We were second best for all of 90 minutes. For most parts it looked like we were playing in Anfield. The Reds showed the real passion and desire to get three points. I thought they would be defensive.
They outplayed us in every department. Credit to them. I’m happy that we didn’t lose our home league record today. It’s still so disappointing and frustrating for me that we did not take advantage of Man Utd’s slip. Chelsea struggled at home to beat a weak and battered Liverpool, one full hour after Man Utd were defeated at home. Before the kick off we knew that Man Utd were at touching distance, a win could put lots of pressure on Arsenal, Liverpool would be missing key players and don’t have quality back ups like in our case, Liverpool is under tremendous pressure, Rafa Benitez could even get the sack if we had won etc etc.
On our side, Mikel and Lampard were back. We are playing at Stamford Bridge. Everything pointed towards a Chelsea win. It required a special effort from Chelsea to drop points under these circumstances. Liverpool played their best match at Stamford Bridge for many seasons, and the pity is they were poor too.
Team selection was flawed. Any layman like me could make out that Lampard should have been on the bench at best. Unless there is a dire need, returning players should play for reserves and then join the first team only after they are match fit. After getting Lampard back after many weeks, playing him against Liverpool at this crucial juncture was not a smart idea. On the other hand, we have a match-fit Mikel who was on the bench. I’m not sure if Grant knows how get the formation right when he has to play Mikel as well as Makelele. They are not incompatible players as it is made out to be. They are intelligent footballers who can play according to their roles and responsibilities assigned to them. Mikel can play in central midfield or in attacking midfield. In fact, it was JM who brought the defensive midfielder in him and made him give a run for Maka’s and Mikel’s money. When Mikel came on in the second half, it must have been in an attacking role, in which case he could have started in that role ahead of Lampard. Don’t tell me that he came on in a defensive role, I’m lost for words then.
The home league record thingy surely played on Grant’s mind. That’s a major burden he carries. The day he loses that record, or may be the day after, I think he would be a relieved man. Yesterday, Grant did not want to push Liverpool to get a win for the fear of failure. He does not want to be the manager under whom the illustrious record was broken. When Chelsea was trailing or drawing at Stamford Bridge, I have not seen Chelsea performing so badly. Look back at those late winners of the last season. That was not a coincidence that we got so many goals at later stages of the match. We attacked and threatened the opposition until we got ourselves into a level of comfort. That’s why the last gasp winners were not termed lucky. We had always dominated the opposition to deserve the goals or the wins.
The first half belonged to Liverpool. Chelsea had no shots on goal while Liverpool were banging every now and then. Crouch was a constant menace. Carvalho and Alex failed to get the better of the tall striker. In just few minutes I could make out that Belletti was losing out to Babel. The Dutch winger had our man in his pocket and I let a sigh of relief when Rafa replaced him with a mediocre Pennant. We could not have complained if Liverpool had gone a goal ahead by half time. At half time, I strongly felt that there were only two possibilities – either a lucky 0-0 draw or a 0-1 defeat.
Still I expected some magic to happen at the halftime so that we come out as a different team in the second half as we have done many times before. I was in for a rude shock. It was the visitors who got stronger and stronger. They were running faster and tackling harder. It was them who had the desire to win and wanted to get the three points badly. I’ve never seen the Pool playing like this in the Bridge. How times have changed. The only serious involvement from Reina was when he had to save a defensive header from Riise. It’s so bloody shameful! In all of 90 minutes, we had only one decent chance (by Ballack) while Crouch himself had more than a hattrick of chances.
I know the players were out on an international break during the week, but we had the pleasure of playing at home against a team whose season is crumbling by the day. It is exactly at these times, we should be playing intelligent football. We knew the circumstances. We knew that Liverpool will come in with a defeatist mentality and we should have made the best of Liverpool’s agony by grinding out this match. We had to make Liverpool to starve for the ball and dent their confidence. What would you say about Rafa’s confidence of coming to the bridge with a rookie centre-half? How well did we test Skrtel?
Arsene Wenger had never beaten Chelsea in the last few seasons. Now he has. Portsmouth have never managed a point against Chelsea in many years. Now they have. In the past three seasons, Rafa’s Liverpool could not even get one single point at Stamford Bridge. Now they have. What are we now going to offer to Man Utd – a historic win at the Stamford Bridge? Right in the middle of the 9-match winning streak, didn’t I say something about Chelsea bottling it up against decent oppositions? didn’t I say something about diminishing passion and desire all around? Again this was a match where the players were poor. This is exactly when Grant should have stepped in. Deliver an inspirational speech, kick their butt and infuse some confidence and enthusiasm into the players, make some timely and effective substitutions and turned the match around.
TimesOnline had this piece titled “Avram Grant’s men stumble when it matters” which very much matches (in newspaper lingo) with what I have to say:
Of greater concern to Chelsea is their continued failure to beat their big four rivals under Avram Grant, who has seen only one point from three matches against Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool. The Israeli was partially justified in attributing a strangely lacklustre performance to fatigue among a squad diminished by injuries and the African Cup of Nations, although as his options increased yesterday with Frank Lampard’s recovery from a thigh strain and John Obi Mikel’s return from Ghana duty, it will also raise fresh doubts over his leadership.
Managerial reputations are earned by performances under pressure in big matches. A surprising Champions League win away over Valencia has been Grant’s only real result of note and even that achievement has been diminished by the Spanish team’s implosion this season.
A more accomplished team would have taken advantage of Chelsea’s off day to inflict their first home defeat for four years, but the visiting side created too little to have any complaints about the result.
In about a week’s time, we should be complete with most of the players becoming available. Probably we will have the strongest Chelsea XI of the last two years for the upcoming games. Grant must decide on the formation that we are going to play and also decide on which midfielders would play. Going by form, Lampard should sit on the bench. In the English league, for the Chelsea system, if you offer me Lampard and Ballack, I’d chose Lampard anyday. But when Ballack is in good form and Lampard has just come from a 8-week lay off, it should be Ballack on the pitch and Lampard on the bench.
Anyway, let’s hope that Arsenal gets knocked off by Blackburn which would make this a very decent result. If Arsenal wins today we would be trailing by 8 points, add one more point for goal difference, then it is 9 points deficit with 12 more games to go. In simple terms, we should win all 12 games remaining (incl the ones against Arsenal, Man Utd, Everton, Man City and Tottenham) and expect Arsenal to lose atleast 3 games. We certainly need a miracle but I believe in miracles.
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This must be the most appalling display of non-commited football ever to come from a Chelsea team. Every single player was a disgrace (Cech not included as he had nothing to do). With an almost similar display at Portsmouth, 4 points has now slipped away. Is that good enough for a team like Chelsea? I feel very upset on behalf of the fans at Stamford Bridge today and to be honest I think a full ticket refund would be in order.
The writing was on the wall!!!!!
You cant expect to give pathetic displays week in week out against lower table oppositions and suddenly expect to use the same performance to miraculously trample Loserfools!!!!!
Jus doesnt happpen!!!!
I wont even pay attention to the old man’s interview!!!! I would prob lauf to death hearing him talk about the many positives!!!!
We were poor today a very boring game.
Liverpool did play better but I’m not sure if they deserved to win.
They did have chances but didn’t take them.
So a poor performance and Grant pleased me by saying the football was poor!
The subs made no difference whatsoever really.
to play lampard today was madness, out for ten games and thrown into a game against liverpool, ok lampard wanted to get a game before the return of the africa players, but grant must have no faith in the team thast has done so well of late without lampard, terry, and the african players.
Unlike Mourinho, who would surely have piled on more and more attacking substitutes, Grant only replaced. Pizarro for Joe Cole was the most infuriating for me, as he just kept losing the ball over and over. Ballack’s chip was the closest we got, and I really thought it’d go in.
If Arsenal win on Monday, I have no doubt that we are certainly out of the title race, although second is still within our grasp. My targets after Jose’s departure were third and a cup, and I get the feeling that is what we will have – I will still be happy with that.
Next season is when we start judging Grant for real.
Chris
“Next season is when we start judging Grant for real”
I agree and for another reason too.
JT was on Sky Sports today and Richard Keys said asked him what had changed under Grant. I had to smile when JT said that Grant had told them that he did not want to change anything really until next season. He wants to keep things as they are for now and try his own ideas out after the summer.
I almost fell over in shock ! NOT.
Guess that explains the dull game though – Liverpool and Chelsea always play dire football when thrown together.
Lampard should have been tried out in a lesser game like an FA Cup round or something, not against Liverpool where the midfield battle would be very hard fought.
Geeeeeeeee Bella didnt hear JT comments in Sky.
But what have I said in my earlier writtings? We have managed to keep our record started by ranieri followed by JM , only and ONLY because we have had very poor opposition, and this year the difference between the so called lower clubs and top 4 are abismal, an exception for liuverlosers that this year with all the ups and downs with those americans owners have upset players and management team.
I went to Stam bridge, and in 94 minutes i didnt see Reina do a difficult save, but there again i never would expect that to happen, since liverpool, although playing really badly are not the likes of derbies, readings, QPRs etc etc.
We are starting to apply the AG ideas oin the field, how sexy attacking football should be played
under the expertise and ever so successful manager that prick of RA imposed in the club.
No doubt in my opinion that Liverpoopoo were unlucky not to get the 3 points, but again LUCK came to our rescue, again the name of TSO were mentioned amongst the fans to start chanting his name in today’s match, but how ……..strange guys there are stewarts to advise you not to mention the name hahahaha….hmmmm.
Anyway need to watch the recording match again before I come here to pass my “good” judgement on our messiah, the ever and ever so fantastic manager that we have, seems to struggle to play teams of the same calibre as Chelsea.
BRB
Agfriend makes a good point – in three league games against the other members of the top three, Grant has drawn one and lost two. One of the main reasons we were such a success under Jose Mourinho is that we are able to beat Man United, Arsenal, and Liverpool. Grant managed to beat Liverpool in the Carling Cup in December but that was their second 11 and mostly against ten men.
I am making no judgments, and continue to be optimistic for the rest of the season, but I can’t help but feel we do not have the quality to secure the league this year. Let’s see what happens to Arsenal tomorrow. A loss for them would be fantastic for us, a slight development, and a draw still leaves us on the six we started with, but a win puts us eight points off the top, technically nine with the goal difference we are highly unlikely to make up.
Drogba, Kalou and Essien could not return at a better time (except maybe five hours ago!). It is even more important for us to beat United and Arsenal at home now. We can only hope that luck turns our way.
I don’t know what’s harder; playing such a bad game or watching it on TV, after today’s game I was so tired and worn down from frustration.
Few points
1. Both teams where more afraid of losing then really trying to win
2. Some how our home record is in our way from taking more risks for winning
3. If you ever played football you know there are such games when nothing just nothing works
4. Our defense should get a bonus, for yet another great effort.
5. Where was AG ASS or luck when needed (Ballack missing)
Benitez tactically used this match to show us he is far beter than grant with his formation. Despite the absence of Torres, Alonso and several members of the liverpool first team, they still managed to press us and play far better than us throughout the entire the game and for most parts of the game it seemed we were in Anfield. I don’t recall Reina diving or making any saves throughout the entire game which actually is a shame to us as we were playing at the bridge.
I don’t care what other fans might think but up till this match, i thought Grant was a fantastic manager but he has proved to me that his wins have all been flukes. How can any reasonable manager start with Lampard who is just coming from injury. I expected Lampard to probably play the last 10 minutes. The fact that Mikel was on the bench was also stupid as our midfield was completely disorganised. Mourinho never benched Mikel ever since he played him in the Carling cup final and realised that mikel is the future of the midfield for chelsea. It was not until he put mikel in the game in around 63rd minute that we started dominating in possession and mikel created the golden chance that ballack wasted. I also was surpised that malouda was on the bench.
Both Mikel and Makelele also shouldn’t be on the pitch together as it will only make us one man short. Also, shaun wright phillips should have been brought in in the second half instead of starting the game as SWP almost didn’t touch the ball throughout the game. He is not meant for such a big man.
I also thought Grant’s formation was so stupid as a team like ManUtd would have finished us 5-0 with that formation( 4-3-3 ). Instead, he should have played a 4-5-1. That’s what Mourinho always did against big clubs at the bridge and it “ALWAYS” GOT US THE 3 POINTS against them. Grant should have concentrated more on the midfield with his formation and he should have played as many players in the midfield as possible but instead he played only three “unfit” midfielders. Makelele has an ear and balancing problem, Lampard was just recovering plus Ballack is never fit for 90 minutes in a chelsea jersey (if you haven’t noticed.) He usually excels in the first half only to flop in the second. Today, he flopped in both.
I could keep writing on forever but in conclusion, Grant is the not the right manager for us and i hope everyone agrees with me. He has destroyed all Mourinho’s records and i still think he will destroy more if he is not sacked right away. We never lost with Manutd or Arsenal under Mourinho and we beat them most of the time but we have already lost to both under Grant and it is almost certain that our home record will be destroyed before this season is over.
How the game unfolded:
We started the first half with no real vigor, we didn’t attack with any real purpose or direction – and as the first half moved on it became increasingly clear that we are really starting to miss those players away in Africa. Lampard and the rest of our midfield were invisible and didn’t really push forward. The wide men showed very little menace and Anelka had the unenvious task of forging a lone figure up front. I thought that he did this well throughout the day with very little help from the midfield.
With the exception of Belletti, Alex and Anelka (although not getting any clear chance at goal) I thought the team had played very poorly and would come out with from half time with real purpose. That wasn’t the case however, as Mascherano came out and bossed the midfield and again Lampard fail to make even the slightest bit of influence. Credit to Liverpool with they were able snuff out every chance we had and Reina was hardly tested. I could see from about the 55th minute neither team was going to budge and a goal would more than likely have to come from a set piece. At one stage I recall a ball getting played through to Anelka at the top of the box and everything single Liverpool player with the exception of Reina was between himself and goal, such was the commitment and tactics of Liverpool. They were desperate not to concede. With that in mind it was going to take something special to break their defense.
With Torres out they didn’t really have any other choice, although I thought Kuyt played surprisingly ok, and crouch was a constant arial threat.
I think we gave up any chance of winning the game when we took off our 3 more attacking player’s in Lampard, Wright-Phillips & Joe Cole. Their replacements with the exception of Mikel were bitterly disappointing. Mikel gave Ballack license to venture further forward and I think he began to give us something, however Malouda and Pizarro both looked out of depth. Pizarro especially looked like a fish out of water. Our best chance came when Ballack volleyed with the side of his foot, however the shot flashed passed a helpless Reina.
I don’t understand playing Makelele and Mikel at the same time, and certainly don’t understand having young players like Sahar and Sinclair and not giving them a chance.
Second week in a row we have failed to capitalize on Man Utd failures, if we don’t win the tittle it wont because we didn’t have chances which is even more frustrating. I think Grant has some serious soul searching to do when it comes to tactics.
I think we really need to think about playing a Diamond formation when Drogba and Essien get back.
Ya’ll can argue all you want….u only seem more ridiculous than AG!!!!
The writing has been on the wall……Why ya’ll arguing…the man just not good enuff!!!!
The way we’ve been playing of late has hardly inspired anyone on this blog: so why expect a miracle now against Loserfools!!!!
The truth is….we are playing a form of football right now that will make even Derby look like they are in the top 4!!!
We not scoring goals….and our midfield keeps making useless passes…..passes that really dnt have any impact besides 4 the possession statistics!!!
OUR MIDFIELD IS WRETCHED…..we must admit it!!!!!! A bunch a players that are hardly playing like they making half the money they making!!!
Only midfielder right now who merits a place right based on performance is BALLACK!!!!
NOthing else is there really!!!
Hopefully Drogs and Anelka can get it write for the Champions League!!!!
Just look how we gonna make Olympiakos look like a top side when we play em: we just cant dominate minnows when we get the opportunity!!!
So Sad 4 us!!!!
May the good God be with us!!!
amen
AG to Frank: Franky mate you gonna have to fight 4 ya place like every1 else!!
Frank: Ok coach…..I will kick ya butt if you dnt get me in the starting line up
AG: AWW u sure kno how to get what you want Franky
Frank: Ur a moron, thats pretty easy
Ag: Whats a moron?
Frank: U mate
AG: Aww….U one a ma fav players….U show true respect fa ya technician director
Frank: Told u ur a moron(lol)
AG: Did I say thanx…..Thank you Franky….As a matter of fact here’s the captain armband!!! Go an sho those guys wat u got!!
Frank: Thanks AG….u really are a moron(lol)
AG: Thanx again mate
Was a bit bored…and confused; so I guess this is the best i could come up with!!!!
Chelsea was lucky again actually : lucky NOT to lose !
@AB
“May the good God be with us!!!”
HE is AB it is called LUCK, we are so lucky under this moron AG that we closed the gap against MU
not 4 points anymore only 3 now.
The sad story is that we were all over the moon with the lately results over terrible bad opposition.
When we got a better side (Porstmouth) we were lucky to come out with a draw, then we got an even better side (at least on paper, but playing like the like of derby) again we were lucky to have a draw. I watched the game, and Reina never was made to save an intentional shot.
A manager that before the game started knew the result of MU, with the possibility of closing the gap against a team that we all know is playing terrible (Liver), just came out with tactics as if he was playing one of the bottom clubs.
I have a feeling that the LUCK AG brought us is dwindling, and against Olympiakos, by far the easiest team in CL we may struggle unless DD is in one of his days and forgets the dinner with JM in Ghana, lol.
Is no point to pass judgement on the tactics, or on AG this plonker doesnt even know the meaning
of the words let alone any implemet of the same.
Well I read that last Monday he was in Israel getting his UEFA licence, I bet he will pass with flying colours.
Thank GOD, Liverlosers were without Torres and Alonso, maybe a diffrent outcome. It is not AG fault, the man knows he is not up to the job, it is RA’s fault, he made him as the manager so we have to swallow it.
maybe Frank Rjiskard will be at the Bridge after the Summer.
@AGfriend
dude I thought you were AG’s friend…….lol
On a more serious note tho…I hope he is learning with each game tho!!!
Or else we gonna suffer real hard!!
It’s a boring game and pity we lost 2 points and a total of 4 in two consecutive games. However it doesn’t mean we deserve a win (with a worse display comparing the match against Pompey).
Problems for drawing against 2 sides in a row:
1) Grant’s tactics. He has none. He doesn’t know how to play against sides that know us this well. We shouldn’t have played 4-3-3 but instead, 4-4-2. This is how Mourinho won games against L’pool.
2) Lampsy should not start below full fitness. He was awful and he gave the ball away like every time he touched the ball. Awful woeful performance. He should be on the bench, just in case.
3) It is for sure Lamps and Ballack made an incompatible midfield partner and shouldn’t have Grant started the both of them. They simply cannot play with each other within the same match. Either him or Ballack. Just like Ballack + Sheva is good and Lamps + Drogs is perfect, but the 4 should never start within the same first XI. Grant should have noted that as well.
4) Now Grant has never yet beaten any of the top 4. He has been doing ok-ish against weaker opponents (pls exclude the luckiest time of his against Man City thrashing 6 goals), yet has done nothing against L’pool, Man Utd and Arses. It reminds me of how important Jose was/is to us. We miss him definitely. Not saying Grant is not good enough, he is only good enough to beat against the bottom ten of the table, not the first 6. He is goood, not the best manager. And Chelsea FC needs the best.
5) Title race is over. Hoping Grant could at least aim at his first ever trophy on 24th Feb.
Up the Chels!
I read last week on both tribal football and goal.com that Jose mourinho is coming to take his favourite players from chelsea in july to AC milan; Drogba, carvalho and Mikel. The websites claimed to interview both mikel and carvalho and none of themdenied the reports.
Someone pls tell me that’s all a lie.
From the Problem of Plenty , it seems that AG is gonna have Plenty of Problems soon….
Arghhhh…. and we have to abide with the bloke until at least next season….. shite !
AG and RA have ruined my weekend entertainment ……. I am not getting my footie fix at all……
lampard should have come on as a sub malouda should have started ……….. grant made a big error playing ballack makalele and lampard no width what so ever crowded midfield
now no one really gives a 2 cent for what i have to say but i will anyway
poor performance………..but a draw was a very fair result.they didn’t deserve neither did we to win………..
@BC
Agree poor performance………..but this is exactly the way chelsea and liverpool play against each other…….and honestly that’s the way our dear professional lampard play irrespective of whether he is fit or unfit or whether it’s grant or jose era………..if we still don’t sell him and let him rot on bench,then avram is no better than jose at team selection and untouchables theory…….he is not cfc class……….everyone who is honestly concerned about cfc wants him thrown out of the club…………i can bet you if sidwell start shooting that much he will be the new lampard…..he is crap and how in the name of devil can we blame avram when demi-god mourinho played lampard,terry[only last season],ballack irrespective of whether they deserve to play or not………..now again terry wants to be rushed back……..let’s hope avram has guts enough to let him train and regain his form before unleashing him
i think AG is basically crap. now correct me if i am wrong, but AG has won none of the most important derby’s we have had this season, we lost to manu, arsenal and tied to liverpool. These are the matches we need to win if we are thinking winning the EPL. Now if u guys think AG is the man who can bring the EPL title to chelsea, i think ur’all wrong.
And what abt AG positive and beautiful football, ?? its all i hear him say , but on the pitch i see crap. Today’s game was just a bore.
I really think chelsea should sack AG, he has no experience for coaching such a big club like chelsea.
i really think we were better off with mourhino! Now please correct me if i have said anything wrong.
The game was boring, lampard’s passes always incompleted and snatched immediately by opposition team.. wut happened mate?
After Huddersfield and Derby the club propaganda wll be going Hooray again ,
But we fans knew better , know better ……
It’s third in the premiership ,semis in the CL and a wild stab at the Carling ……and …. the FA cup……
and TBF it was not a typical Chelsea -Liverfool encounter…… it usually was a cool and calculating game from Chelsea…. very much unlike the bumbling, toothless performance of last night
i think i am used to see it every time there is an international break. The players are not fresh and it shows up on field. if u had seen the man utd game u would feel it might be a mistake .. it cant be man utd. same happened with us. actully we have been playin like this for last few weeks with too much game time under likes of not so fit ballack, old makalele , joe cole , alex ……
Yet there are some positives.. ashley cole is really been impressive in last 2 games. balletti was defending very good.
Liverpool made it very crowded in the midfield and also were defending in numbers. i dont remember the player but just outside the box 6 players were converging on him.We could have been given that penalty but i think it was a fair decision. crouch did missed a very very good chance. thank god torres wasnt fit
did u guys see the lampard reaction when he was subbed . He wasnt expectin it however i think he should have been subbed in 1st half itself as jose once did with joe cole.
with 12 matches left key matches are west ham, spurs , man city and everton away and man utd and arsenal at home. Not a easy fixture by any means. With injuries hitting arsenal at crucial time with aluminia, flamini etc out we are in with a chance if they slip up.
KTBFFH!!
tbf dont try to fool us? is this how chelsea have always played pool at stamford bridge? we always dominated all teams incl the big four at SB. we have never been outplayed like this at the bridge. shame!
and tbf get this in. lampard always got himself selected under JM by merit. 20+ goals every season and he is a midfielder.
i was literally crying yesterday….first time i felt that we were not the force @ stamford bridge. we used to scare the hell out of teams when they were drwaing in the last 10 min. we used to up the ante in a very big way, but now all that resiliance is gone……….
Are we coming to the end of the JM legacy and also the end of Mr AGs honeymoon, maybe so and now its time for Mr G to show us that he can instill passion, belief and motivation into are beloved team. This to me has been missing in recent games. Last night was the worst Ive seen for some time, the only plus was seeing Lampard back.
Jebus, so much negativity going on here. Everybody, everywhere, just crying because we playing the greatest football the world has ever seen and not in “good form” (despite the fact we had a 9-match winning streak and have only lost to Arsenal and Man Utd). Get your heads out of your asses! You can’t demand perfection. The arrogance here is sometimes amazing, especially from BC. You demand and expect success immediately, even though Grant is only in his first season, and when success comes it’s “Gees, Avram is such a bad manager, he needs to improve his English, he can’t make subs for shite, he can’t choose tactics for shite” even though we are winning matches!!! BE HAPPY that we are actually winning, it’s something you all take for GRANTed. Sure, we didn’t play well agaisnt Liverpool. But Liverpool are a good team, part of the “Big Four”. Do you actually expect we steamroll them 6-0? Be happy that we didn’t lose. The defence was great last night, why is nobody taking this as a positive? Alex and Carvalho were better than any other player on the pitch ffs.
And so, due to all the stupidity, negativity, arrogance, ignorance and idiotic comments, I am leaving this joint. The balance will have gone soon, and I fear this place will become even more of an anti-Avram Grant propaganderous sanctuary. But, oh well, screw it. I don’t actually care. You aren’t proper Chelsea fans, and that’s all that matters.
(It’d be a miracle that this comment is not deleted … meh)
miracles come to chelsea, the prospect of a cup final appearence and all the injuries have disappeared at chelsea, grant will have to be strong to pick his fittest team for the carling cup final.
thx nubskeh. this will be a much better place without you. lol.
now i know that i just dont say ooooooooppppppppsssssssss 4 losing the match!
it was just like a normal practice without being worried about the result!
Lampard needs to be more fixed!he wasnt marvelous at all!the others werent better too and i just think Liverpool didnt play well that couldnt beat us easily(maybe only a chance)
however I hope Arsenal will lose the next game!
True Blue Fusion
JM played Lampard on Lampard’s merit, a midfielder with 20+ goals is a very very good asset in any team.
The difference now and the “before” and the “past” phrases so loved by our AG, is that clubs and managers that used to come to SB, used to fear us, not only because Chelsea’s players but also they knew they had a PROPER top of the range manager in JM, that could chnage the game with 1 or 2 subs., unlike this clown that we have, that looks at the game with a clueless expression in his face,. like asking the Gods where has my luck gone? We have been playing really bad for the last 3/4 months, yes we have been winning but against weak opposition, the bottom half, now we have 12 fixtures where the opposition is far better. Yes managers of other clubs know that Chelsea’s manager (AG) is clueless about tactics and motivation, hence the reason clubs come to SB without fear. Just go back and recall the exhibitions of Chelsea against the likes of QPR, Derbies etc etc., apart from the ManCity game where the city players thought for an hour that they weere having a siesta all the other matches were not convincing, but the excuses were injuries and after the africa nations etc etc. In fact it was a blessing in disguise all those injuries and absentees, because AG had no alternative but to field the subs and we all know that the subs want to prove they have a place inn the top team. Now with the next 12 fixtures where Chelsea has to play better opposition we will have to see the outcome, no wonder Rafa comments in Sky when he said if liverpool beat Chelsea in SB , liverpool has a good chance of catching Chelsea in the league albeit 10 points diff. Rafa knows Chelsea is going to play the top 10 and Liverpool the opposite with a better calendar, it is a school of thought that Chelsea will have another 3 defeats until the end of the season, God forbid.
@Nubskeh
“Jebus, so much negativity going on here. Everybody, everywhere, just crying because we playing the greatest football the world has ever seen and not in “good form” (despite the fact we had a 9-match winning streak and have only lost to Arsenal and Man Utd). “
9 winning streak, yes but all against poor oppositions and with LOTS and LOTS of LUCK not convincing wins, as JM accustomed us.
I dont read any kind of arrogance in this blog Nubskeh, just bollers voiving their own opinion, I for one have always said that AG is a moron, in football terms, has not got a clue, it is his own fault for trying to start a campaign against JMJ with his so called “sexy attacking footbal, and short passes etc etc, he must be the only one seeing it. Yes he is on his first season but so was JM when he arrived and the results were the opposite, though the chelsea’s players managed to keep the
record going.
You see Nubskeh your comments are frightening, ” But Liverpool are a good team, part of the “Big Four”. Do you actually expect we steamroll them 6-0? Be happy that we didn’t lose.”
You are quite happy with the mediocricy that AG brought to Chelsea, be happy we didnt lose, you right I am happy. Liverpool is a good team, well they are better opposition then the ones we had played but now starts the real opposition.
so the comments are not at all stupid, idiotic, arrogant or ignorant, they ARE FACTS.
AG is a clown in a too big a circus, next time you watch chelsea look at his face and body language, the man looks lost, a small fish out of water, I am telling you very soon the fans will start chanting JM name again, you wait, and come back and apologise.
I am being called a fool for calling a fool , a fool.
I am being called a fool cos I say Chelsea are not playing with conviction even though we have many more reinforcements than last year.
I am called a fool for saying the disjointed fare I see in matches is hogwash, not sexy attacking footy unlike that fool of a fool.
If that be the case , I will gladly accept being called a fool.
summat happened d ere , dint get full fool coment up page fulla errors
*JM played Lampard on Lampard’s merit, a midfielder with 20+ goals is a very very good asset in any team.
see AGFriend,let’s say a defender pops 20 goals per season…………and doesn’t know how to defend……………..i will throw him out the first day…………lampard would have been a hero for me provided he was a striker…………..in midfield i expect him to pass[forward],create and if the situation arises
go for goal…………..but the problem is he is a finisher of first degree and a playmaker of c grade……………provided you have seen fabregas[i really hate this cunt,but credit where it is due],gerrard,arteta,iniesta,xavi,guti,kaka,ronaldinho,ballack etc………………..you will know what i m taking about………….
*The difference now and the “before” and the “past” phrases so loved by our AG, is that clubs and managers that used to come to SB, used to fear us, not only because Chelsea’s players but also they knew they had a PROPER top of the range manager in JM, that could chnage the game with 1 or 2 subs., unlike this clown that we have, that looks at the game with a clueless expression in his face,. like asking the Gods where has my luck gone? We have been playing really bad for the last 3/4 months, yes we have been winning but against weak opposition, the bottom half, now we have 12 fixtures where the opposition is far better. Yes managers of other clubs know that Chelsea’s manager (AG) is clueless about tactics and motivation, hence the reason clubs come to SB without fear.
honestly you are living in stone age dear………..by 3rd season of mourinho,he was no longer feared……….the biggest example is 3-3 draw vs spurs………………the way they made us look shite at sb is something which is hard to forget……….you will probably mention 4-4………read it:we were shite for 15-20 min of first half and then we made villa look shite………2nd goal cech howler………..3rd set piece…….4th penalty…………but i remember us being shite for 90+ min at sb way back in that fa cup match……….
as for the tactics,swp as forward vs everton,pizarro for sidwell during birmingham or mikel for sidwell vs fulham…….these all are subs for which if JM was still in charge everyone would have been discussing about the out-of-the world tactics………….and grow up dear………if someone keeps on making funny faces at dugout or keep on shouting they don’t account for tactics………..and which weak sides are you taking about everton.spurs,blackburn,villa,l’pool…………….for arsenal even bc admits that we were the better side by miles had it not been for cech howler………..and against man utd……..can you really blame ther man who is in job for 2-3 days and without the vital scouting reports………add to that drogba missing………and refree howlers
*but the excuses were injuries
you mean last year…….when great tragedy had befallen us which is now an excuse……..strange jose is such a poor boy…….his players are injured……………avram is a stupid guy…….excuse n excuses.
avram has not moaned about injuries till now………..grow up dear
I am being called a fool for calling a fool , a fool.
I am being called a fool cos I say Chelsea are not playing with conviction even though we have many more reinforcements than last year.
I am called a fool for saying the disjointed fare I see in matches is hogwash, not sexy attacking footy unlike that fool of a fool.
If what I say is not the truth , I will gladly accept being called a fool.
But at least I ain’t RA’s bought fool, his fallguy, his moonie-like acolyte …
I want Rikjaard ! I WANT RIKYAARD !
@BC
The Reds showed the real passion and desire to get three points
LOL………..EVEN THE SCOUSERS DIFFER WITH YOU ON THIS
“Having just watched his Liverpool side pick up their first league point against the ‘Big Three’ away from Anfield since his arrival, you can understand Rafa’s contentment at leaving Stamford Bridge with a share of the spoils.
“Overall I would say to get a point here is not bad but when you have chances like we did to win here today you must be disappointed,” the gaffer told the Offal.
“The plan as always was to win the game and we didn’t play for a draw. We were attacking and did almost everything that’s needed for winning.”
In a way I agree with the gaffer, but the notion that we did enough to win the game sits uncomfortably with me.
Sure, our defence was impenetrable, but did we really look like a side that was capable of winning the game today? I don’t think so. The reports tomorrow will speak of Crouch wasting three good chances, but, with the exception of his left-foot effort that dragged wide, I didn’t see anything to suggest he had more than a handful of half chances.
In fact, for all we nullified Chelsea and stifled their normally flowing football, it’s hard to ignore that they can feel equally aggrieved to have not won the game, given their ‘was it/wasn’t it’ shout for a penalty, and Ballack coming closest as the game reached its conclusion.
It’s not that I want to sound defeatist about Sunday; I’m as delighted as anyone in red with the point. But – and this might make me the one to piss on a few people’s cornflakes, here – the performance was as drab and uninspiring as it was resolute and tactically spot on. Let’s not let one excellent defensive performance and result mask the deficiencies that were again on show: a lack of penetration, creativity and, ultimately, goals.”
http://www.liverpoolpies.tv/2008/02/rafas_pleased_with_a_point_aga.html
Not everyone that comes from injuries or CAN is going to add value, even though they think they can. Now AG should show whether he has guts to choose the team he wants, not the team someone else wants.
Unless Lampard learns to play again with a passion and thrust, he should not be fielded. Does AG have guts for it? We will see.
John Terry is another such person — should he start immediately just because he is a captain? I am not sure, but we will see whether AG has enough wisdom and guts to take the right decision.
Seeing Lampard playing I am starting worrying that the “Problem of Plenty” may hit us pretty hard.
@AGFriend
“but the excuses were injuries and after the africa nations etc etc. In fact it was a blessing in disguise all those injuries and absentees, because AG had no alternative but to field the subs and we all know that the subs want to prove they have a place inn the top team.”
lolololololooooooooooooololololollololol…………..now i have stopped laughing i can reply………..now now……………….blessing in disguise…….lol…………………….the subs want to prove they have a place inn the top team………….lol………what was the scenario last season by the way…………….lol…………very good attempt at creating humour in here i must admit
@BC
I Have been noticing that avram’s era has actually brought forward many of jose’s shortcomings which we even failed to see
Untouchable Era
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Jose:I HAVE 7 untouchables and i play them irrespective of their form………….
Me:the way JT played last season……….i always wished for essien at cb…………….ballack,lampard[last year]………….you name them
the point is unless we are goin to be over-emotional it does not take rocket science to see that
1.lampard is not cfc class
2.ballack-lampard=lampard-gerrard………cfcblog reports the moment lampard was subbed[atleat grant had guts to do it]……..ballack once again became the ballack i know of……..
CFC is not bullied by media caus we win…..it’s rather because of i m the special one
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what a change!!!!!!!!!!!!!11i m still gutted………..i can no longer buy the theory that media harass winners
I will not quit reading the nonsense this blog contains and I expect nothing from the herd.
Herd of ppl who as no understanding of this game and its dynamic.
Reading 90% of you is like reading an open book when you know exactly what will be said, i have seen it once before when it took you only one bad game to get all over AG.
Now it took you 2 bad results and your all back to the old stories.
If you ever played this game or any game you would know this shit happens, but its not that you all know it can happen that makes me wonder about you, it’s the fact most of you have no spinal cord and when ever the team has a bad game I see all the blla blla blla about AG.
Only few really sit and try to find what went wrong (witch is perfectly understood)
I burley see here any one who is 2 sided, witch mean when credit his given it should be given well when deserved or bad when deserved.
When the team wins 9 times in a row,
Its only luck,
Or JM legacy,
Or the players
Or the management team
Or AG ass
Or despite AGs lack of tactics.
But after 2 draws it’s a sol AG fault,
Where where the players last night?
Where was JC?
Where was SWP?
Where was our midfield?
Who was out opposition last night? Where they good? Bad?
It’s a little bit of every thing
If you don’t know that you don’t know anything.
Starting some time in September this club only lost 2 games
One of witch we all put under AG belt but I keep putting it under JM belt (the man u game only 3 days after JM left and among that 3 days AG was off for 1 day dew to Yom Kippur)
In any other time or any other club, big or great that would be an amazing success, but here and now when 2 clubs are doing even better, you all go to the easy answers and that is to blaming AG, instead of thinking how and what need to be done in order to make this team better .
Any where else in any deferent big job a man prim ministers or kings gets 100 days of grace, AG did not took even one afternoon as grace, he came with results !!!!
But some here are total hypocrites, the admiration to JM have cussed them blindness.
Yes yesterdays game was disaster, up from our midfield to our front all players played 2-3 levels under there abilities, but we didn’t lose we are still in the fight for 4 titles, our core of players are coming back.
I was trying very hard to find one of my very first post here where few days after AG was appointed as manager and most of you where pretty unfair as I felt, I then posted my view
In general I was not then and not now will glorify him as some of you glorify JM ‘I would only say that AG as a huge knowledge of this game ,most of you would never know things he already forget. I said it then and I now know I was proven right saying he as a tremendous abilities working with ppl and getting as close to 100% of them (witch obviously was done here, I cant see any one managing this team do a better results since September give or take 2 points) .
Not like most of you that lives with fear from JM departure AG steeped into his biggest job of his carrier with no fear, mostly doing the right things changing only little things when possible and going with what was working so nice before, not like many managers who think that in order to prove they are so deferent they change things when they start AG was very smart and kept this team in the race for all 4 trophies .we might win zero we might win one or 2 but now mid Feb. we are still there ,totally opposite to this blog herd predictions.
Read your own post and find how wrong you where along the way ,just like in 2 month time you will all see how wrong you are at mid Feb.
@ Israeli
Well said mate. i find it ironic that when the team wins , it’s Mourinho’s spirit, the boys fighting character.Yet when the team loses , it’s Grant’s fault,Grant’s no good. I admit the last two matches were perhaps the only few times we could have gained points on the top two, perhaps even toppled Manure. The last match was awful, we all agree. I also agree Grant should bear the brunt of the fans’ anger, but when the team wins let’s admit the man is doing well. we may b out of the title race but we still have 3 more championships to fight for.
israeli & TBF
i have a few questions.
on your participation here:
1. if you dont like the posts and comments in this blog, why do you still hover around here? why haven’t you quit already?
2. to tbf – if you like cfcblog so much why is that i dont see your comments there as much i see here?
about the match:
1. in your opinion, who were the better team yesterday – chelsea or liverpool?
2. who showed more vigour to win the match – chelsea or liverpool?
3. do you think AG did his best yesterday? do you think he tried to change the game in the second half and succeeded?
4. do u honestly think AG is a good tactician?
And BC i think you should really check the direction you are turning this blog. The negativity is almost astounding. Yes, you are the author of this blog, but this is a community now. Opinions are shaped and formed here too. I guess folks will swear they r True Blues but sometimes i wonder. Go Chels
MatBlue – The term ‘negativity’ is subjective. What I find as negativity could be rational thinking for the other. So, as long as the comments are parliamentary, I’m fine. Each one has their opinions and let them express them the way they can.
The big divides have always been in this blog and I don’t think there is a problem with that. People have different opinions, they discuss and argue. It’s just that there is always a majority and the minority always feel aggrieved.
Nubskeh @ 34
Comments are not deleted if they do not have abuses or flamers. Please let me know if you feel otherwise.
TBF @ 43 – Let me repeat myself for the 2764th time. I don’t have to make my opinions based on someone else because I saw the match with my own eyes. You say a lot of things about Chelsea which your fellow-chelsea fans don’t agree. What should I say now? Should I say ‘lol’ and look funny?
@BC
Subjective, yes but the boys win and it’s Mourinho’s spirit. Lose and it’s Grant how objective is that if ? Of course we all know what your answer is going to be mate.
Chels forever
Israeli:
I don’t know what’s harder; playing such a bad game or watching it on TV
Watching for me!
Don’t really play, too lazy.
Whatever the merits of Grant, lets try to remember that we are still in a good position for four possible trophies be it down to Avram, Cate, Clarke, Santa Claus or whoever else we feel might be in charge.
Lets wait until the end of the season before making hard nosed decisions about the manager and whether he is any good or not.
I have my views on the matter and they are negative towards Avram (in coaching terms only not him personally) but I am determined not to judge him harshly until the end of the season when we can all sit back and say “did Roman replacing Jose with Avram improve us, keep us static or cause us to go backwards?” And the response? Well the results will tell us.
Right now we’re doing fine despite this loss and despite my continued reservations about his coaching stature.
But lets all play nice shall we?
By the way, I don’t think this blog is overflowing with negativity, remember we have just had a draw when we needed a win – things are bound to be a little glum.
Having contrasting views is healthy in my view as long as it is conducted in a polite and fair way towards others.
Nothing worse than everyone agreeing with each other and too scared to give their opinions – how dull!
BC – great review and i agree with most of it. Frank should have been brave enough to admit he wasn’t match fit (i.e alert to the pace of the game) and yes every injured player should do a spell in the reserves before coming back to the bench…that would be the proper thing to do, not misguided but well intentioned captains armbands and starting places. To the BC knockers, even at Chelseablog we have always had our reservations about AG..as we did about JM and his adversarial style…but when JM was about this game always had an edge and that was missing yesterday. That’s why the jury remains out on AG…he’s done well in less high profile games and gave us a good run, but true champions have to be able to have the measure of their rivals and even if Liverpool aren’t true positional rivals then that makes yesterday even worse. Mikel, fresh from the ACN would have been a far better selection than Frank – and as for malouda and Pizzaro…surely the worst two players since RA came in to wear the blue shirt of Chelsea. Pizzaro…..improved slightly but malouda is nothing more than a cowardly waster stringing us along. He should be sacked.
Bella….a draw isn’t a disaster…but come on..the peformance from both teams was shocking! No shots for Reina to save in 90 minutes..that’s shambolic. Joe Cole playing little flicks like a 16 year old kid showing off to his mates….unforgiveable. Malouda bottling out of every tackle and giving the ball away every time to a red shirt….diabolical. Makalele unable to pass further than 4 yards….disgracefu. Even your beloved Petr Cech caught the fever….how mindless hoofs up the field did he do…straight into Liverpools posession…10…20? great goalkeepers like Schmeichel can throw the ball direct to a player and get the game moving…seriously watch Cech next time….he loves to hoof it up the fieldl
I don’t say Ag is bad…just that he lacks the experience at this level to make brave and hard decisions which benefit the team rather than players.
Ashton #49
For your fair question
“If you don’t like the posts and comments in this blog, why do you still hover around here? Why haven’t you quit already?”
If you really read what I said you would understand that it’s not if I like or dislike the posts here, it’s more like if I agree or not, which it is not hard to see that I don’t ,and that’s exactly why I like coming here, don’t you find it boring to be where every one agree with you ? I do
I like to read anything that I totally disagree as long as I can understand the other side points and ideas, and as long as it’s polite without personal abuse.
I hate hypocrites and when I feel I see one I would try to say why I feel so before just naming him names. For example I just read BC’s@34 and here I can call him a hypocrite ,I sow 2 many posts that should have been off according to the standards he claim to have ,but they suite BC’s ideas and views so they were not (I took the liberty to answer BC question towards Nubskeh)
Someone like you that think this blog should be 100% the same ideas need to understand that there are deferent points of views ,deferent opinions so you can say I am here only for you(just kidding) to help you learn this
In my post I was trying very hard not to put all the ppl here in the same basket, I kept saying most not all,
Take Bella as an example where she and I usually don’t agree but we do it with respect and understanding.
Another reason I am here is that I find this blog and most of the ppl here as no sense of humor what so ever, the only times it looks like they enjoy themselves from a good joke is when they found just another way to call AG with some abusing word, then they are all over with their LOL’s, only that is a good reason to be here
The rest of your questions are very predictable and I think I gave my view about yesterday
But because you ask so nice I would say it again
Yesterday was a shity game, nothing went right, Liverpool where a tiny bit better, AG did try to make a change but it did not work, only when Mikel came in I felt something happened
Yes I really think AG is a good tactician
There is an old American Negro spiritual entitled, “There’s A Bright Side Somewhere.” And that bright side is THE AFRICAN NATIONS CUP IS OVER! Despite this reason for optimism, there are a few questions:
Will Grant’s tactical decision making waste such good fortune?
If (God Forbid) Chelsea looses or draws another league game, how will it affect team morale?
Will the players who want to leave be satisfied with a cup win if that cup is only the Carling?
Why can’t Chelsea come up with another win like they had against Manchester City?
The awe around us vanished once Jose left. Even Derby comes to the bridge believing they have a chance. How art the mighty fallen? the spirit of Jose and that of the boyz can only take this far. Rival managers know that the man on our bench has not got what it takes- listen to them carefully- all they say is that Chelsea still has world class players- that sums up the situation- the class of the players and the spiit inculcated in them over the years- Even if under Jose, Liverpool was tying us at the bridge, the last ten minutes would have seen wave upon wave of ferocious blue onslaught- did you see that yesterday? I blame not AG- I blame the man who removed a genius and handed us this average manager- all the same, i am counting on the boyz to kill themselves and make us glad this year’ i know AG will claim credit for it, but Chels matters more. eventually even Roman will see and rid us of this farce.
I am not able to understand whats happening with the captains arm band????
Against Birmingham city when both ballack and makalele played ballack was the captain.
then when ballack was out makalele was captain but ballack wasnt made the captain after he returned. however lampard was made the captain once he returned.(was this the reason he was in starting line up)
earlier also a few things have happened with ashley cole etc..
Whats happening??? any egos grant is dealing with?
BC arsenal loosing 3 matches looks highly unlikely seeing their fixture. They have man utd and us away where they can drop points and aston villa , everton and liverpool at home which are tough matches for them.
Add to it man utd will take all advantage of any points drop by arsenal.
We have to do something which has not been seen earlier. Drogba and anelka the answer!!!
Israeli
I step in to defend BC as the fellow admin. You wouldn’t know how many comments are held in moderation. BC and myself dont even read all the comments like you guys do. We are not webmasters here. Both of us have day jobs and moderate as much as we can.
Also, the comments standard is being maintained in this blog since Sep 2006 until now. People used to slate JM then and AG now. That’s the only difference. If those comments against JM were published in this blog, it is only fair that the anti-AG comments will also be published. If you want to see those comments when commenters used to ridicule JM, you can still see the older posts. We can only do so much and the rest is with commenters.
Can I call you hypocrite because you say that you prefer polite comments without abuses while couple of incredibly abusive comments are held up in the queue?
@BC
Honestly……i know you have your views…………….i have mine……..but i just find it funny that even liverpool bloggers differ by you
@Tony Glover
i suggest you go through few last matches on both blogs…………you will understand what i mean……..even i have not judged avram completely by now but majority including the bloggists have done so caus he replaced the special one.
@TBF
*Arsene Wenger had never beaten Chelsea in the last few seasons. Now he has. Portsmouth have never managed a point against Chelsea in many years. Now they have. In the past three seasons, Rafa’s Liverpool could not even get one single point at Stamford Bridge. Now they have. What are we now going to offer to Man Utd – a historic win at the Stamford Bridge?
really where was jose when we were thrashed by boro,villa and a historic win by barca at sb
and no wonder now media like times are relevant caus they say avram sucks…………but i saw no posts when avram was being praised……….i suggest you search for a word hypocrite
trubluefusion
incidentally, i was there in the stadium in all those ‘thrashings’ you have mentioned there. jose was there too and the way our team played then was phenomenal. and what’s this barca thrashing you’re talking about? our 4-2 win when barca knew they just needed a draw? you’re becoming a joke with your comments. the major difference is even in the defeats and draws, chelsea under jose used to give their hearts out and go for it. he would even make us play 2-3-5 (that is 2 defenders, 3 midfielders and 5 attackers) in order to get a result. under avram, we are so bloody toothless. tbfusion – i’ve not seen a bigger hypocrite then you!!! LOL
you nailed it ashton. exactly, the problem is not the results. the problem is our playing style. we are so weak. we crumble at key moments. teams take us lightly. we are not threatening the opponents (like someone said wave after wave of attacks) anymore as we used to do. we are less of an attacking threat than we used to be.
btw does anyone seriously read tbf comments cuz it has tooooo many dots ………… which …is …….very…..frustrating …………
u guys are talking as if its the end of the world.yes there are problems in our playing style but now that all the players are back from the ACN and returning from injuries it might turn things around. lets hope so.
defensively we have no problem. with drogba kalou sheva essien coming back i do believe that we can still make it to the title. and dont forget di santo……he scored in a reserves match against fulham
BC your assesment on the home record playing a negetive role in grants mind is excellent !! It surely is playing a big part… whats gonna happen when we host man utd and arsenal?
Poor poor match…….
1. we should not have started with SWP, Lampard.
2. anelka was playing right or left rather than in center. he was trying to create chances
& not finish them ( not his fault, no one was there to create chances)
3. subing J Cole was very bad, should have substituted Maka for Pizarro if we were trying to win.
Mikel was already there as sub for Lamps.
4. could not find passion in any chelsea player to win 3 points, Gerrard was the one who was interested in making something out of the match.
5. When we knew Utd have lost, we should have hell bent on winning the game.
6. I still can not digest fact that why Bridge is not getting playing time & why Sinclair is not even on bench. Heard we r loaning him to Charlton, i feel it is very bad for his confidence.
Good points
1. Record still intact (who cares if we loose ground to Arsenal)
2. Clean sheet
Worst player of the month – SWP
Best player of the month – Alex.
KJO LOJ FILLOI ME 1 RITEM TE MIR PO ME PAS FILLOI TE Q’AKORDOHET LOJA NGA DY PALET KO NUK ARRITEN TE SHENOJNE NGA POZITA TE 100% PO SKE Q’T'I BESH ..!! JAVEN QE DO TE VIJE UROJ TE BEJNE +3 PIKE CHELSEA PO JO EDHE LIVERPOOL TUNG NGA blue angel*8
english please
@Ashton
though i really don’t care but i will reply………….2 years back……..when we crashed out of cl at sb 2-1 final score…………..sorry i forget your memory is only limited to the games in which we defeated barca………………and ashton honestly i have watched all the matches i have mentioned and i don’t need people to say that i am seeing something opposite of what is happening
@BC
Brilliant assessment as far as that home record thing is concerned…………..if that record had went away during mourinho’s tenure…………then it would just have been a moment of disappointment…………….but under avram if that happens…………..i guess you will be creating sack avram post in here…………….well the truth is man utd lost 2 times at home and won the title…………..and they have lost 1 time already at ot……….and odds are in their favour of atleast finishing above us………………similarly like you made it a point to mention that l’pool took 1 point of us for first time so did pompey and we lost against arsenal[courtesy a cech howler which was not avram's fault]……..all the while it won’t be mentioned that stats wise avram is meeting jose head to head………i guess you must have got my point
tbf – we dont need to wait for the home record to go, for ‘sack avram grant’ movement. it is already on. one is he backstabbed jm to get this job, which was given by his close friend who happens to share his faith. another is he is walking away with all the credit that should go to ten cate and steve clarke. the only impact AG can make is negative ones. the positive ones are taken care of by the players, ex-managers, owner and his coaching staff. AG can screw up or not screw up. Only two options he has.
see this is a very objective argument.
TBF, can you in all honesty compare the listless displays we have put up when losing under grant to the passionate fights we used to put up under Jose? The label hypocrite will fit perfect if you cannot see the difference, which by the way is a clear as daylight.
tbf you say we lost to arsenal because of a cech howler and not because of avram. how about scoring goals? also that was not just a cech howler, that was also poor man marking in the box for which the manager should take joint responsibility. That was always coming. we had been poor in defending set peices for many matches and against arsenal we got punished. so that’s not avram’s fault?
if we are going to see each goal conceded and see whose fault it is, then we should do a similar exercise for the goals conceded under jose too. tbf, like mourofesien said if you don’t see the difference between the jose’s management/leadership/tactics versus grant’s management/leadership/tactics, you’re the biggest hypocrite in the world!
@Mister
last year and beginning of thisyear…..we have conceded goals through set-pieces like anything during jose’s era………..i only saw him moaning that mikel,alex,terry are responsible and i m little red riding hood………..where was the responsibility them……….and mister trust me you don’t know a shite about footy or otherwise you won’t be making such stupid points that cech should have been remote controlled by grant and hence prevent the goal…..lol
@Joseholiday
*TBF, can you in all honesty compare the listless displays we have put up when losing under grant to the passionate fights we used to put up under Jose?
jose holiday the way you talk you try to make me believe that i watched something entirely opposite of what i watched…………which passion are you taking about…….vs l’pool at anfield,vs geordies or vs wanderers…………the matches which are representation of toothless displays.
TBF – the argument is not about jose vs avram (because jose is winner and champion by some country miles). the argument is just on avram grant and his abilities to get a result out of the hat. he is completely useless and has zero ideas when it comes to team selection and substitutions – the only two areas that he is responsible for (i hope) as rest are taken care of by his staff for which he takes full credit himself so shamelessly.
nowadays chelsea are highly beatable, always looks like conceding goals, our goals have dried up, horrible playing style, uninspiring manager…………………..
guys just shut the fuc* up im sick of all youre whining about how shit chelsea is, jose was good but we all have to get over him now, so instead of you whining about youre crap shut up and respect chelsea for what it is now
den, now don’t try to be a preacher. we do respect chelsea as much as you do. we are worried and concerned about chelsea and that’s why when we see nonsense we cannot keep quiet. does being a fan means we should not be vocal about our opinions or agree with yours or support each and every stupidity and mistake in/by chelsea fc.
see, i dont need asterisks or abusive words to make my point. learn from me.
@Mister
honestly you are just starved of some spicy post match comments………..and jose wasn’t born with pl,cl in his hands……………..he got his lucky break at porto[one of the big clubs of porto]without any real background………..and it will interesting for you to know that fabio capello got the milan job even when he was just a youth coach at milan………….now do you know our youth coach name……..paul clement……….i bet you didn’t
mister, what im saying is that people need to get over jose and people need to realize that hes gone now. You cannot compare grnt to mourinho just yet, jdge him at the same time next season, he said he will chnage our style next season so we judge when we see this happen, honestly i do not see what you need to be concerned about. Grant has the exact same record as mourinho at chelsea, the only thing id be concerned abou is our wingers because theyu are just plain crap and im sure you willl all agree with m,e, malouda, swp and joe cole arnt good enough for a club like chelsea. I belive if we get one quality winger just like ronaldo we would become the powerhouse club of the world, our problems lie on the wings. Anyway back to the topic of grant, after chelsea play well all you guys say great game chelsea grant is legend, after we play bad everyone starts criticizing chelsea, infact liverpool played 10 men behind the ball with 2 holding midfielders, this is whyu we couldnt opne them up but ballack shouldve scored, with man utd a moment of briliance from ronaldo and they are 1 up and liverpool wouldnt of come back. This is why we need a quality winger. Oh ye and btw di santo scored in his debut for the chelsea reserves, i expect him to play in our f.a cup tie coming up.
Team for huddersfield
——————–Cudicini—————————
—Ferriera—Ben-Haim—Ivanovic—Bridge—
—————-Mikel——-Lampard————-
——Kalou—————————Sinclair—-
————-Sahar————Di santo———–
My lineup and Prediction
——————–Cudicini————————
Ferreira——Alex——–Ivanovic——–Bridge
———————Mikel————————–
——Lampard————————–Sinclair—–
————Pizzaro—————Kalou——-
Subs: Hilario, Sahar , Sidwell , Joecole and Di santos
Prediction: 2-0 , 3-1
They will score first
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Hypocrisy=deceitfulness
@israel
you mentioned that you hate hypocrisy, in one of your writings, but was not AG that tried to start a propaganda that Chelsea was playing a “fantastic attacking football”? was he being a hypocrit or deceitful? or was he trying to convince someone (RA?) or somebody that he is an equal to JM?
You also mentioned most bloggers here have no sense of humour!!!!!!!! well a CLOWN can only go so far with the same jokes, and this clown (AG) is making the same and same jokes, yes I think it is a joke the way Chelsea has been playing, not lately, but since the 4th or 5th game after the departure of JM. If it wasn’t for the LUCK that Chelsea had in about 5 games we would be fighting for a CL place with the Evertons, ManCities of this world, something QUITE unconceiveble under JM. Yes under JM would be unthinkable because JM always thought he was an equal or better to the likes of SAF, AW, etc etc., not like this MickeyMouse manager, so cmon israel, open your eyes.
BTW israel there is a shop for rent near SB, AG could always open an salt beef sandwich bar there, mention it to him.
Yes AG has already proven that the man is a talentless twat in footbal terms, and 90% of the managers in the PL know it, and they have not beaten AG yet because they HAVE NOT THE QUALITY PLAYERS that Chelsea has it, period.
It seems that some problems already started Bridge is not very happy, hmmmmmmmm man mangement soon will come to the boil, and again I predict that AG with his ego and charisma will win them all over, LOL.
Israel “Take Bella as an example where she and I usually don’t agree but we do it with respect and understanding”
just like ME israle use me as an priiiiiiiime example I always treat you with respect you twat.
So you think he is a good tactician ….hey…. hey israel this is football not a war in the desert c’mon, now kissy kissy.
MWAAAAAHH.
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@BC
You will find it interesting…….a good read
http://vkr-fcbarcelona.blogspot.com/2008/02/rijkaards-future-and-mourinho-option.html
@AGFriend
found no reply from you on my previous post………surprise
tbf – that’s a sign that people might have started ignoring you. By the way, it’s not that difficult to know how is the youth coach etc. I know you have access to internet and subsequently browse google, wikipedia, official chelsea website etc. By reading your comments, I can conclude that you started following football very recently (few years), became a chelsea supporter once the money came in, you have not watched a match at the stamford bridge or in a premier league football stadium, have little knowledge of chelsea’s history or didn’t bother because you’ll shift anyway to QPR or some other team that gets richer and more successful than chelse.
@Newman[aka xyz]
*By reading your comments, I can conclude that you started following football very recently (few years), became a chelsea supporter once the money came in, you have not watched a match at the stamford bridge or in a premier league football stadium, have little knowledge of chelsea’s history or didn’t bother because you’ll shift anyway to QPR or some other team that gets richer and more successful than chelse.
i started following footy on match per basis recently…..2002 wc on international level to be precise……….and 2003 on club level to be precise……….but trust me i didn’t about money and the likes……blue is my fav colour and it’s a silly reason but that’s why i actually started supporting chelsea……you seriously can’t blame me…….i live in india…….what do you expect me to do go to sb on weekends and watch…..thanks to god for espn…….and yes i m not a glory hunter caus
1.i never supported any club before.
2.if i was one at that time , i would be chanting glory-glory man yoo
really i don’t claim to be the biggest fan of zola caus i never watched him apart from you tube……………and as for money factor trust me if cfc gets relegated[god forbid],i won’t be jumping ships.
and you will be quite delighted to you
1.majority of cfc fans are post abramovich era………..me and BC belong to that era
2.i don’t like replying to muppets unless in extreme case like just now i am doing
We are all Chelsea fans , peace I say ! anti -whoever ,pro-whoever we may be !
I say love, peace and joy and heated arguments amongst us !
But AG remember if you don’t deliver on the pitch, wage war against the lkes of Liverfool ,ManUre and Aresy to get those trophies, we shall forever be at war with YOU !
who wants to bet with me won’t beat huddersfield more than 1-0 . also it will be a hard earned win.
who wants to bet with me,we will crush huddersfield 3-0 or more
AGfriend
You’re a perfect example for a combination of a racist and a fool
Blue Devil@64
Read AGfriend’s post 86 and you understand what I meant about posts that should be taken off
Calm down israeli. I dont think AGFriend’s post was not anywhere near racist. At worst, you can call it political which is fine.
@israeli
What I like about you is your understanding of my writtings.
C’mon israeli where do I, vaguely or otherwise imply any racism?
One thing i am not is racist at all, besides I assume you are white
just like moi.
Only because I dont like the kind of people that stab colleagues in the back
it doesnt mean I am racist, maybe you meant segregationist but sure
not racist.
@BC
Intersting Stats From Wikipedia…………….Even I Thought No One Scores From Midfield As Much As Lampard Can…………i was so wrong there
VDV Appearance:219 GoAls:98 Age:25
Lampard Appearance:549 Goals:139 Age:30
Diego Appearance:136 Goals:37 Age:24
Ballack Appearance:376 Goals:110 Age:31
VDV=Van Der Vaart………………….and other three can take set-pieces
Tbf – if you go by these records, just look at the stats of sheva and pizarro. Im convinced about diego but vdv has to do it in a better league. Lampard is very special for me. Not just for the goals, for his passion too. Also he has made hundreds of assists and aides.
@Renato
*Fact :Both diego and VDV play in German League.
Expect you not to get biased caus you are a brazillian………i was not disregarding diego in any sense……i was just presenting the stats………….sheva and pizza are different types…….they are at the end of their career…………i didn’t mention ronaldinho you know
@Renato or anyone
does anyone knows about a website from where we can get no.of assists for players caus i am convinced fabregas should have more assists than lampard now………….as for passion how much player says i love this club or how many times he kisses the badge………only thing i care about how they play on pitch…….
Double standards TBF.. when it comes to manager (grant) you say we should blindly support the clubs appointment because we are a fan/supporter but when it comes to lampard (numerous record holder for the club and has given his all for the club) you seem to be the other way round !!! why?
Coming to the stats you put see closely the number of appearance VDV has made compared to lampard every season.. its just half.Add to it that he never gets subbed . Have a look at the career at chelsea 351 app and 99 goals for a midfielder… wow!! See the amount of football he has played in last 3 season 170 appearances… wont it take a toll of the body? What he has done in these 3 seasons is gave the manager comfort zone by his fitness. being runner up just next to ronaldinhio for player of the yr award isnt it a feat!!
i feel he is among the very few very intelligent footballers. Chelsea owe him a lot for their 2 premiership titles and rightly jose did admired him a lot as did reniarri !! Show respect to the players who have given almost everything to the club !!
KTBFFH!!
TBF – What’s your point? You want Lampard to be sold? Say it straight.
Brilliant point Nihongo Blue!! Yes, show some consistency in your support.
TBF – you keep saying that Avram Grant should be given time, he should be jusged only the next season. why didn’t we apply the same logic for Khalid Boulahrouz and many other such players? you all were baying for their blood but never said ‘let’s give him time and judge him next season’.
Lampard in his role is better than Grant in his own role – Do you agree or not??
@Nihongo blue
you failed to get my point………..i have watched lampard for 3 years………………….grant for 5-6 months……………if he doesn’t fire us to trophies and attacking footy by the mid of next season as he has been claiming a lots……………..i will be the first one to slam him and thrash him……………..as for mourinho i never critisized him till he was manager caus he was getting us result and at that point i thought he really was in a bad condition caus of injuries and other stuffs but later i simply reliazed that the excuse doesn’t cut……..everyone has injuries and neither can u blame the management for 2 players out 0f 26 as you are the final person who is deciding the starting 11………………as for boulahrouz[i m not a fan of boula]he was never given any kind of time to adjust to epl caus he made mistakes in many matches he played and he was an arnesen signing………………….a similar case like alex…….jose wanted ben haim and didn’t want alex…..i don’t think it’s any secret
Keep up the good work! Look forward to reading more from you in the future. I think it will be also nice if you add “send to email” tool so people can forward the articles to their friends easily.