, you should look them up. Same goes for this sammy character who after comment 140 seems more like a conspiracy theorist to me hahahaha
Chelsea through and through, whether Mourinho or Scolari or whoever else takes the reigns. Whether Roman or without Roman! Whether 3rd place or champions, EPL or Tier 3… I WILL ALWAYS BE A BLUES FAN! Too bad some of us can’t say the same for all of you!
arsenal 1 liverpool 1
(HWebb may as well be a pool fan)
Luis Fellipe Scolari
You will not get another chance than this to go to the top of EPL again .. If you have questions, ring up Jose Mourinho and he will more than happy to help you with team selection for tomorrow ..Don’t be stupid and start with the same 4-1-4-1 . Play players by form and not favouritism.. don’t worry, no one will question you on your 8 MM signings. we have seem more costly one than that..
I WILL KILL SCOLARI WITH MY OWN HANDS IF WE COULD NOT WIN TOMORROW.
HEY GUYS DID YOU WATCH ROBBEN DRIBBLING VS VALENCIA,WE NEED A PLAYER LIKE THAT,
THERE IS ONLY ONE PIECE MISSING IN CHELSEA SQUAD AND ITS A DRIBBLING WINGER.
This is to all the real fans that I have respect for and their opinions whether they differ from my own to some degree or not. Those who display common sense as well as a true fans patience, but at the same time know that there are certain things that need to be fixed and put straight while not claiming we need some dramatic overhaul.
To true blues… these people are those who I’ve read and regard their opinions as valuable. And if your name isn’t up here then it doesn’t mean you aren’t a true Blue (with exceptions to IwasMissingJose & Sammy)
joeblue
johnarejr
BlueChampion (not at all times but does have key points when right)
cfc
trueplatinum
Oh My Blue (however only at times)
ish
just to name a few… stay blue guys, while the others colors fluctuate based on our success!
H webb tried his best to give liverpool the win.van persie s goal was sublime as well as robby s one.
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Good News
Mikel has been offered a new five-year contract worth £ 120,000. He currently earns a 80,000 a week. If he agrees which he is likely to, it will put him on the top earners list of Chelsea FC.
Chance to go on top of the table tomorrow. If we still top the table by the end of the year, we have a decent opportunity to win the league. Scolari has been working on different formation during the week. Hopefully, we are gonna see a bit different Chelsea play against Everton.
[quote comment="61497"]I WILL KILL SCOLARI WITH MY OWN HANDS IF WE COULD NOT WIN TOMORROW.
HEY GUYS DID YOU WATCH ROBBEN DRIBBLING VS VALENCIA,WE NEED A PLAYER LIKE THAT,
THERE IS ONLY ONE PIECE MISSING IN CHELSEA SQUAD AND ITS A DRIBBLING WINGER.[/quote]
so true… wonder which manager let him go because Robben wanted to leave to get more minutes elsewhere?
oh that’s right… it was Mourinho!
If Drogba doesn’t start and play all 90 minutes I’m gonna scream
The Toffees are in no mood to play attacking football ( and allow our midfielders to have some space). They are on a plan to park the bus even at goodison park.
http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1444/everton/2008/12/21/1022890/tim-cahil-well-take-a-draw-against-chelsea
Now that they are playing for a point we may well have to change our tactics from the W.Ham match. The need for the hour is an early goal. And i dont see this happening without Drogba & Anelka playing together. Hope, LFS starts them both.
This is our best chance to be back at the top. With everton hinting to play only for a point, this away match wont be cakewalk. Hope the players go for the kill with ‘anything for a win’ attitude.
Go chelsea!!!!!!!
[quote comment="61497"]I WILL KILL SCOLARI WITH MY OWN HANDS IF WE COULD NOT WIN TOMORROW.
HEY GUYS DID YOU WATCH ROBBEN DRIBBLING VS VALENCIA,WE NEED A PLAYER LIKE THAT,
THERE IS ONLY ONE PIECE MISSING IN CHELSEA SQUAD AND ITS A DRIBBLING WINGER.[/quote]
Robben is good player , but he misses more matches because of injury than he plays.. And yeah , he did a good dive, to send the valencia captain out..
@143. CFCIR
I saw the game the featured robban yesterday, and wat a game. really good one. and robban was soo good, that if it wouldnt have been for their wastful finishes by the strikers they would have trashed valencia. Madrids GK is amazing.
really looking forward to tomorrows game. hopefully we can take care of business and celebrate xmass as league leaders.
Stay well blue-mates
@Vinton Lindo
I´m going to start another verbal spat with you.
You were lucky to have lived somewhere near Stamford Bridge, and could have visited every Chelsea game. very unlike BC, who has visited Stamford Bridge only once, and me who hasn´t had that chance yet. For us this beautiful club was unknown before you know who.
who’s this vinton lindo? pathetic guy! talks like he owns chelsea fc. nonsense. who are you to decide who’s a true fan and who’s not. what are you doing here? you’ve become a chelsea fan this week because your new love man city is all set to go down? you gotta nice timing for jumping ships. give us a break!
[quote comment="61501"]so true… wonder which manager let him go because Robben wanted to leave to get more minutes elsewhere? oh that’s right… it was Mourinho![/quote]
what if robben’s not there. he’s a bloody cry baby. im happy to see the back of him. great player though. he wanted to go so he went out. that’s it. something like gallas. i have no regrets about players who left us after throwing a fit.
btw, why do you keep talking about jose even after every has started discussing about other things like todays arse-liv match and our match tomorrow? get over it. jose is not our manager anymore. get this into your head. talk about scolari.
144 Vinton Lindo. Maybe this sounds stupid to you. But, this is how I became a fan of Chelsea. In 2003, I sat down and saw my first full real football (known to Americans as soccer) match. It was not the quality of the EPL. But, I appreciated the lack of useless time-outs, the importantce of quick creativity, and that the sport is universal. Some of the guys in my workplace encouraged me to upgrade my satilite TV service so I could get the EPL games on Fox Soccer Channel. That was the first thing I did when I brought my home on Chelsea Road. Although I was encouraged by the fellas to join them in cheering Manchester United, I liked the play and potential in the Blues. I remember that 2003-04 season when Arsenal was beating everyone. I also remember Bridge sending the Gooners down in the Champion’s League. Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink scored a hat trick against Birmingham City the same day as the American SuperBowl. And I missed the bulk of that “World Championship” to watch the replay of the match.
Take the story for what it’s worth. I’m off your nuttsack!
Bosingwa was avram grants acquistion not scolari’s. Avram grant like having a bombing fullback as well thats why essien was played in that position over natural RB’s like belletti, ferriera and ivanovic. He bought bosingwa because daniel alves would cost them 30 million which chelsea did not want to spend on a RB.
Terry and lampard were always quality players even before mourinho came in, just like ashley young, barry and many other players playing at lower tier clubs are very good that fact is that chelsea did have alot of dead weight and this was fixed by buying makelele, carvalho, cech, drogba and essien. Once those acquisitions were made we won the league, robben, j.cole, duff and many others were bought and followed mourinho’s style of play using pacy wingers, strong defense and a strong target man to break on the counters and a free roaming centre(lampard) to shoot goals and back up the target man as well as provide assists.
Its basically the most mundane sure fire way to score goals and is used in international football alot but requires very strong defense and midfield which is why maka and essien were crucial and ballack to him was a liability.
Grant comes in and knows he cant do any major tweaking since they dont exactly have an off season to get ready. The big change he makes is essien down the right, anelka in(basically as a cover but forced to play him in the end) and ballack in the game for once. He actually had a decent record but was never a favourite because he still had a very defensive mind. He would have been more respected and maybe not as universily maligned if he wasnt given the manager contract.
Chelsea’s youth isnt so bad and more then likely as chelsea is hit by the credit crunch we shall see more youth being played over buying players but the problem with chelsea was that since 2003 the squad was all technically in their peak period and only now with maka gone has mikel been allowed to step up. Same as kalou to an extent after robben left. Sinclair and di santo have made appearances off the bench and they slowly will be phased in but our situation is not too different from liverpool who also did a team rebuild around the same time as chelsea and manU has only started playing their young players now that their cover for LB is gone, their many midfield players are getting old and so forth. Most clubs dont do what arsenal does because that requires constant team rebuilds and has such erratic results. Dont expect di santo/sinclair/stoch/mancienne to appear too much this season but next season i can see alex being sold, with mancienne filling his role, ferriera or belletti might also go. Slowly the youth players will be phased in but in all intents and purposes most of will be close to 20-21 when they get given a shot and the rest will be sold with clauses for next sale attached. hell sidwell, bentley and many more were arsenal youth that werent able to break into the top team when the top team of arsenal were made up of older players.
isg – Fantastic comment! So refreshing to see a good long comment, that has all substance and no disrespect, insults, abuses, self importance or big headedness.
We need more commenters like you. Hang around mate, probably with a much more catchy nickname :-)
157. johnarejr
Great way to become a fan by the way (not being sarcastic) Jimmy, Flo, Wise and all those guys were pure class! Can’t say that is near as stupid as some of these other clowns which couldn’t give a reason why they were fans! And you were hear before the so called “instant success” cause you got to see Zola play if I’m not mistaken and Lamps and Terry develop into the players they are today!
156. Calvin
Did you read what I have been saying and arguing for with IwasMissingJose and sammy? I LOVED Mourinho to death when he was here, but I have also been stressing we get behind Scolari and stop dishing out unconstructive criticisms which include the likes of (Mourinho would have did this, or sack LFS that) You JUST RESTATED MY POINT! We need to be focusing on his need to change strategies and see Deco as a droppable piece at times as well as understand that he is his own manager and will therefore need his own pieces to make his vision possible! We DO NOT NEED to drop another manager! That is the worst thing we can do! That would then be 3 managers in the space of a year… and that is no good!
155. Sammy
HAHAHA! at this comment. A Manchester City fan? that’s your best comeback? At least tell everyone how you became a “fan”. But guess you can’t being that you never made the attempt to visit a game maybe? Who knows, don’t care for your opinions after hearing all your ranting and raving about how much Mourinho is better than LFS and your lack of knowledge about a team you claim to be a fan off! Just in case you haven’t noticed… THAT DOESN’T HELP OUR CAUSE!
154. IwasMissingJose
One, I am an American. My mother is English! You know my story about how I became a fan in the previous comment, but the difference with me is I am actually a FAN of the team. Not a SUPPORTER! there is a difference which is why I stress that if your going to be a fan, that team which you claim to be a fan of should be of some significant importance to you that you go to at least one or two games a year if you can. Just like I will be going to England to see them play while I’m on break from college. Now my goal isn’t to start a “verbal war” with you personally or anyone else, but it really gets to me and other fans when you dwell on the past in such a negative way! If you can’t visit Stamford Bridge, I hold nothing against you… but to at least make an effort to know some things about the club you claim to be a fan of is all the rest of us ask if your going to argue so combatitively against us. At least learn the damn chants or something, you know? Now I am not one for apologies so you won’t be getting any from me… but I will reconcile the matter at least on my behalf and try not to put forth any negative comments so long as we don’t have to hear all this Mourinho would have done this or that talk. Because as I have said before, Mou was the best thing to ever happen to us… but you know, these are the days for Chelsea you should cherish because before we won both the titles it took this head and heart ache which really made winning the titles back to back so much more enjoyable! Now whether you became a fan due to Chelsea winning the title or were before hand… like I said I don’t hold that against any fan unless he has no clue about the clubs history before that point. Those who have supported Chelsea welcome new fans because we want to be a huge club now that we are no longer the underachievers (knock on wood for this year) or consistent third placers!
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