Comments on: Long balls – Good or Bad? http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/ The Blog of the Champions of England! Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:35:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: thecolourblue http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-31063 thecolourblue Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:22:41 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-31063 Tactics, what tactics? Do we do tactics anymore? Thought they were a thing of the past!!! We just muddle through now, don't we, in the hope we can remember the wise words of JM? I hope he's coaching the lads by phone, and on the internet. See BBC Bitewise for more info! Tactics, what tactics? Do we do tactics anymore? Thought they were a thing of the past!!! We just muddle through now, don’t we, in the hope we can remember the wise words of JM? I hope he’s coaching the lads by phone, and on the internet. See BBC Bitewise for more info!

]]> By: neo http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-29920 neo Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:37:09 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-29920 ? love terry.? want to your's form ? love terry.? want to your’s form

]]> By: The Avram Grant Interview! | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-28058 The Avram Grant Interview! | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:02:25 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-28058 [...] tactics. There is no point in making references to anything before and claiming improvement (that long ball discussion was unwarranted and boomeranged back). First reason is, it is certainly not a level playing field [...] [...] tactics. There is no point in making references to anything before and claiming improvement (that long ball discussion was unwarranted and boomeranged back). First reason is, it is certainly not a level playing field [...]

]]> By: Addy http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-27635 Addy Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:33:44 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27635 Come again?. Barca playing long balls ?. This obvious lack of understanding about the game is the biggest problem with English fans. Barca DO NOT play long balls , my friend, they play long passes.There is a huge difference between the two. A Long ball is a "Hopeful" ball played by the defence or midfield , "hoping" one of the attacking players wins the header to create a shooting chance. Its percentage football-No team , even with a great center forward is going to win all the aerial balls. It is basically "Hoof and hope" football, which requires very less "footballing" skills so to speak. A Long pass is an accurately weighted aerial pass to one of the attackers. This is not a "hopeful" ball forward , it is a pass which tries to to take advantage of unmarked space around the atatcking player. The forward "Chipped" ball over the defence is another variation of this , making full use of a pacy forward and a slow defence. Barca play a lot of long passes , so do Milan , so do Man Utd. I have lived in Spain for the last 7 years and I know what passing football is all about. Grant is trying to do the right thing by playing football the way it should be played. Whats the point in having a great squad and playing Boltonesque football?. None. Come again?. Barca playing long balls ?. This obvious lack of understanding about the game is the biggest problem with English fans. Barca DO NOT play long balls , my friend, they play long passes.There is a huge difference between the two.

A Long ball is a “Hopeful” ball played by the defence or midfield , “hoping” one of the attacking players wins the header to create a shooting chance. Its percentage football-No team , even with a great center forward is going to win all the aerial balls. It is basically “Hoof and hope” football, which requires very less “footballing” skills so to speak.

A Long pass is an accurately weighted aerial pass to one of the attackers. This is not a “hopeful” ball forward , it is a pass which tries to to take advantage of unmarked space around the atatcking player. The forward “Chipped” ball over the defence is another variation of this , making full use of a pacy forward and a slow defence.

Barca play a lot of long passes , so do Milan , so do Man Utd.

I have lived in Spain for the last 7 years and I know what passing football is all about. Grant is trying to do the right thing by playing football the way it should be played. Whats the point in having a great squad and playing Boltonesque football?. None.

]]> By: Wigan 1-2 Chelsea | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-27620 Wigan 1-2 Chelsea | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:05:22 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27620 [...] don’t know if it’s a curse. The day since Grant said we don’t play longballs anymore, we have been scoring in lobs, chips, high throughballs, highballs etc. As such, aerial attacks as [...] [...] don’t know if it’s a curse. The day since Grant said we don’t play longballs anymore, we have been scoring in lobs, chips, high throughballs, highballs etc. As such, aerial attacks as [...]

]]> By: Birmingham 0-1 Chelsea | Pizarro scores, finally! | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-27246 Birmingham 0-1 Chelsea | Pizarro scores, finally! | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:30:06 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27246 [...] Tough game. Birmingham have been playing pretty decently of late. They’ve been causing problems to likes of Man Utd and Arsenal. So we should have expected a tough fight, play at their ground. It was such a physical battle that at one point of time when I looked back all that was happening was hard tackles, loss of possession, hard tackle, loss of possesion and so on. There was considerable use of ‘long balls’ from Chelsea which was fine by me because ‘I’ don’t see them as a bad thing. [...] [...] Tough game. Birmingham have been playing pretty decently of late. They’ve been causing problems to likes of Man Utd and Arsenal. So we should have expected a tough fight, play at their ground. It was such a physical battle that at one point of time when I looked back all that was happening was hard tackles, loss of possession, hard tackle, loss of possesion and so on. There was considerable use of ‘long balls’ from Chelsea which was fine by me because ‘I’ don’t see them as a bad thing. [...]

]]> By: What a Jock http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-27155 What a Jock Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:58:23 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27155 @ USED2GONNWATCHCFC I follow you around. Now you must explain your wise comment : "Coming from Israel I am sure he can find someone to sit the exams on his behalf. lol " I am sure you know somwthing that most of us don't - so please the stage is yours : @ USED2GONNWATCHCFC

I follow you around.

Now you must explain your wise comment :

“Coming from Israel I am sure he can find someone to sit the exams on his behalf. lol “

I am sure you know somwthing that most of us don’t – so please the stage is yours :

]]> By: israeli http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-27147 israeli Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:12:18 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27147 used2gonwatchcfc 2 bad stupidty dosent hert used2gonwatchcfc

2 bad stupidty dosent hert

]]> By: used2gonwatchcfc http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-2/#comment-27142 used2gonwatchcfc Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:57:49 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27142 LOL @ Blues_Godson. @israeli: Nothing wrong with long ball or short passes. Israeli, if you real know him tell him to shut his GOB after the matches, and to concentrate his view of the game rather then having indirect pops at JM. He could live for another 1000 years AG will never achieve what JM has, and for the knowledge of the game forget it. Also tell him to take the FIFA/UEFA qualifications otherwise he may not be able to manage chelsea in Europe next season. Coming from Israel I am sure he can find someone to sit the exams on his behalf. lol LOL @ Blues_Godson.

@israeli:

Nothing wrong with long ball or short passes.

Israeli, if you real know him tell him to shut his GOB after the matches,
and to concentrate his view of the game rather then having indirect pops at JM.
He could live for another 1000 years AG will never achieve what JM has, and for
the knowledge of the game forget it.
Also tell him to take the FIFA/UEFA qualifications otherwise he may not be able to
manage chelsea in Europe next season.
Coming from Israel I am sure he can find someone to sit the exams on his behalf. lol

]]> By: Blues_Godson http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-27121 Blues_Godson Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:18:04 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27121 Long balls is a qulity strategy implored by good managers and it takes incisive and accurate timing to use....TSO was a master of this and it paid off well thanks to Drogba and his marvelous chest....but for grant to play that that strategy instead of applying it to his game plan shows he's just a shallow and stupid man and i think he's just a sneaky cunny man. Long balls is a qulity strategy implored by good managers and it takes incisive and accurate timing to use….TSO was a master of this and it paid off well thanks to Drogba and his marvelous chest….but for grant to play that that strategy instead of applying it to his game plan shows he’s just a shallow and stupid man and i think he’s just a sneaky cunny man.

]]> By: israeli http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-27081 israeli Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27081 Blue Devil and the rest It was a fair question to ask me about the real topic here (long balls or not) As you see I usually don’t comment a lot here dew to my bad spelling ' and it's only when I see a 100% stupidity then I must comment. (Like this wiki links about AG is a long ball manager) Knowing AG for so long I knew that’s cant be right, he never played long balls, so I went over to Wikipedia and learned there that any one can edit it as much as he want. Many times here I see comments that I 100% don’t agree with but they are fair for the eye of the writer but they are nor evil or stupid. Any ways if you ask me as you did, I will answer that it depend's 1. The quality of your players (if they are capable of playing short passes) 2. The quality of the team you're up against (if they allow your team to play short passes) 3. The dynamic of each game – you always know how you start and you always start with 11 guys, but the nice thing about this game we all love so much is that every game is deferent So when wining is so important you need to see the dynamic of the game and if needed you better play long balls even if it's not so nice. Knowing AG (believe me I do) he will play long passes just when there is no better way at that time. You all give here samples about the Israeli national team where Tal Ben Haim is the best player and u usually play against much better teams some times (more then you like) you don’t have any better alternatives. Blue Devil and the rest
It was a fair question to ask me about the real topic here (long balls or not)

As you see I usually don’t comment a lot here dew to my bad spelling ‘
and it’s only when I see a 100% stupidity then I must comment. (Like this wiki links about AG is a long ball manager)

Knowing AG for so long I knew that’s cant be right, he never played long balls, so I went over to Wikipedia and learned there that any one can edit it as much as he want.

Many times here I see comments that I 100% don’t agree with but they are fair for the eye of the writer but they are nor evil or stupid.

Any ways if you ask me as you did, I will answer that it depend’s
1. The quality of your players (if they are capable of playing short passes)

2. The quality of the team you’re up against (if they allow your team to play short passes)

3. The dynamic of each game – you always know how you start and you always start with 11 guys, but the nice thing about this game we all love so much is that every game is deferent
So when wining is so important you need to see the dynamic of the game and if needed you better play long balls even if it’s not so nice.

Knowing AG (believe me I do) he will play long passes just when there is no better way at that time.

You all give here samples about the Israeli national team where Tal Ben Haim is the best player and u usually play against much better teams some times (more then you like) you don’t have any better alternatives.

]]> By: Bella http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-27075 Bella Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:51:15 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27075 Further remarks on various running topics, Ivanovic lets hope will be a success but who will he replace? Bridge will stay, long balls are not negative it depends how and when you use them, Drogba will leave and Grant still annoys when he opens his mouth, be cautious with wiki as a source of accurate info! Further remarks on various running topics, Ivanovic lets hope will be a success but who will he replace? Bridge will stay, long balls are not negative it depends how and when you use them, Drogba will leave and Grant still annoys when he opens his mouth, be cautious with wiki as a source of accurate info!

]]> By: BC is unwell, I take over! | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-27074 BC is unwell, I take over! | Blue Champions - Chelsea Fan Blog Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:23:59 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27074 [...] remarks on various running topics - Ivanovic would be a success, Bridge will move to Liverpool, long balls are not negative and Drogba will move to [...] [...] remarks on various running topics – Ivanovic would be a success, Bridge will move to Liverpool, long balls are not negative and Drogba will move to [...]

]]> By: king blues http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-27073 king blues Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:13:56 +0000 http://bluechampions.com/2008/01/14/long-balls-good-or-bad/#comment-27073 avram is a fool no doubt ..........but i dont think he deserves the title TLO ok wigan and olympiakos(not in our hands not in avrams hands) dec jan 2006 07 we were drew most of our games now we won most this is no luck (appart from newcastle) if he was so damn lucky almunia would have got injured lehmann plays ARSENAL 1 2 CHELSEA or atleast we would have got a draw avram is a fool no doubt ……….but i dont think he deserves the title TLO ok wigan and olympiakos(not in our hands not in avrams hands) dec jan 2006 07 we were drew most of our games now we won most this is no luck (appart from newcastle) if he was so damn lucky almunia would have got injured lehmann plays ARSENAL 1 2 CHELSEA or atleast we would have got a draw

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