My first reaction was: “No way!”. When I looked at it objectively, there were things to consider here. Joe Cole is a scintillating player. I’d love to have players like him who can be very inimitably special. When he is in spirits, he can be great to watch and is truly a match winner. I still remember that goal he scored against Arsenal at Highbury. For such a small guy, he bulldozed that Arsenal defender and ran with the ball for an one-on-one with Lehmann who could only watch the ball fly past him. That was one of my favourite goals by Joe Cole. And then that goal against Man Utd at Stamford Bridge where he made Ferdinand and company look like complete idiots. And that one against Everton last season. And many more.
Of course, along with his spells of magic he also had his spells of injuries and inconsistency. As much as he has thrilled me, he has been one player who has frustrated me very much. It’s because he does these unbelievable stuff once in a while, he hypes up expectations on himself and then comes with a very mundane 90 minutes next week. He’s now getting into a crucial period of his Chelsea career. He could have been overshadowed by Robben and Duff but they are gone. For a long period, Joe Cole was the only decent winger we had. That was the period he must have stamped his authority. But he was injured and when he was not, he was very good but not really outstanding. He was our player of the season of 07-08, wasn’t he? It must have been a tough choice last season because none of them actually deserved the ‘player of the season’ award. None of them were consistent, including Joe Cole.
Until now, he’s got away with his inconsistency but it’s gonna be a lot tougher going forward. If not for Joe Cole, I don’t see Scolari ever choose to play 4-3-3. So if Joe Cole does not impress, we choose a more convenient system to get the best out of our ultra strong midfield. Also, the tag of ‘most skillful Chelsea player’ has gone the moment Deco arrived. Deco is simply the master who has a lot to offer to players like Joe Cole. With talks of Robinho and Kaka, Joe Cole won’t even be in the top three skillful players at Chelsea. His USP is gone. If he is not delivering the goods, he’s gonna see a lot of bench time.
This season in premier league, you can have 7 players on the bench, which helps Chelsea more than any other team in England. Joe Cole could be one of them. In our opinion poll yesterday, a vast majority of us have voted that Joe Cole would be the one to lose his place because of Deco’s arrival. Joe Cole may not like to sit in the bench for too long. He is a type of player who loves to play football, may be even at the cost of a pay cut. When Aston Villa comes calling, a couple of things must cross his mind. One is about how secure his first team place is, in Chelsea. With more key signings to happen this month, Joe Cole could soon be a full time benchwarmer. The second is, the role that he can play at Aston Villa. He could be a real star there. They could adore him. He could play every single match, all 90 minutes.
Here is the view of a Villa fan, from the avfcblog:
Joe Cole’s a right footed player who prefers to play on the left. But like Ashley, he can play on both sides just as well. Would be our greatest signing ever I reckon, but it would never happen for several reasons -
1. He’s already getting first team football (he was their most used player last season)
2. He’s already a fully established England international and doesn’t really stand any chance of losing that while he’s at Chelsea, first team or not
3. We’d have to pay through the nose for him. I don’t have a problem with that personally, I’d pay £20m and give him £80k a week myself. Would MON though?
4. Scolari doesn’t seem to want to sell any of his fringe players at the moment. If he doesn’t want to sell SWP, he sure as hell isn’t going to want to sell a far superior player in Joe Cole.
5. We’re Aston Villa. He’s playing for Chelsea. Do the math!
If you ask me, I’ll bite the bullet and say let him go, if and only if he’s gonna fetch us more than £20 million. If you ask him, he might say that he wants to stay at Chelsea and fight for his place. That’s not a bad option for him. Currently, he may not have a place in the first team but how long will we go before our first injury. How much ever you don’t want to think about it, injuries do happen. With team dominated by late 20s and early 30s, injuries are unavoidable. Outside of my starting eleven, the next best option I have is Joe Cole. And finally, who knows what Scolari has in his mind for Joe Cole. If Scolari is unwilling to let go SWP, Pizarro and the like, how can we expect him to release Joe Cole.
This could all be just rumours. But it’s there in all papers, in all blogs and especially the Villa blogs and hence cannot simply be ignored. Martin O Neill seems to have made a bid of £17.5 million. The Robinho deal could have a big say on this one. I expect Chelsea to keep the cards close to their chest. I don’t think anyone would even talk about this at Chelsea. Joe Cole is a fans’ favourite at Stamford Bridge and he is one player, along with John Terry, who has simply not looked elsewhere for many seasons now. We’ll keep a close tab on this story. Okay then, time for another poll.



if the price for stupid G.Barry is 18million pounds, then Joe Cole ‘ll be like 40 million pounds (min.). you are talking bout a chelsea fan and one of the most adored player…
n well i must be stupid to write a comment for this post… n again to villa??? pfuhhhh….
ivanovic is probably going to milan. that sucks he was pretty gd at right back and can be our second right back he could even be our first……
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=814862
chelsea team without J.cole:
———————————————cech———————————————
bosingwa—————carvalho——————terry—————————cole
—————————-essien—————ballack———————————-
—————–deco—————————————–lampard——————
—————————anelka————–drogba————————————–
with J.cole:
———————————————cech———————————————
bosingwa—————carvalho——————terry—————————cole
——————————————essien———————————————
————————–deco————————-lampard—————————-
——-cole—————————————————————-malouda———
—————————————–drogba———————————————–
which do you prefer?
hell NO!!! are they mad… this is one of you best left sided player….(right side aswell) he is a chelsea player though and through !!!
Joe Cole is one of my favorite Chelsea player. Tbh he should stay at least one more season. We got a lot of players in the midfield, but i guess at least one of them won’t be 100% fit the whole season, if Joe Cole get benched in some games, he would still get lots of playing time.
Aston Villa will never get Joe Cole!
men !!!
we have issues!!!……… Ivanovic’s agent says a move to Milan is imminent…!!! what the devil is going on ??? we just bought the guy for crying out loud!!!
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=814862
I hope to God this is a lie…….
BC whats the latest on this?????
I’m very upset about this….this guy is one our best defenders…. I promise you this…no a TBH!!! if we sell him or loan him we will regret it!!
lets look at the RB position
-RB 1: bosingwa (now injured)
PROS: fast,skillful, composed, good,great crossing, attacker (can play as mid fielder), scores a few goals.
cons: none that i know of
-RB2: Ivanovic
PROS: composed, good crossing, great defending, good attacking,utility(can play…. CB LB aswell as DM alot of you dont know this), good in the air, scores a few goals, fast
CONS: none that I know of
RB 3: Ferierra
PROS: Good at defending, can cross well (can play LB aswell)
CONS: Slow, cant attack well, not good in the air
RB 4: Belletti
PROS: good crosses, good at attacking, scores occasional goal,
CONS: not good in the air, a pit slow, poor defending.
Therefore with that said the first choice should be:
Bosingwa
Ivanovic
Ferirra
Belletti
if we sell at some point ESSIEN will find him self at RB at some point in the season …. because the other two RB are piss poor (I speak the truth)
r u mad?????????
he s one of our best player
he s goin to rock the show ths season
and with scolari as th gaffer he will improve
why r u guys so upset that we have a lot of world class midfielfers
its gud . any club wuld like to have that much talented midfield for them
wen scolari was coachin brazil national team
he had a lot of world class midfielfers over there
but did he play 1 gk+10 TALENTED MIDFIELDERS brazilian team
and about joe it was mourinho who killed his game
isnt it?????????????????????????
No way! He has been Chelsea’s most consistant player and if we sell any of our wingers it should be SWP or Malouda. Plus, I just bought the new Chelsea long-sleeve shirt with Joey’s name/number and #10 shorts.
I would be very surprised if Scolari were to let JC go. His form last year was as solid as ever and as stated above, if he isn’t willing to ease out SWP, then why who he want to part with Cole. Surely he rates him higher than “I got speed but can’t finish” Phillips. Maximizing options for all positions, either due to injury or the 50+ game season, is what the modern game is all about and any coach in the EPL worth his salt knows that. Unless Cole has hinted or asked for a transfer (which I doubt), then Scolari would be mad to part with him.
I can’t believe i just read that???
BC u didn’t actually write that article….did you????
The very thought of selling a player like Joe Cole at this stage shouldn’t be entertained by Chelsea fans!!!!!!
JoeCole; Voted Chelsea’s player of the Season last term
How easily we forget……:-(
All,
You know that I believe in keeping the Chelsea core intact. The Chelsea core for me is, Lampard, Drogba, Terry, Essien, Carvalho and Joe Cole. These are the guys that should never leave Chelsea, unless we have fantastic replacements. This summer, I had made up my mind to lose Drogba, Lampard and Carvalho, if and only if we have suitable replacements. The club sacked JM. I was so upset not just because of the sacking but also that the replacement was a dud. Towards the end of his career, I didn’t mind him leaving because of the undue flak he was receiving. For me, JM was very very important. You’ll know more about if you read my introduction here.
For all my love for Joe Cole, I don’t want to see him so much on the bench. It still pains to see Shevchenko unable to contribute. He was such a legend in European football and he still is, and the best we could offer is second choice to Drogba or even to Anelka. I don’t want this to happen to Joe Cole. The brunt of our excesses should not be felt by our Chelsea core.
I know he is certainly our favourite son at SB and that’s exactly why I don’t want him to be disgraced with long waits in he bench. Frankly, if Scolari feels for Joe Cole as much as we do, he’d have offloaded SWP and then be talking about Robinho.
It’s normal to have a back up for a role that exists in our first eleven, for instance, a right back or a left back. Joe Cole should be called a winger, that too a right winger. That’s because we have Malouda for the left and we are trying to sign Robinho. So Joe Cole is considered as a right winger, though he can play both sides. For the right wing, we have Joe Cole and SWP? For a role that does not exist in the first eleven we have two bench players? I’m sure it does not exist in the first eleven because in that case, it would Joe Cole who fills in that role then.
The core also contains contains Cech.
Oh yes, of course it does. Like always, I take Cech for granted :-)
Joe should fight for his place thats what all good players do.If he is that good the coach will not sleep on him.Check out Mikel for example.With world class players like Makalele,Lamps,Ballack,Essien,and more recently Deco,in our mid-field he still gets the nod from all the managers he worked with.Not only does that young lad know how to play but he also has got heart.Oh…whats up with SWP,Pizzaro,and Belletti?Scolari do something.Offload these guys.Peace
I agree. If Joey is not in Scolari’s scheme of things, we should not keep him. He is not the type of player who should be waiting for his colleagues’ injuries and fatigue, for him to make a start in a premier league match. If he stays, I don’t see him starting in more than 15 matches, which is sad.
joe cole is really an expensive surplus, if we are not playing 4-3-3. those whom we pay a lot but have no plans to use, should go. If it’s joe, so be it. There are many – joe cole, swp, sheva, pizarro etc. we should replace them with less expensive young players.
scolari definatly sees some kind of potential in di Santo, my bet is that he wouldnt have given him the number 9 if he would just stay on the bench. admittedly, thats what happened to sidwell, but he did get some playing time at the start of the season.
joe is too good aplayer to sit on the bench, a move to liverpool or aston villa is the right move. The new broom sweeps clean as philco builds a team to win, second is only good for the bookies and the past. kaka at €100 million no player is worth that amount of money, but losing costs €100 million and more.
wtf? are they crazy…….. Joe Cole is here to stay no matter what!!!!… I dont wann see him play for any other club than Chelski
Now Rafa Benitez wants to sign joe cole. I think joe cole will accept that. I dont want to sell him to our direct rival. No please. Pool will get stronger.
he is one of the best chelsea players in all years.SWP AND MALOUDA must leave, not him.in CL final joe was the best chelsea player(uefa choose him as man of the match,but chelsea lost and this went to ronaldo).last week chelsea offer him a great 5 year contract,why chelsea want to sell him?
?keeping swp and malouda and pizzaro (all crabs) and sell chelsea player of the year?are you crazy kenyon?
no need of bloody kaka and robinho
joe shuld stay
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/2545946/Robinho-to-snub-Chelsea-for-new-Madrid-deal—Football.html
how about ths????????????????
Joe Cole to Liverpool………..tats the weirdest rumor i have heard as yet…..
hey guys who says chelsea wants to sell joe cole they will never do it papers say anything .kaka is not coming even robinho a doubt and joe cole place is not under threat .scolari likes joey
joe cole will stay 200 percent
ok even if joe cole becomes a rotation based player he will still play close to 30 games a season. Arguably he does better off the bench anyway. He is a good winger who can fill in for deco in a pinch or allow quick formation changes when he is bought on.
Joe Cole probably wont feature as much as he did last season but still quite a bit.
As a 433 he will play winger, 442 diamond he would end up benched unless scolari swaps deco for him. As a 442 standard on the left.
About ivanovic, milan would most likely be a loan deal. I doubt chelsea will sign away talent so easily. ferriera and belletti can still play and probably be used situationaly to relieve bosingwa of some tiredness.
I was reading an article on th evolution of football strategies and came across a proposal for a 3-6-1 and found it really interesting reading.
the formation for chelsea would be
————–cech
–ferriera–terry–a.cole
——mikel–essien——
j.cole—-ballack—-malouda
———deco/lampard——
———drogba/anelka—-
the premise is defensively sound fullbacks who defend more then go up, strong DM’s and wingers who can run back to tackle. The theory is that with most 433 or so formations the extra defender is less used and even in 442 one attack is usually a free role type player. By placing two DM’s it allows most attacking threats to be neutralised. The two FB’s are used to stop players who escape the wingers down the flanks as well as extra defense in case the DM’s are breached. The central midfield is a control tower. The wingers provide depth and extra attack while the AM’s are their for pinging the goals. In theory the AM’s can be fast strikers as well and its possible to play a game of 3-7-0 by using lampard+anelka in a more withdrawn role, one for speed, one for shooting from range. It would be a very intesting formation, essientially its a 433 with a defender becoming a DM and wingers and FB’s playing slightly more withdrawn roles.
Oh my god !
To be honest if joe cole goes it will be scolari’s fault because joe said he would like to stay at chelsea for as long as he can because he supported chelsea as a boy. I hope that joe doesn’t leave. I went to every game last season and soo many times i was seeing joe cole come on when we wernt having a good day and completly turning the game around and also playing some amazing football. Although if he does leave i hope he doesn’t lower himself to go to a scummy club such as Liverpool.
JT speaks–
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=816334
John Terry says that man utd wont be able to have the same season that they had last year, and that chelsea was very close to them, even with injuries and avram grant. he also said that chelsea are setting the treble as their target for this year.
personally, i dont know if we could win the treble, but i do think that we could win 2 of the 3. if we could get so close with avram grant, we should dominate with scolari.
i dont see joe cole playing 20 matches in this season. he could play in the carling cup and fa cup. in the matches that matter, i doubt if he will make many appearances. he is a great chelsea players, wears his club in his heart, truly passionate about chelsea. but scolari is doing, by biding for robinho is that he is bringing down joe cole’s confidence and trust on his chelsea future.
joe cole is one of those players like frank lampard and john terry that would never want to leave
we need joe cole to give us cover for the left side as kalou is still developing and malouda may not reach form for a while
in saying that we need joe cole to stay, he is irratic but if we can find what motivates him, we can push him to be consistent
its really annoying as joe cole + swp pretty much equates to an english ronaldo
joe cole seems like the sort of player that would rather sit it on the bench until he earns his spot in the best team then playing first team football in anything lower.
Hi guys,Joe cole is going no where.I believe rather than spending more we shall look to offload some players like Pizzaro,Shaun -Wright Phillips,Malouda.Look at our midfield Ballack,Lamps,Deco,Essien,Mikel,cole,Swp,Malouda and Kalou(plays also as AM(RLC)).We have got 5 proper midfielders and 4 wingers.Now,here comes the questions like What formation we’re going to play ? Alright i’m convinced with our new Boss’s answer as he says we’re going to try quite a few formations including 4-3-3 and 4-2-2-2.Do we need 4 wingers ? We’ve got a striker and a winger in Kalou,I dont think any one can match Joe cole in wings.I would say offload Swp and Malouda.When we talk about wingers i really really miss Robben,the pace he had on the counter attacks,his finish,passes and crosses.Iam wont even imagine cole leaving us,when SWP can stay,Why cant Joe cole?.I wish Scolari finds a place in the main 11 to fit joe cole in.If he doesn you’ll find the attribute of this fantastic player in this season…
malouda i think has a place in chelsea, he might not be as flashy as some other wingers but provides an alternative to j.cole/SWP down another flank. He is a great crosser of the ball but was never really utilised during grants era who prefered bombing fullbacks and a overlapping runs.
Now I think most likely we will keep everyone, kalou wont be playing till after olympics and even then it will probably require some time before he gets on from 0 minutes. As i already said, j.cole does better of the bench so expect him to be subbed in reguarly as a supersub. SWP will only play as a back-up and should be offloaded, great players but not as good as his teammates. The wings are pretty good imho, 3 quality wingers + 1 young winger/striker gives us options and backup. The problem is central mid, 5 midfielders vying for 2-3 isnt too bad except that all of them expect to be played(cept mikel i guess), that means a crap load of rotation or subbing. I expect against more threatening teams a ballack/essien/deco wishbone or maybe lampard instead of deco. Against mid table a essien/deco/lampard reverse wishbone. And against relegation trash ballack/deco/lampard. Rotation will be the name of the game this year at chelsea thats for sure, but with so much class it wont be anything like liverpool’s rotation. We also have wayyyy too many RB’s as well but luckily ivanovic can play as CB. Wierdly enough bosingwa was signed by grant because he prefered that kind of play(main reason essien did RB). With so many failed RB’s it will be interesting to see who scolari prefers in the long run, iva or bos.