Comments on: Chelsea 1-1 Bolton | All Over But Chin Up! http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/ The Blog of the Champions of England! Wed, 08 Sep 2010 16:28:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: John Ford http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39329 John Ford Mon, 12 May 2008 22:45:51 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39329 We shouldn't get too downbeat about this whole 'losing' the title rubbish, it wasn't even 'our' tile in the first place. We did well, really well in fact to come back from the position that we found ourselves in, in January and push United all the way for the bloody thing in the first place. At least we don't have to go through the qualification stages of the Champions League at the start of next season. Moscow is what we should be thinking about. We've done really well to get to this point after years of disappointment and if you want the truth, for me the Champions League is what I really want. I would have told you that at the start of the season. We shouldn’t get too downbeat about this whole ‘losing’ the title rubbish, it wasn’t even ‘our’ tile in the first place.
We did well, really well in fact to come back from the position that we found ourselves in, in January and push United all the way for the bloody thing in the first place.
At least we don’t have to go through the qualification stages of the Champions League at the start of next season.
Moscow is what we should be thinking about. We’ve done really well to get to this point after years of disappointment and if you want the truth, for me the Champions League is what I really want. I would have told you that at the start of the season.

]]> By: TrueBlueInd http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39314 TrueBlueInd Mon, 12 May 2008 19:56:58 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39314 Hi Guys.. The reason we lost the EPL was our HORRIBLE defending from set pieces & throw ins. Throughout the season we have struggled when any team kicks or throws the ball in the AIR into our box..a sort of panic n madness & we have paid dearly almost all the time. 1-1 against Everton, Wigan & Bolton 4-4 Against Villa & Spurs All these games, we conceded in the dying seconds..thats 10 points dropped in INJURY TIME... The most irritating thing is that 4 of those 5 games were at Stamford bridge.. Add to that list, the toothless 0-0 displays at home against Blackburn,Fulham & Liverpool... Our home record has been poor..we havent lost, but we have dropped far too many points to b champions However, it is a season we can b proud of..we pushed man utd to the wire.. 10 days to go..Probably the biggest night in CFC's history...We have to win the UCL.. I hope the players pick themselves up n give united a proper trashing at moscow. Cheers Hi Guys..

The reason we lost the EPL was our HORRIBLE defending from set pieces & throw ins.

Throughout the season we have struggled when any team kicks or throws the ball in the AIR into our box..a sort of panic n madness & we have paid dearly almost all the time.

1-1 against Everton, Wigan & Bolton
4-4 Against Villa & Spurs

All these games, we conceded in the dying seconds..thats 10 points dropped in INJURY TIME…

The most irritating thing is that 4 of those 5 games were at Stamford bridge..

Add to that list, the toothless 0-0 displays at home against Blackburn,Fulham & Liverpool…

Our home record has been poor..we havent lost, but we have dropped far too many points to b champions

However, it is a season we can b proud of..we pushed man utd to the wire..

10 days to go..Probably the biggest night in CFC’s history…We have to win the UCL..

I hope the players pick themselves up n give united a proper trashing at moscow.

Cheers

]]> By: IwasMissingJose http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39286 IwasMissingJose Mon, 12 May 2008 12:04:10 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39286 For a team like chelsea, we need a manager who hasn´t (or lets say very few) tasted defeat. A special new blood who is hungry for trophies, a special one who can inspire the team, and a special one who is good with press! not Riikard, not likes of Fabio capello, but a special one, very much (or completely different) like that of JM. For a team like chelsea, we need a manager who hasn´t (or lets say very few) tasted defeat. A special new blood who is hungry for trophies, a special one who can inspire the team, and a special one who is good with press! not Riikard, not likes of Fabio capello, but a special one, very much (or completely different) like that of JM.

]]> By: Robert http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39278 Robert Mon, 12 May 2008 10:19:49 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39278 Yes, and yet Chelsea somehow always found a way to lose to Liverpool...JM and all. The last minute goals are worrying, I don't know what it is. Could be Grant, or the players just thinking they have it locked, because it seems to happen against weaker competition more often (could be wrong on this). But all in all, ManU is a better team. I'm shocked Chelsea even made it this close. I'll be even more shocked if Chelsea wins in Moscow. What manager do people even want? I hear Rijkaard is possible. But Barcelona has not been great the last few years, am I wrong (did they win anything lately)? As "rookie" (for all practical purposes), Grant did a good job (under hostile circumstances). Yes, and yet Chelsea somehow always found a way to lose to Liverpool…JM and all.
The last minute goals are worrying, I don’t know what it is. Could be Grant, or the players just thinking they have it locked, because it seems to happen against weaker competition more often (could be wrong on this). But all in all, ManU is a better team. I’m shocked Chelsea even made it this close. I’ll be even more shocked if Chelsea wins in Moscow.

What manager do people even want? I hear Rijkaard is possible. But Barcelona has not been great the last few years, am I wrong (did they win anything lately)?

As “rookie” (for all practical purposes), Grant did a good job (under hostile circumstances).

]]> By: IwasMissingJose http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39264 IwasMissingJose Mon, 12 May 2008 07:58:53 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39264 yea, during the time of JM, manager took all the pressure. he designed the tactics and he used to shape the game like he wanted it to be. And the players understood excatly what their manager wanted of them. Every game was a piece of art, defensively tight, tactically strong and, for most of the league games, most offensive when the other side would get too tired running here and there or would sleep. After his departure it has been just the opposite. Its only the players who have shown their qualities (well they showed they worth more than 200 million pounds!!! In fact half of our regulars would have worth more than 200 million) and they were the ones who took all the pressure. We went defensively loose, tactically weak, and offensive most of the times. Infact, the opponents scored when we slept. We had lucky wins, and there were very few truely deserved wins. I still don´t like Grant and would still say he overachieved things due to his luck. I always felt Steve and CAte were the ones working behind the scenes and Grant taking all the credits. But its worthless dicussing that right now. I just hope we get hold of right manager next season. yea, during the time of JM, manager took all the pressure. he designed the tactics and he used to shape the game like he wanted it to be. And the players understood excatly what their manager wanted of them. Every game was a piece of art, defensively tight, tactically strong and, for most of the league games, most offensive when the other side would get too tired running here and there or would sleep.

After his departure it has been just the opposite. Its only the players who have shown their qualities (well they showed they worth more than 200 million pounds!!! In fact half of our regulars would have worth more than 200 million) and they were the ones who took all the pressure. We went defensively loose, tactically weak, and offensive most of the times. Infact, the opponents scored when we slept. We had lucky wins, and there were very few truely deserved wins.

I still don´t like Grant and would still say he overachieved things due to his luck. I always felt Steve and CAte were the ones working behind the scenes and Grant taking all the credits. But its worthless dicussing that right now. I just hope we get hold of right manager next season.

]]> By: Sumesh http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39263 Sumesh Mon, 12 May 2008 07:54:58 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39263 >>"...no one having to play out of position.." Only Essien was forced to play RB/CB for the umpteenth time by that $#% Grant. >>"Man Utd were more consistent..." Indeed, not just in playing well but also being favourite to all referees. It happens with Real Madrid in Spain, Milan clubs in Italy and B.Munich in Germany. Legacy clubs are always given that extra edge by referees. Man Utd were lucky to be not down to 9 men. Replays clearly showed Ferdinand putting out the arm, letting the ball hit the bicep (and not the fingers or edge of the arm), then pulling out the arm dramatically so that refs would think of it to be unintentional. Scholes' tackle should've resulted in a red card, but again, Man Utd are always favoured. Not just in these situations, but also any punishments dished out by FA. JM said it, Rafa said it - and we all know it. I guess you can't expect the world to be fair in any way. As Macca (of ESPN) said it, when it is Manchester United, playing for the title, no ref would dare to send off players because of the potential examination by FA, manager and fans after the match. >>"..Shevchenko to score the winner at Moscow..." Ironic, isn't it? Sheva missed in 2005, has been off-form ever since, and now in the match before CL, scores Chelsea's only goal. Kudos to Grant for bringing him on early and not in the 94th minute. I hope he pairs Drogba and Sheva up front - Anelka has been distinctively out of form and hunger for success. Perhaps his only notable contributions were a glancing header to the path of Drogba who scored, and that cross to Drogba for goal against Liverpool. If Sheva scores the winning goal at Moscow, then that alone will justify his price tag of 30m ;) Sheva will go to Milan at the end of the season, and I can predict that it will be a bigger loss for us than buying him for 30m. He'll probably get back to good form, and Milan will have got a good bargain. Players of class can only be out of form for so long, after all. >>”…no one having to play out of position..”
Only Essien was forced to play RB/CB for the umpteenth time by that $#% Grant.

>>”Man Utd were more consistent…”
Indeed, not just in playing well but also being favourite to all referees. It happens with Real Madrid in Spain, Milan clubs in Italy and B.Munich in Germany. Legacy clubs are always given that extra edge by referees. Man Utd were lucky to be not down to 9 men. Replays clearly showed Ferdinand putting out the arm, letting the ball hit the bicep (and not the fingers or edge of the arm), then pulling out the arm dramatically so that refs would think of it to be unintentional.
Scholes’ tackle should’ve resulted in a red card, but again, Man Utd are always favoured. Not just in these situations, but also any punishments dished out by FA. JM said it, Rafa said it – and we all know it. I guess you can’t expect the world to be fair in any way.

As Macca (of ESPN) said it, when it is Manchester United, playing for the title, no ref would dare to send off players because of the potential examination by FA, manager and fans after the match.

>>”..Shevchenko to score the winner at Moscow…”
Ironic, isn’t it? Sheva missed in 2005, has been off-form ever since, and now in the match before CL, scores Chelsea’s only goal. Kudos to Grant for bringing him on early and not in the 94th minute.

I hope he pairs Drogba and Sheva up front – Anelka has been distinctively out of form and hunger for success. Perhaps his only notable contributions were a glancing header to the path of Drogba who scored, and that cross to Drogba for goal against Liverpool.

If Sheva scores the winning goal at Moscow, then that alone will justify his price tag of 30m ;)

Sheva will go to Milan at the end of the season, and I can predict that it will be a bigger loss for us than buying him for 30m. He’ll probably get back to good form, and Milan will have got a good bargain. Players of class can only be out of form for so long, after all.

]]> By: Talbott http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39256 Talbott Mon, 12 May 2008 06:43:39 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39256 spot on NB. i saw that analysis of yours. that was very interesting! i think we would have conceded even with terry on. that's because the principles and discipline are slowly going out of the window. did you see how much of communication gap was there between cech and the defenders? something's wrong and the positive results have papered over the cracks for now. spot on NB. i saw that analysis of yours. that was very interesting! i think we would have conceded even with terry on. that’s because the principles and discipline are slowly going out of the window. did you see how much of communication gap was there between cech and the defenders? something’s wrong and the positive results have papered over the cracks for now.

]]> By: Nihongo Blue http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39255 Nihongo Blue Mon, 12 May 2008 06:37:12 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39255 i mentioned earlier that when ever we won against arsenal or man utd or liverpool in all cases their top defender was injured and had to be replaced during the match. see when we are under similar conditions what happens even against bolton!! i mentioned earlier that when ever we won against arsenal or man utd or liverpool in all cases their top defender was injured and had to be replaced during the match.

see when we are under similar conditions what happens even against bolton!!

]]> By: Talbott http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39254 Talbott Mon, 12 May 2008 06:36:54 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39254 grant says this after the match, about the title: <i>"We cannot say we are disappointed because we were never in first place to lose it, so we need to be very proud of what we did this year"</i> it would be nicer if he showed disappointment that contentment. how can not be disappointed when we came so close and lost the title? may be he was expected to come second and he is happy that 'HE' achieved it instead of worrying about what Chelsea wants to achieve. See what Ballack says: <i>"Everybody is a little bit disappointed but in one or two days we will have switched and be looking forward to the final in Moscow"</i> Now, that's a lot better. Grant may have spoken the truth. Sometimes, people in power should not just be speaking truth, they must exude confidence, courage and pride with their words. grant says this after the match, about the title:

“We cannot say we are disappointed because we were never in first place to lose it, so we need to be very proud of what we did this year”

it would be nicer if he showed disappointment that contentment. how can not be disappointed when we came so close and lost the title? may be he was expected to come second and he is happy that ‘HE’ achieved it instead of worrying about what Chelsea wants to achieve.

See what Ballack says:

“Everybody is a little bit disappointed but in one or two days we will have switched and be looking forward to the final in Moscow”

Now, that’s a lot better. Grant may have spoken the truth. Sometimes, people in power should not just be speaking truth, they must exude confidence, courage and pride with their words.

]]> By: smicer http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39252 smicer Mon, 12 May 2008 06:23:27 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39252 i expected manu to win but did not expect us to draw. that was disgusting. to say that we lost on goal diff is much better than saying that we lost on all accounts - points, goal difference, head-to-head - everything. i don't want to see our important players leave. these are the guys who are the flag bearers of our spirit. money cannot buy spirit. anelka is a good example. even if he scores 40 goals every season, he does not have the spirit. look at him when we win and look at him when we lose - all the same. that can be his personality but he is not someone who will send good vibes around the team. look at drogba, essien, terry, lampard etc. they are the champion players. i hope they all stay. i expected manu to win but did not expect us to draw. that was disgusting. to say that we lost on goal diff is much better than saying that we lost on all accounts – points, goal difference, head-to-head – everything.

i don’t want to see our important players leave. these are the guys who are the flag bearers of our spirit. money cannot buy spirit. anelka is a good example. even if he scores 40 goals every season, he does not have the spirit. look at him when we win and look at him when we lose – all the same. that can be his personality but he is not someone who will send good vibes around the team. look at drogba, essien, terry, lampard etc. they are the champion players. i hope they all stay.

]]> By: Steve Clarke http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39250 Steve Clarke Mon, 12 May 2008 06:09:00 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39250 and why again did we concede in the dying minutes? it's getting bloody frustrating. is it grant's style? we've lost points in about 8 games after leading in them. about 4 or 5 games we conceded in the last couple of minutes. how can we keep repeating the mistakes match after match? man utd deserved the title. we made it this far thanks to some key players' determination and loads of luck. and why again did we concede in the dying minutes? it’s getting bloody frustrating. is it grant’s style? we’ve lost points in about 8 games after leading in them. about 4 or 5 games we conceded in the last couple of minutes. how can we keep repeating the mistakes match after match?

man utd deserved the title. we made it this far thanks to some key players’ determination and loads of luck.

]]> By: Steve Clarke http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39246 Steve Clarke Mon, 12 May 2008 06:03:22 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39246 finally, man utd win the title. im happy that we kept them on their toes for so long. but did you see how man utd played with 12 players on the pitch. that bought off ref did not send off scholes and did not give a clear penalty to wigan. both these incidents happened before cron scored his millionth penalty of the season finally, man utd win the title. im happy that we kept them on their toes for so long. but did you see how man utd played with 12 players on the pitch. that bought off ref did not send off scholes and did not give a clear penalty to wigan. both these incidents happened before cron scored his millionth penalty of the season

]]> By: theshow08 http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39243 theshow08 Mon, 12 May 2008 05:40:16 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39243 how about ashley cole kicking that ball of the line, that was amazing that would have been 2-1 how about ashley cole kicking that ball of the line, that was amazing that would have been 2-1

]]> By: sang_buragas http://bluechampions.com/2008/05/12/chelsea-1-1-bolton-its-all-over-but-chin-up/comment-page-1/#comment-39234 sang_buragas Sun, 11 May 2008 22:32:33 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/?p=1723#comment-39234 We will win the Champs League! Period! We will win the Champs League! Period!

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