It was Ricardo Carvalho last season. This time it is Juliano Belletti. The man from Barca keeps giving reasons for us to adore him. Though it was a tight match, I don’t think Tottenham would complain about the result. After some weeks, my scoreline prediction has come good.
This was the best Chelsea match under Avram. His team selection was just right and you know what, I was impressed with the choice of substitutions and their timing. The first half was quite even with both Chelsea and Tottenham getting half chances. Spurs started very strongly with a few sharp and dangerous crosses from Lennon. As the game progressed Makelele’s presence and contribution became more and more crucial.
The special thing about this Chelsea team is that we have a number of long shooters who can blast one from 30 yards or more. Alex, Carvalho, Ballack, Lampard, Essien, Shevchenko, Drogba, Joe Cole, SWP – can all blast from long distance. It was not smart tactic to allow the time for Belletti to position himself and launch it with no challenge around. Anyway, that’s for Ramos to worry. Belletti’s scorcher just proved that he wasn’t lucky when did it once before.
For most of the time, despite all the hustle and bustle there were not too many clear cut chances for either sides. In the second half, the Chelsea were growing stronger by the minute as Tottenham were growing impatient. Berbatov and Keane did not get any service and it’s a case a better Chelsea defence than a poor Spurs midfield. I thought Anelka was brought on at the right time. I never thought Pizarro was going to score yesterday or set up one. In contrast Anelka looked promising with every single touch of his and if this match is any indication of the time to come, that 15 million is very well spent.
Belletti was brilliant all through the match, not just because of the goal. After a couple of matches, I can fairly say Malouda made a great come back to the team. He didn’t look like lacking match practice or whatever. Joe Cole was on fire. I wish he could perform like this every match.
SWP does it again. Oh! Should I eat humble pie now? Well, let me wait for few more matches to see how consistent he is. Even when he was playing in the right wing and right midfield, he became more predictable with his one-dimensional methods and that’s where the opposition got the measure of him. My gripe against SWP has been his decision making and football intelligence. A good tactical manager can always undo SWP wherever he plays. I don’t think SWP started in the AMC position as many believe, he started only in the midfield but got himself into good positions just like super Frank does. Credit should be given to Grant for allowing him to get into the central zone.
Arsenal dropping points at home once again confirmed that our benchmark should be Man Utd who thrashed a hapless, unmotivated Newcastle. Two thumbs up to those gooner fans who thought they’d beat Birmingham 5-0 or something. Liverpool draws again. I’ve in fact started to feel sorry for the scouser fans and fat Rafa.
Has anyone thought about going 100 matches unbeaten at home?
Well another win and with Arsenal slipping that makes it even better.
I did not see the game sadly.
Some said it was a typically professional, not that enthralling, grinding out style result from us whilst others that we played very well albeit Spurs were not up to much in the end. Ramos has some work to do I feel still.
Luckily I missed listening to Grant on TV with his usual “we play better football than we ever did before, pass the ball better, no more long balls anymore blah blah”.
He’s called the undertaker by some cheeky fans for a reason.
Belletti is making a habit of these strikes but it seems to me that it was aided by the defenders standing off him and the goalkeeper being less that clever. Belletti has been a very good signing for us and far more cost effective than Alves.
Our defence apparently was excellent today and Anelka made a good debut. Personally I feel JT may have a fight on his hands just assuming he can walk back in unless totally fully fit and in form.
I’m not sure if this midfield formation will work if up against a stronger team than Spurs frankly.
So lots of promise for the future and surely more signings on the way such as Ivanovic.
lol after the match, grant was asked what he felt about arsenal dropping points and him and his helper just started chatting in the middle of the interview with grant saying ‘you told me they won’ ‘no! ONE- one!’, Then he says ‘we have poor communication at chelsea’ and everyone laughed. Most human i’ve seen him thats for sure :)
also, beletti beletti beletti! alves who? :)
also also, nice to see swp picking up a bit of form, it seems to come in patches.
Ha ha gunners loosing points, we are right back in the title race now with only 4 points behind the leaders, we played pritty ok, not anything brilliant, but 2 goals, and 3 points, cant complain much. and esp the goal from juliano belletti, what a cracker. Anelka is very unlucky with 2 efforts, one saved and another wide hitting the bar, wud have been a perfect start for him. but all credit to him, playing straight in with out even having a trianing session.
@ bella,——– hahaha u missed match of the day ?? u missed grants brillaint post match analysis, lol, the BBC reporter asked him if he was happy with arsenal dropping points and he didnt have a clueee about that results and he came up with a littile joke that “no communication within chelsea” lol i cudnt stop laffing, come on he’s got a funny side as well, lol. you got a point there reagrding JT, since Alex and Riccy are well balanced and JT not fully fit and not upto his form, i doubt he wud be in the team anytime soon.
SWP has been impressive for past 2 games and i think he plays well inside the midfield rather than wide out. hes brilliant when he runs with the ball and he dont have to cross which is wat he was doing mostly in man city wen he was playing for them.
We have Bgham, everton(cup), wigan(cup), pompy and then liverpool at home on 10th of feb. Shoudnt have any problem winnig all these games including Liverpool, either Mikel or Essien should be back from AFC in time for liverpool. according the way the teams are grouped only one of the team could go through the semi finals. i would prefer ivory cost to win the AFC, it could have a postive impact on both Drogba and Kalou.
I cant see Man utd droping points, unless someone gets injured(Vidic, Rio or Ronaldo) or some other team gets lucky. Arsenal will defnitly drop points, kolo Toure’s absence might be a big blow for them in the defence. so we are still very much in the race with 8 points clear of liverpool.
I think Arsenal will start to fade a little and drops some more points.
MU look strong and could push on from here.
Missed the interview CFC of Grant but even when he tries to be funny it and sort of gets there – it’s still not enough sadly!
SWP plays better inside than on the wing I feel as his crossing is terrible most of the time.
What worries me CFC is that it’s always a given that JT should play no matter what. Why? There have been times this year when I think he has been more of a liability than an asset due to his injury. Mourinho raised the issue after the Rosenborg game according to gossip about Terry’s injury problems effecting his game and was apparently shouted down by JT.
Well I actually think he was right to question not JT’s commitment or love of the club which he was not doing but just how his injuries one after another effect the overall quality of his game.
Right now I would pick Alex but if you suggest anything like that people tend to get hysterical about doubting JT.
He’s a player not a god and should be evaluated as such, just like all the rest.
man utd beat the living crap out of newcastle 6-0 !!! it was a repeat of our match with manc…….. gave up at half time
Wow… so a lot of things to take away from this game… a negative thing would be pizarro, he looked all over the place confused nd hapless it seemed he wasnt even included in most plays.. then anelka came on and i was impressed… not bad for a debut, no nervousness at all and played really well with the plays… wow.. betelli, sevilla must be putting in the bid for the swap now… course we’ll say no… haha
ballack looked really decent except for one play… overall a pretty good match with SWP and his skillful backheel and goal
if anyone noes, im pretty bad at footy tactics, why did swp get subbed for bridge who plays defence? did they go into a 5 man defence? and if so how with three right/left backs?
bridge came on for florent malouda an d then played right midfielder. sidwell came on for SWP and played CM for 30 seconds. SWp is much more suited to playing CM-AM like a floating role
though i didn’t see the full match, i’m satisfied with the result especially with arsenal dropping points at the emirates. i expect arsenal to drop more points over the next couple of weeks but i don’t see manchester utd dropping any point with their currnt form. They are just too superb. You need to see how they confounded newcastle with 6 goals in the second half.
I also hope shaun phillips will continue scoring more goals not only because i want us to go higher on the table but also because i want his price tag to go higher so chelsea could make profit on him just in case he is for sale. I also hope avram will not run out of luck.
WARNING: pizarro must be sold as soon as possible. If another striker was given the time and space he had today, we might have won eith about 5-0
man utd revolves around ronaldo rooney and tevez stop these three and get a result but most of the teams are not good enough defensively so i think arsenal are out for sure and this time CHELSEA vs MAN UTD will be the decider unless we dont or they dont drop points
BC any news no sheva’s injury
I told you guys , I am not worried about Arsenal , the big problem is Manchester.
I was really worried about this game (Chelsea – Tott ) , even if I predicted 3-2 or 3-1 to chelsea , I was not sure because I was afraid of Tottenham , but we showed that we are good no matter which time we are playing against.
I think 4 th place will be for Everton or Man city. Liverpool suffers from internal problems big time .
I am very sorry for Torres , If he came to chelsea twos seasons ago , he would be more successful now he is playing for a coach whom will be sacked very soon. :))
HOW WAS PIZARRO PERFORMANCE ? DID HE PLAY WELL ???
DID U GUYS NOTICE WHEN PIZARRO GRAB ANELKA’S HEAD ???
HEHEHE
An allround great performance. Two great strikes settled it but I can’t help thinking it could have easily been 3-0 or 4-0. Could not ask more from Anelka on his debut, seeing as he has not trained with the squad at all. He linked up with everyone superbly and was so, so unlucky not to score. The first one pulling a great save from Cerny and the second hitting the underside of the bar. You could tell he was enjoying himself and I think after he has trained with the team and starts playing a few more matches, we will see a very lethal striker in Anelka.
I also thought that SWP was absolutely superb today, capping his perfomance off with a very well taken goal. I have been stressing that when he is playing in the centre he is much more of a threat and he has shown this in the last two games. He offered so much in attack and was also great in defence. Makelele was also superb today. He allowed minimal Tottenham attack passed and played Keane and Berbatov out of the game by doing so. Just a bit of smugness here, I said before the game that Maka must play as a DM to stop the supply of ball reaching Berbatov and Keane, and look what happened. Haha. Berbatov was barely involved at all today, not only due to Maka but also due to the great games by Alex and Carvalho. They also played very well.
Pizarro failed to impress again, and although he was linking up with the midfield more he was dropping too deep and often forgot about scoring.
Overall, great display by the Chels and I hope it continues into the next few games. Who says we need our African quartet? :P
@ Bella, well ur absolutely right, the main, theres no question of his commitment, hes a true blue, but injuries has played a major part, and hes not upto his best when he did play before getting injured. Alex and Riccy have good understanding and Alex is much younger as well, he can be long term along with Ivanovic if we did sign him, i dont think we did sign him yet, may be some sort of agreement and might join us next season. the lad got pace and his goal scoring is not bad either, so alex and Ivanovic could become a good partnership for long term.
I wont write offf arsenal yet, they still with 51 points along wid Man Utd. Once its into feb and march then we might have a huge advantage over both arsenal and Man utd, once the CL resumes and FA cup games, then with all our players back from AFC and injuries, we might have a very strong squad comparing to Man Utd and Arsenal. But i am impressed the way we are playing now, If maka can have few games, which i doubt, hes getting too old but always one of my fav, we can go on till players come back from AFC and really have go for the title.
Our 12th man is AG luck !
I can’t beleive this luck.
If JM had a fraction of it,He would have won every trophy arround.
If the cross wind speed was 0.0005 mile per hour faster,Belleti would not have scored.
If the Totenaham defender would have crossed his leggs 0.0000001 of a second sooner ,SWP wouldnt have scored.
This luck shadows even his stupidity .I mean, look what the guy does: He takes SWP a natural winger and force him to play as center midfielder !
JM wouldn’t dare do that.
This shows total lack of insight into the players talent and natural ability by AG.
He is really bad.
I addmit that the Chelsea I see today is not the same as the one of last year and beggining of this year.
Something has changed .It can’t be the players ,nore the weather,nor
RA.
It must be AG LUCK combined with the JM’S spirit floating over Stanfor Bridge.
It must be the loyalty of the Players to JM,as if to say : your body has left us ,but your spirit is with us.We do it for you JM.
What a Jock
What a Jock – are you actually serious? Luck? You have got to be joking.
Belletti’s strike was a beauty, made out of his vision and ability to hit the ball accurately and powerfully. SWP’s goal was also a great goal, made out of great link up play to provide SWP with the opportunity to shoot past the keeper. If you call that luck, you can call anything luck! Is it luck that meant that all supporters who purchased tickets were able to enter the ground? I mean, there COULD have been a problem with the ticketing system, you never know! Is it luck that there wasn’t any torrential rain that forced the match to be postponed? Your claims are ludicrous, really.
I think it is actually a stroke of GENIUS to play SWP in the centre. He has played there in the last two games and look what has happened! He has had two of his best ever games in a Chelsea shirt, and has scored in both! He could see that SWP was better off suited for a central role, because by playing through the centre he can give space to the striker(s) and provide him with better opportunities to score, and it also limits the amount of crosses his has to make, which we all know aren’t the best quality. He was my man of the match today, playing as a central midfielder. It’s not stupidity, rather an intelligent tactical decision. Would you have rather seen Sidwell play in midfield rather than SWP? Didn’t think so.
Quit with all the claims that it is luck and start admitting that maybe, just MAYBE, Avram is doing some good things. Because he is, whether you believe it or not.
:)
PPL!!! an excellent game with great team effort…cant take anything from AV this time around!!!
Makelele was MOM for me and all off you are forgeting his performance
I agree with BC. Without a doubt the best match under Avram-ten Cate era, as far as team selection & subs are concerned. SWP is in absolutely amazing form & he should continue playing behind the lone striker (Abdul) rather than in right-wing, till Lamps comes back in the team. I thought Abdul was very unfortunate not to score a goal in his debut as well.The Arse has dropped points as well. McLeish does it again against the French!
Nubskeh – Correct me if im wrong but Makelele always plays in a DM position.
How often and how frequent do Arsenal drop points at home in order to merit that ‘again’?
We saw the same thing the last time SWP played in the middle. He’s not so wastefull when he’s in the middle, is he? He might be better suited to playing against a holding midfielder or center-back than against a full-back. This should be a change we make a bit permanent, until the big guns return from Africa.
I have a couple of questions… How did Ballack play? and who captained the side?
great performance from the boys. kudoes to the team and congrats to Grant and co for getting the best out of the boys.
SWP in the centre- not the first time in chelsea. if i remember, at the tail end of last season, particularly that second leg match againt spurs at WHL, he did play a central role and scored a brilliant goal. I said on wed that his energies and pace would be better served in the middle and am glad its happening. A typical case of neccessity being mother of invention. Mikel and essien and lamps’ departure is forcing us to improvise. long may SWP continue to propsper there- the lad has such great attitude and i can only be happy for him.
man utd, invincible? I don’t think so. remember bolton and west ham recently? Its still a long way and i believe squad for squad we still have the best one in the EPL and dare i say in the world.
belleti has more than proven that the 25m pound demand for alvez would have been such a travesty. alvez who????????
Pizarro- i still maintain that most of us are not being fair to piz. yesterday clearly saw him playing with more commitment than last tuesday. we should not be judging him when he is being forced to play as a lone striker- he is no drogba or anelka. lets judge him when he fails to perform consistently when paired with a lead striker. he can’t be said to be worse than sheva in his first season, can he? The guy has lots of strength- it takes a good manager to know how to set his stall in a way as to get the best out of his players.
@what a joke- is that suposed to be tongue in cheek or you really mean those comments? Knowing you, i feel it is the former rather than the latter.
i know makalele is a good midfieldr but i still think mikel is better. Mikel’s passes and crosses are world class and i think thst was what our midfield missed today. he also holds the ball for long periods allowing us to gain more ball possession than the opponent but overall, maka tried today and i was impressed by our general performance.
Lampard and terry must have to fight their way back to the first team because swp has been outstanding in the midfield plus alex and belletti have been superb at the back. i think the future is bright for Anelka at chelsea and pizarro should already be packing his bags. he has been a failure upfront. I wonder if kalou will ever play in any game this season because he’ll have to struggle with sheva and anelka…..drogba’s place is already sure…lol
In conclusion, i hope arsenal drops more points because i don’t see Man united dropping any point soon…. except if tevez, rooney and ronaldo can be injured at the same time.
am glad lots of people are now realising the quality we have in alex. right from last copa, some of us started saying that the boy was a quality acquisition for chelsea. lots of folks sneered claiming he was too slow etc.
Again AG trying to fool us. yes Chelsea deserved the win, against a Tottenham that needs more then a Berbakov, once you eliminate this player Spurs have no depth, kean is playing bad, but who cares.
About AG, says in the express tpoday, “that people do not think that we changed, we no longer play THE LONG BALL??????????? when di we played the long ball??? or is it when a defender under pressure clears his are and kicks the ball up front and for one reason or another ends up with a Chelsea player, is this considered LONG BALL??, no doubt this guy AG is desperate for recognition, who on EARTH is he trying to FOOL?? what a plonker, JM never played long ball, he used to shut shop,when in front.
@Nubskeh
moving SWP to the middle, is nothing new, even Stuart Pearce in ManCity did it, where is the genius about it?
No doubt that SWP is in great form now, but is position at midfield didnt produce , what you claim, the freedom for the strikers to score, after all it was a defender that scored the first, a long range kick, prove that the stroikers weher not penetrating the totts defence with your so called “free spaces for the strikers”. Anyway it was a good result, 4 points behind it is good but lets wait and see.
Even i would risk to be world champions if i manage Brazil.
Again he tries to convince that “We have changed we no longer play the LONG BALL”, what crap he comes out with does he really believes that the press or for that matter anyone else, is going to accept that he is as good as JM? AG lives in kookoo land, he hasnt yet brought a player that he can say it is my player and I made him. Bought anelka but he is an already formed and a talented goal scorer not a product of AG.
At least JM made JT, FL, DD, improved Essien, made Carvalho, Ferreira, would do the same thing to Malouda, Mikel etc.
AG SHUT YOUR GOB<I am getting fed up with you , yes we are supporters and spectators of a football match not of a CIRCUS.
I completely agree with you. Grant is abramovich’s puppet but he has a lot of luck.
avram has done the biz .Im sick of ppl coming out and saying stupid things about his football know how.Last season with all the injuries we done naff all ,this year were flying with more players unavailable.Lets get off his back and give him 100% of our support.just remember were we would without roman and all the lolly chins up
@25.
We all agree Alex is quality, I mean we saw him against the Arsinines in the last Champions League. But you’re quick to forget his flaws, the pace- or the inadequacy of it, his lack of aerial presence, which are the areas where JT trump him. Plus he’s captain. So when he’s fit and ready, he’ll step back in the team
Hmm, Mr. Grant. We just have to wait and see. With Manu’s sizzling form , I wouldn’t complain about Luck. Don’t mess with mama, she’s a b**ch and she can take her wares someone else, say Arsinine.
@ NUBESKEH
No argument with you.You are correct.
I was referring to others in this blog who are blind .
See the logic of Bella and particularly that of USED2GONWATCHCFC to understand what I mean.
These two are among those who will live for ever under the JM “spirit”.
They will never give credit to an unknown entity,irrespective of how good he is.
For a very simple reason : if they do give credit and acknolwedge AG, by default they will lower JM status making him Blood and Flesh like the rest of us.
Can’t you see you have here a cult of JM followers ?!
Even the SWP case is not new,he played in this position with City few times ! How come JM didn’t discover it ?only USE2GONWATCHCFC knows.
Let me tell you why: He didn’t even try, he was not interested in changing this boring football of his for no one.He was not interested in a style of the game,but rather on the outcome alon.He knows nothing else.
I will go even further . I have been watching Chelsea for years now .
The game which we are playing now under AG is by far superior to what we have seen last year and the begining of this year with JM.
We win ,but with a style.We win while enjoying the game itslef .
Yes ,AG is getting there.
And remember what I say now- Anelka ,as old as he is,will become a top player with Chelsea,surpassing Drogoba ! He has what Drogoba has ,but he has superior skill and technical ability. Chelsea format suits him great!
We may not be able to catch MU or Arsenal this season,but we are going to be there and chase ,while witnessing a transformation into a new era.
And last word to USE2GONWATCHCFC – you will never mange anything
since you can’t even manage your own mind.You have eyes but you can’t see.
sorry for my language , but you guys are stupid , if Avram was not roman’s friend , you would call him hero right now .
all good results , good games . what do you expext form him ? Tottenham could not score against us while they bothered Arsenal so much so that Wenger was happy with Draw at Emaratis stadium .
I do not know whose poppet he is , I do not know who choose players or formation and I do not care. we are third while we did not even hope for forth after mourinho departure.
I am sorry for chelsea for having these kinds of fans. however, after Roman’s arrival it is realy tough to distinguish real chelsea fans.
Maysam,
You are wrong. Clark would not have fared worse than Avram. Come on, can’t you see that this team is thriving because of the invincible spirit JM put in them? Come on folks. Chelsea would not have fared worse under Steve clark i can bet my last p.
come on :)) it is funny spirit of mourinho ? so how come porto did not CL again ? where is that spirit ? what spirit ? so Manchester can hire me and win EPL becasue they have Fergusen spirit ? :)) tha’ts funny .
Spirit :))
so we won EPL because players had Ranieri spirit ?
as a chelsea fan for years , even when some of you guys did not know in which league chelsea was playing , as a person who worship mourinho , I respet Avram as a good coach and I support him wholeheartedly and strike back when people want to spoil his personality blindly .
by the way, how come mourinho spirit could not help us this season when he himself was on the bench ?
“he hasnt yet brought a player that he can say it is my player and I made him.” – 26 – used2gonwatchcfc
Anyone else find this statement utterly rediculous? Don’t get me wrong I aint to Grant lover, however you expect his to have revitalized the whole squad, built his own players from the ground up, and still challenge in all competition’s in just 3 months.
Cut the guy some slack, he is just one man after all. Even with all the millions at his disposal JM didn’t do all those thing’s in his first year, let alone first 3 months.
@31 What a Jock
Jm discovered SWP can also play in the midfield. Example Westham – Chelsea – 1- 4. He scored twice in that match and about two other matches he played similar role under Morinho. Go get the season review dvd and watch it over. The problem with SWP is inconsistence performance. If he can live up to that recent performance then he should be chelsea favourite soon.
The team is doing well and what will need to put up about 5-8 wins and then we will see how the season will unfold.
Up Blues
i’m pretty sure alot of chelsea fans would never have been happy after jose left regardless of who came in. We had the best and i guess it’s going to take a while before a lot of devoted jose fans are going to understand that not everyone’s as good as him.
@ What a Jock
LOLOLOL
what a silly comment yours “Waht a Jock” you a joke personified, no nothing about football, was AG that asked you to write this?
Yes anyone that manges a good team risks to do well, even this AG will do well only and only coz he has very good players.
AG in a normal club wouldnt be able to RUN THE BATH for the players let alone a team. Lets see how many cups he will wun this year.
38 – blue_victoryAUS
LOL in the first year he (JM) only won the EPL title from start to finish in 1st place,
AG is a clown that just does as he told by RA.
34 – Maysam
After Porto won CL 7 palyers left Porto to other clubs 3 came to Chelsea, get your facts right.
3 months is more than enough to stamp your style, and his (AG) style is not what he so frequent claims, attacking football, ask him about the games agaainst Villa, QPRT, Everton etc, the man is only luck no talent, but yes the players are doing well but not because of him but because of themselves, a better salary next summer when they leave for other clubs, so might as well perform well now.
He must learn to close his GOB when he speaks after matches, he is only fooling RA, thats all his comments are addressed to RA, AG knows he can not fool the real fans.
UP THE BLUES
@31 -what a jock
‘He has what Drogoba has ,but he has superior skill and technical ability. Chelsea format suits him great!’
you can’t be more right than the righter! i sincerely believe that he will surpass drogba especially with the added skill of dribbling and pace and if that comes to light we have 2 powerhouse to terrorise other teams.
AG may not be charismatic but if it’s luck to shine now please let it continue. i’d rather chelsea be winning while we rant about AG rather than chelsea drawing or losing as that will be double commotion. JM will always be a legend, hero and spirit with Chelsea however we have to move on no matter the allusions AG tries to make. if it makes chelsea successful, i wish him more of the success and so called luck.
Man Utd seems unstoppable but if going so called AG luck, then i keep my fingers crossed (&)
28 – neko cfc
Last year with the same sort of injuries and with a harder calender, chelsea was second only to ManU, this year with all the money available to AG, and the so called attacking football, lol, we are 3rd behind MU and Arse.
31 – What a Jock
There is no need to accept or not to accept or for that matter recognise AG work, there is none, even if I accept his doing the inevitable just working for the results, just like JM, no one will ever be able to lower JM achievements, not even when someone, thats common knowledge, publicised in the press the JM affair with another woman., as it came in the press it disappered as quickly.
no Jock unless AG wins 6 troffies in the same time as JM he will always be compared.
However trying to compare ag to JM , it is INDEED lowering the talent and capacity fo JM.
AG looks like he came from a circus, everytuime he opens is GOB, is only trying to convince himself and RA that we pass the ball, we play attacking football, not LIKE BEFORE, LOL, LOL what a sly sly character.
and ungrateful he really believes he is in the same category as the best.
Thats all Jock, lets see how many troffies he gets.
I think Hen Ten Cate needs some praise for his work . SWP playing a CM role could be his idea.
used2gonwatchcfc
dude , I just gave you an example i knew what happened to Porto however even if all of them stayed there including mourinho , they could not repeat that championship again
listen to thsi , I said , when Mourinho himself was on the bench we did not get good results , how come when he is there, his spirit does not work , but when he left , his spirit suddenly took over :)) and we started winning :)) , I like him very much , but I like chelsea more than him .
and about Anelka, he is the best striker that chelsea’s coaches have ever bought for chelsea .
used2gonwatchcfc : you are talking about luck , you said Avram is in luck , let me tell you something , do you know hwo Porto won CL with mournih ? take a look at the goal that Porto scored against Manchester. it was an obvious offside. Mourinho was lucky too if that goal was announced offside by ref , Porto did not win CL and Mourinho was still in Porto .
at least Avram is so unlucky that Terry and Cech and Lampard and Drogba was out of his team for a while .
About speaking english , I do not want him to speak english fluently I want him to wan with chelsea . there are many coaches in championship league who can speak fluently :)) but …
Luck is a part of soccer .
about Pizarro , your favortie striker Drogba , it took one season for him to start scoring. so Pizarro has still time, he is very good I saw hin Bayern . he needs time , he does not score, he is good at holding ball and create opportunity for other players. oviously he can not show himself with Anelka and Drogba.
he is good with Sheva and SWP .
usedtogowatchcfc i hope you never go back to watch CFC you know nothing about football period and chelsea do not deserve supporters about you. Yes AV is not as charismatic like Moanino but he has done very well:
1. Ballack is excelling under AV than under Mourinho
2. Sheva is scorng goals and playing much better
3. over the christmas season we had more injuries than last year, we have lots of players missing right now coz of injuries and ANC but the team is still doing well and scoring goals even SWP is beginning to deliver
for a change if you seem something positive you should be smart enough to acknowledge, we all love JM but it does not mean we have to criticise Grant unnecessarily especialy if he is doing well in the circumstances
As for your point about millions avalable to him, he is only had 13 days of transfer season, how can he change a team in 13 days. Anelka is a good signing, JM would have spet 35M on bebatov or something like that.
Like I said before lets give Grant time before we judge him, lets see where we are at the end of the season.To be honest I like the fact that we are winning games quietly without all the public fiasco that used to follow Moanino around.
maysam, ‘ll really appreciate it if you stop posting disparaging remarks about mourinho. Hate it or not MOURINHO WAS THE BEST GOD DAMN THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO CHELSEA FC.
plus you’re saying Anelka is the best striker we’ve signed… what about drogba? Drogba is better than anelka any day. Drogba also scored free kicks last season and not one single penalty.
used2gonwatchcfc & moyo – If you are so invlove with Mourinho then wait a few month’s until he has a new job and follow him to that team. I understand your bitter about his departure, but for god’s sake shut up. Your argument’s have been reiterated 100 times over in 100 different threads, they are now outdated and invalid. You hate Grant so much? Fine either change team’s or put up with it and let your love for Chelsea out shin your misplaced hate for Grant.
SWP has in fact played in the midfield before pre Grant, this is not some new first time tactical development of great import much as some would like to attest.
The trouble is that whilst at times it worked and SWP looked spectacular at other times put in the same position it failed and so he went back out to the wing again.
The problem for SWP is that he is so inconsistent in his performances which leads to him being swapped to the wing and then shifted somewhere else and then back again.
As for JT, I think he should have competition for his place rather than just be an automatic shoe in just because he is JT. That’s never a good enough reason.
If Ivanovic comes in, whom is he meant to be replacing exactly? The excellent Bellitti? Or someone else?
Anelka played well and looked very sharp, lets hope he stays that way.
Your new look site looks very nice BC. Congratulations.
Sly the Blue Spy : you are the man .
moyo :
First of all I am not disparaging anybody here. everyone knows I like Mourinho. to me
after signing Gianfranco Zola , coming mourinho to stamford bridge was the best thing happened to chelsea. I agree with that. however, his departure was the worst thing that happened to chelsea. not becasue he was mourinho because it happened at wrong time . but i am very happy that they hired a right man for the job who is Avram. (at least untill the end of the season)
there is a fanous quota which says , “All coaches in the word , has been sacked or will be sacked “. I prefer to support my club instead of coaches.
about signing Anelka .
Drogba ? ok let me tell you about that.
you could say Vialli but not Drogba .
about freekicks , take alook at Zola to see how is better.
Vialli and Anelka and Zola are the most professional strikers who have ever played for chelsea .
Drogba just played for one famous club before comnig to chelsea . Mareseille is not really that famous
but Vialli for JUV and Sampdoria which was one of the best at that time.
look at Anelka, Drogba yearn to be like Anelka.
PSG , Liverpool , Arsenal , Ral Madrid he is a pure professional player. he proved himself everywhere .
I do not care who mourinho is , he was my special one but now Avram is my special one . I cheered for Drogba this season , but I boo him next season when he leaves chelsea. to me Joe Cole is better than Ronaldinho , and Ben haim is better Nesta. I am a chelsea fan not a Mourinho fan .
about most pro strikers , I have to include Geroge Weaha too
A cult of JM worshippers …. LOL LOL LOL …….. I’ve been called worse…… hilarious …… keep the debates going on …
But good match against Spurs tho…….. I apppreciate the win…. even if it did need some luck and individual talent .. better than needing a ref’s bad callor an OG……
But then again I’d like to see some crafted goals from open play like we used to have….. wingers opening up defences … and Lamps swooping in…. more corner kicks being utilized effectively….
more fluid counter-attacks ……… these things have been a-lacking in the past months…..
Maysam, may I correct you : AG is TLO i.e. The Lucky One
He is not and can never be TSO : The Special One ,
It is all important to separate the two men who are so different
JoseHoliday : As i said I am a chelsea fan not a mourinho fan . I do not know mourinho anymore , who was he ?
by the way , I mentioned before , Avram and mourinho are completely different and don’t forget real chelsea fans are very different from some people whom you read their posts here.
I can guarantee most of you guys knew chelsea after roman’s or mourinho’s arrival .
God damn you that spoil real chelsea fans.
I LIKE CHELSEA RIGHT NOW THEY ARE WINNING , right now Avram is my specila one great results , good games without big names.
JoseHoliday : where are u from ?
do you watch FSC or goal TV , when they analyse chelsea games when they score only one goal they say chelsea is stil playing like mourinho style :)) but when they score 2 or 3 goals and show an attacking games they don’t mention Mourinho anymore.
maybe tomorrow Mourinho joins Milan and next year they win CL with mourinho but I say Avram is still my special one , do u know why becasue he sits on chelsea bench that means special to me .
some mebers said SWP used as CM not by Avram by Ten Cate . dude , it is a group decision . do u think mourinho did everythnig alone ? I told BC over and over again , force mebers to enter a little information about themselves , this way stupid posts don’t unnerve other users. I said before unfortunatly some of posts here seem to be written by 12 or 13 years old kids. it is very bad to say but most chelsea fans do not know anything about chelsea , not only chelsea they do not even know very simple facts . before during Bates tenure when chelsea fans talked together , you could learn some valuable information , eventhough the number of fans was very small , they were very knowledgable. I bet you that if you put a picture of Chris sutton here , most members do not even know who he is . sometimes I envy Liverpool fans. when I wear a chelsea shirt witn AUTOGLASS ad , some chelsea fans tell me this is a chelsea shirt , no surprise if some of them be involved here .
dude , if you have been watching chelsea games for 4 years just come here and predict the games and write your formation , or at least do not write destructive notes about some of chelsea staff or players.
BC , can you build something Powered by vBulletin . if you need some coding I can help you .
hey maysam, your previous comment at 53 i must say is very stupid. How will you ever compare drogba with anelka. Drogba has been the highest goal scorer in france(with marseille) and in England last season.
You also said that anelka is better because he has played at real, arsenal, liverpool,bolton……. let me break it down for you. Only useless players get tossed around. True world class players don’t play in more than 3 clubs in their careers….highest 4. look at henry, zidane, ballack, terry, lampard, ronaldo,
essien, ronaldinho, gerrard, shearer, cantona, pele, maradona, drogba and an endless list of others. Great footballers spend long durations at a club and become legends there.
Anelka has played in almost 8 clubs and clubs buy when they need him only to sell him off later after his first or second season. He is not a legend at any club. Go to marseille (where drogba won french player of the year) and see if the fans can ever forget him, even here at chelsea, he has established a big name for himself. Every time, it’s always drogba, drogba, drogba. He gave us both cups last season with his goals in both finals. Ask defenders to choose which name is more terrifying “Drogba” or “Anelka.”
Lastly, check out the latest post at http://www.chelseafc.com and you’ll see how Anelka has been acknowledging and worshipping Drogba. he said he can’t wait to play beside such a great striker. He’s also excited that Drogba speaks french.
I will answer you later , I have to go out right now , but for now ,
well ofcourse Anelka praises him , I praises Drogba too ( As long as he plays for chelsea , after that fuck him)
dude as fars as i know Henry has played for Monaco ,JUV , Arsenal and Barca m god know what’s next :))
I will answer you later otherwise my gf will leave me like mourinho , I will answer you later. :))
I personaly prefer Anelka . dude being the best goal scorer is not that important when you are the only target man in the team. bye for now
by the way , if drogba scored i do not know exactly 76 in 100ish games , Vialli scored 48 goals in only 80 games. so don’t tell me he is the best striker in chelsea
Maysam
Your whole logic is flawed. I’m a fan of Chelsea FC before we started winning anything and in fact when we were sh*t. As true fans, we should express what we want to. Your remark that Avram Grant is your new special one because he is in the Chelsea bench now, is a very childish approach. Or at worst, it is like being a w*ore. Anyone comes and you start eulogising them, right?
Why was Capello sacked? because the fans did not like him and they made their voices heard. Are they not fans because they did not support their title winning manager? If there are people who do not support Avram, that does not mean they are mourinho fans or anything. I’m a hard core chelsea fan who does not like Avram.
don’t post when you’re drunk. btw, this theme is fantastic!!!
Maysam – please quit talking about the old times as if you were the only chelsea fan to survive from the pre-Roman era. Vialli was chasing lost causes. How many matches were won by Drogba and how many were won by Vialli?
thanks stevens, now let maysam answer that question.
@ USED2GONWATCHCFC
Not AG asked me to write it ,but rather people like yourself who are so dam blind.
People like yourself who have no sense of judgment,who are taken so easily into believing in
ridicule and glorifying it to the level of invincibilty.
People like yourself who hates people with no reason ,without any logic without any foundation.
Let assume for a sec that he is undermining JM work in Chelsea in his comments.So what? Is JM is somekind of an untouchable GOD who can’t be criticize?
The truth is that AG never criticize JM achievements,but rather the style of football Chelsea was playing.And he is right.And he is trying to change it.
People like yourself who witness something changing ,yet will refuse to addmit it.
People like yourself who claim Chelsea played attacking football ,yet, this team couldn’t have put together more than 3 passes going forward before losing the ball.Yes ,they were passing the ball but backwards. Chelsea played NEGETIVE football ,that is JM contribution to this wonderful game. JM is not the first 1 who win trophies playing this way.The Italian in the 60′s introduced it
as a reply to their lack of skill.Yes ,even they have changed since than,but not JM.
Chelsea was allright and played positive football in his 1st season .With stronger midfield and defence but a fast moving and skilled forwarders they were lethal.That was Reneiry creation with added strength by JM.That all changed from his 2nd season and deteriorated further in the 3rd and 4th.He had done nothing to reverse it .He was happy with his trophies and so are you.
I am glad he was shown the door.Chelsea was the most boring team in town with players worth hundreds of millions.That was not the football which legacy is build on.
That was not the style of football that hundreds of millions were given to him to develope .
Show me one player which he bought for his potential and developed it as Ferg and Arsen are
doing.He only bought an established expensive players to fit his aim.
He cried like a baby when he was not givem the money to buy TBH.As if this guy could have changed the outcome.What a jock.
I am not an AG supporter,nor JM supporter.Managers comes and go.
I don’t care how they look ,what they say and how they say it.
Yes ,JM and AG are extremly opposit.
AG is boring yet his team is entertaining.
JM was entertaining but his team was boring.
You chose between them.I made my choice.
Chelsea is what I care about.
And what I see now is to my liking.What I see now is showing signs that AG is indeed trying to
do it differently.And I salute him for that.
I was terrified like you and many others when this unknown quantity was given the job.
But I am not anymore.He has shown that he can do it.
As a matter of fact someone made a statistical comparison between AG and JM of last year and this year. The numbers favored AG by far.
Open your eyes and see what infront of you ,not what your biased mind and emotional self
are telling you.Wake up.
Maysam – maybe you should let your girlfriend be by your side in order to let you write something sensible. Drogba can not be compared to Anelka nor AG be compared to JM. You will need to go check on archives on who is the best between Vialli and Drogba based on their performance in a chelsea jeasey. What each one of them brings to Chelsea.
No body wants you to like JM but do not say any nonsense about him. we are going to weigh him(AG) up at the end of the season. Money has been given to him and i wish him well so far we are winning which suppose to be the most important thing for the fans.
Blue For Life
@ 67 pls admit that you dont know football. under JM chelsea never played negative football. we have always played superb football. you are simply following propaganda. i pity you.
Stevens @ 64 – Of all people, seeing as you have been supporting the club for a long, long time, you should understand the importance of the fans’ support. This is simply what Maysam is doing – supporting Chelsea. And by doing this, he is supporting the manager, Avram Grant. I don’t think you can label him as “childish” by supporting Chelsea and its’ manager, can you?
Why are people saying that you can’t compare Avram Grant and Jose Mourinho? Of course you can, because they have things in common – they are both football managers who have managed Chelsea. That’s two things similar already. A difference is that Jose won 2 premier league titles, however another difference is that Grant has been at Chelsea for just over 3 months while Jose was here for just over 3 years. And finally, one major similarity is that in their time they have both been successful in getting good results! For those who fail to see any success in Grant’s reign so far, then give him time. You can’t judge him in bad light until he has been at the club a sufficient amount of time to directly influence the way the players think and how they perform on the pitch.
Sly the Blue Spy @ 49 – Great post mate, agree with you completely. I smiled whilst reading your comment, which is a good thing, as finally common sense seems to be prevailing. Cheers. xD
@What a Jock
you are a sad individual “Jock”. I do not hate AG I dont idolise JM, but yes AG is always digging at the past, and before, obviously it is an indirect jube at JM.
I tell you something, by having jibes at the BEFORE, and the PAST , AG gives me the idea that he is only trying to convince RA that it was the right decision to have sacked JM and replace him with himself (AG), this tells me that AG in his conversations with RA, must have undermined JM, and we all know that against Rosenborg he managed to convince RA. Ok it is just a theory but very cemented by his (AG) comments after the matches.
I go to Chelsea matches everytime they play in Stam Bridge, I am not a armchair fan, and have been doing it since the time Chelsea won the CUP WINERS CUP, if you recall. Also I remeber Zola, Vialli, ALAN HUDSON, Peter Osgood, R Marsh etc etc.
So if you are not AG or if you are told to write on his behalf, get the facts right. It is good that chelsea is winning, no doubt, but AG is TLO (the lucky one) how come he is so good and no other team went for him before Portsmouth? You know why?? because he has friends and through friendship he managed one of the top posts in football, nOW if that is not luck you tell me what luck is. Then he got Ten Cate, a guy kicked out of Barcelona because of his charater and behaviour, went to Ajax and they coouldnt wait to get rid of him, he is a bully. Anyway AG in my opinion and analysing his body language and his comments comes across as a very sly man, and I dont like that. In football there are very little secrets the tactics are copied and pasted by every manager all over. Xmas 2006 and 2007 were the same in matter of injuries, in 2006 even worst because some players like SWP were out of form amongst others. So get your facts right.
Regarding Anelka comparison with Drogba, ok I like Anelka as a goal scorer, but he is miles away from Dogbra.
Dogbra is all out striker and a hard worker to the collective rather than Anelka that is a forward but does not help the defence at all. Besides all the clubs he played, it is a sign of a good , but only good player, and in Real Madrid he was a flop, in Turquey he didnt do that well either, but ion Chelsea he may do much better because he has the players to feed his pace and to open defences.
Regarding Drogba JM saw his potential in Marseille, hence the reason Chelsea paid £24 million, first season very poor , second season the best goal scorer, and that was JM man to man management and motivation and now Dgbra is a recognised world class player, thans to JM, I could tell you the same about half the chelsea team, but I have to go.
Congratulations BC the new look is very good .
used2gonwatchcfc @ 71 -
Will ignore the first 75% of your comment because it makes no sense, and no point getting into an argument because you obviously will never give the guy a chance, which makes me sigh at the thought that you might be a real Chelsea supporter.
Anyways, how can you say Anelka is miles away from Drogba? (Or for some reason, you call him “Dogbra”) Anelka has proven he can score goals consistently in many leagues, which is exactly what we need. We all know Didier is a great striker, but if Anelka stays until at least the end of his current contract he might be able to prove himself to be even better than Didier, because he will be able to score goals and create goals at an incredible rate. Every Premier League team would welcome him with open arms into their club because they know he is a great goalscorer. Did you watch the match against Spurs? You say he doesn’t help out with defence, but Anelka was back for every corner and free kick and was tracking back every time Tottenham had the ball, which shows his great teamwork even as a striker. Strikers aren’t required to help out defence you know, their main purpose is to score goals. But Anelka did the earlier against Spurs and will do the latter on a consistent rate in the games to come.
used2gonwatchcfc @ 71
completely agree with you. i see your point. most of the chelsea ‘fans’ have just sold their souls. avram is a man of very malicious intentions. he got the job ONLY because he was roman’s friend. he is a nobody under the shield of ten cate, steve clarke and a great team.
and for god’s sake, don’t compare drogba and anelka. drogba is a far better and complete player than anelka. the recent furore of chelsea ‘fans’ about anelka explains my earlier statement about soul-selling.
So now Drogba is not so good anymore ehn? What is wrong with you peeps. Drogba is wonderful, although I’m not a big fan. Anelka can be HUGE no doubt and he probably will, but no point getting into these arguments just because Drogba maybe leaving soon. For all we care, the fact that he may need to prove a point against Anelka may make him stay.
It’s like hounding Lampard now that Ballack is on form.
Concerning tea decisions, no one does it alone, it’s becoming recurrent that after a woeful performance, Mr. Grant gets the knives, but when we do good, it’s either Ten Cate’s Technique or Steve Grant’s motivation or the players. I’m still not convinced about Mr. Grant, but we are winning. Maybe Charisma is over rated.
Concerning the decisions, sorry not tea decisions. Although in a sense…
Hi guys,
I think we should leave Ag alone for now
Lets just analyse him from his 1st day in charge…He was emotionless, clueless about substitutions n looked like a disaster in his fist few games
After 3 months in charge..He looks more confident, has started showing lots of emotion on the field ,has started to dress smart , is getting tactics n substitutions right..a good improvement from the AG of September
Then..Results…he has got the results for us…we are alive n kicking on all 4 fronts for now
All in all..AGs progress card isnt bad
As for his comments, let him say what he wants..most of the mangers give out utter bullshit in their press conferences..fans arent blind..he can claim anything he wants..we the fans will judge him..one thing is sure..our attacking style is changing..not completely CHANGED..changing..if i say theres no change, I d be lying..theres been a small change..but not to the level that AG claims
JM is a Chelsea legend n will b remembered FOREVER..AG or RA cant change that..
AG is doing a decent job now..He should concentrate on his job n try to get better at it..rest everything else will fall into place
Like him or not, hes the manger now…as fans we should support him…we can rip him apart at the end of the season if he totally flops…but for now hes doing alright n we should appreciate it..
The least we can do is atleast not crucify him when hes doing well
Cheers
maysam, do you when i started supporting Chelsea? who told you all of us started cheering the blues when Roman came along?
When did you start supporting Chelsea, tell me?
Stevens, you need to post more. What a classic post!
maysam, haha u think u are a cheslea fan cause u know who Chris sutton is? u are not a chelsea fan untill u know a chelsea fan. go and read about chelsea fans in UK and u will se that no other club has fans that is that much loyal to a team. i fight for chelsea and i know what a chelsea fan is. u sound like a wannabe. save some money travel to london take the tube and get of at fullham broadway and watch a game at stamford brige, sit in the shed end and then come write som stuff about chelseafans.
@ use2gonwatchcfc
Thank you for your confession.It is what I thought it is.Baseless ,unlogical and unproven .
I bet your knowledge of AG & RA friendship have the same roots.
Can you tell me ,what a Russian oligarch worth 23 billion dollars and an unknown ,a former national coach of a tiny nation, has in common? Where do they meet ?what do they say to each other?(and why can’t you find such a “big ” friend? luck?- Luck you creat,you don’t wait for it to happen).
I suspect it was the other way around. RA was determine to rid of JM if things don’t improve
and brought AG as a contingency plan.Why AG? simple : He can’t bring a caliber while JM is still working.AG was available and from what he had found out about him ,he believed the guy could perform the care taker job untill a serious manager would be found.
Hows that for a theory?
I guess not different than yours,though it has more logic to it than the one you prescribe .
Do you really believe that RA is so stupid that AG can convince him that JM is not good?
If he was happy with JM,why throw him away? Do you really think that his friendship(if any) was
more important to him than Chelsea,the club that he bought ,invested hundreds of millions
and is determine to build his legacy on?
You must be a bit smarter than that.
“I tell you something, by having jibes at the BEFORE, and the PAST , AG gives me the idea that he is only trying to convince RA that it was the right decision to have sacked JM and replace him with himself (AG), this tells me that AG in his conversations with RA, must have undermined JM…”
This is another “fact” of yours. Well ,if he can’t convince you, why do you think he can convince RA?
If ,as you suggest, Chelsea is playing now as it did with JM ,don’t you think RA can see it as well?
Do you (like many others here) have some special talent that he doesn’t have?
Surely RA can see that AG is not changing anything .If he was bored before and he still is, no talking can change it.
You see ,anyway you look at it your “facts” just don’t add up.You feed yourself on rumors and unfounded stories and build your attitude accordingly.Wake up my friend -time to move on.
As far as Anelka vrs Drogoba.
I never claimed Anelka is bettter than Drogoba.
Drogoba is a world class striker.No question about it.
He has great shots from all angels ,is working hard ,supporting the defence ,you name it he is there.He is a blessing to any team.
Yet, Drogoba has no finess ,he is not skillful, technically speaking and therefore will fit only certain type of a game plan-that of a lone striker that the team is working to get the ball at him.Here comes Lampard (with similar defficiencies)as the main supplier.Isn’t this the pattern in the 2nd and the 3rd season?
That can not be said on Anelka.He is much more skillful and not much less formidable.
I said that for the new Chelsea ,as I see it developed , Anelka will suit better and might surpass Drogoba in scoring.He gives a new dimension to the team.
The problem with Anelka during the years was his problematic behavior.He really had all the quality to be one of the best,but never reached this level and has only himself to blame.
Maybe now,as he sees the end of his carrier around the corner,he finaly decided to settle down and prove he is good as he believe he is.If that is the case than Chelsea is on its way to reclaim its glory . Together with Drogoba ,that might be an interesting frightening scenario.
‘What-A-Jock’
Any billionaire would have dozens of yes men around them. I was a yes man. roman and TSO had ego issues of who should listen to whom. So I tried to take advantage of this split using my acquaintance with the billionaire. there is one more thing that is common between us, it starts with R and ends with N and has also L and G in between. That’s how I got this massive job using his cunning brains. Otherwise what was the probability of me getting a 20 million pounds a year job in Sep 2007? ZERO. I wanted to make money and made the best use of my connections. I have no passion of Chelsea at all. As far as roman goes, he could be a billionaire but still he is human. Roman has fallen for me. kings and emperors have lost their kingdoms and empires because of various things. This is not a theory. This is the truth.
@ 81. Wath?
what* hehe
Stevens : this one is easy to answer , just compare players who are playing around Drogba with players who were playing around Gullit . that’s your answer. Lampard , the second best player in the world , Ashly the best left back in England , Makelele best DM in the world , Essien the best in France , Cech best in the world , Carvaliho best CD in Europe , Robben one of the best in Holland , tell me about players who were with Vialli , you are a chelsea fan.
What a Jock 67 : you are right . moreover , Avram is not that kind of people who undermine other people .
MourofEssien : I have been supporting Chelsea since Gullit bought Zola . 1996
BlueFan nr:1 I am not talking about all Chelsea fans .
you guys are pecking at Avram without any valid reason. but you know what , the interesting is that noone give a damn to what you say :)) . i am very happy thatr you guys go away when Drogba leaves chelsea . :)) .
a player who announces in media that he wants to leave his club has to go te hell.
If you guys like to see attacking games, should support players like Anelka not Drogba.
i may seem funny to you but to me people who work in chelsea are my special one , I do not give a damn to other clubs.
after all , who was mourinho ?
by the way , do not write for me about that anymore .it is not worth wasting my valuable time on some people whom I have no idea about them.
maysam – you’re drunk again? i agree he played very well but gullit scored all of 4 goals (that is FOUR goals) for Chelsea and you’re comparing him with Drogba?
look at this! avram grant confesses @ 81! lol lol lol
@What a Jock
My knowledge of AG and RA friendship is based on what i read, not on my presence or witness of their conversation, after all I do not speak Russian or Hebrew, but before I answer your blog, read this or go there and read it.
If I am correct and heard AG well after the spurs match , he said that chelsea no longer plays the long ball, I researched under the title, below, and to my surprise he is considered one of the “notable” long ball managers. Go there read it, it may help your knowledge about football, and the sly, sneak guy that this AV is. If this doesnt smell of hipocrisy, i dont know what to say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_ball
Notable Long Ball Managers
Sam Allardyce
John Beck
Jackie Charlton
Terry Dolan
Jimmy Hill
Avram Grant
Terry Butcher
Egil Olsen
Tony Pulis
An israel player about AG, after all he should know more about AG than me or you, read it
‘Berkovic: Grant won Chelsea job in disgusting, disrespectful way.’
He told The Sun:
‘I think the way Chelsea gave the job to Grant was disgusting and disrespectful. Mostly it is a story with a known end from the very beginning.’
‘ Avram have undermined the greatest manager of all time at Chelsea FC – the one all Chelsea fans admired with craziness and probably the most charismatic man in the football world today.’
‘We are all familiar and know who Mr Grant is. Sometimes you need to act selfishly in a way.’
Is Burkovic in his words implying that AG is a sly, vile character?
‘Way to go, Grant. You made it. There is no need to be a great manager in order to become successful with a team like Chelsea’.
No need to be a great manager with a team…. he has fantastic players, he even risks to be champion with those players.
‘You have got money, good players and everything you want. All you have to be is a very good psychologist and you’re very good at it.
and pots and pots of luck what is his hallmark he only rides on luck not skill’
Berkovic, 35, added: ‘I have a feeling Grant will be successful but there is one problem. He will always be remembered as the man who pushed away Jose Mourinho.
who is going to trust this man (AG)? even players will watch their back.
You see there is a problem, is this problem that the true blues can not forget and forgive.
“It doesn’t matter how many hours he spent on the phone talking to Roman Abramovich and the closest people to the boss”.
(better still was person to person so you can study the body language of the person you want to impress)
‘As for Chelsea players, I can understand their feelings and thoughts right now. After all I was a player myself.’
‘It doesn’t feel normal suddenly to have a new coach you knew as Abramovich’s friend replacing one of the best managers in the world.
even Berkovic recognizes
‘This is far from being a professional act and it’s really hard to understand.’
‘I guess Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba and John Terry ask themselves ‘Who is Avram?’
‘But hey, Mr Grant, you made it big time. Good for you.’
The bottom line
When Avram Grant was manager of Israel and leading them towards the 2006 World Cup finals, fans put the team’s impressive results down to ‘Hatachat shel Avram’. This means ‘Avram’s arse’, a reference to the huge amount of luck he enjoyed during the campaign, though it turned against them when they missed out on a play-off place to Switzerland on goal difference.
Again luck, luck ,luck
‘Grant is a shrewd man who knows which side of the bread the butter is on, and through charm, fascination, manipulation and exquisite verbal ability and manouevring, befriends the right people at the right time – be they journalists, clerks, bosses or tycoons. In this way, he paves his way to the top despite being a mediocre professional at best.
But he prefers tycoons lol
Did you read the words: manipulation, verbal ability and manouevring?
and despite being a MEDIOCRE professional AT BEST.
Now if these articles are written by israel journalist and players, people that know him personally and have worked with him, I must be able to read between the lines.
Another characterist of a “successful” football manager, (who cares about achievements)
Making a good impression on powerful men has become his hallmark. He met billionaire Roman Abramovich after currying favour with Uzbekistan tycoon Lev Leviev, who was to buy a Chelsea feeder club in Israel. Grant then used his connection with the billionare Alexandre Gaydamak to get the job at Portsmouth last year. Abramovich says he wants Chelsea to win with panache, but critics have derided Grant’s tactics as ‘too negative’. Didn’t they say that about Mourinho?
Always climbing the ladder with football success, have you noticed, always using people and trying to climb the ladder by manipulation, introduction, not by winning or achievement.
Thats why I reckon he convinced and manipulated RA mind to get rid of JM and give him the job, after all you do not have to stupid to fall for that, RA is not stupid, but he is human after all, and there is always one moment that if you strike it right you get what you want.
Hence the reason I think that AG stab JM in the back, and because RA must have been tired of JM, AG grasped the chance to undermine JM and to convince that he is much better than JM.
Read this too, and read:
TO DUMP TITLE-WINNING MANAGER.
‘In 1996 he persuaded Loni Herzikowitz, owner of Maccabi Tel Aviv, to dump title-winning manager Dror Kashtan and give him the job and married to Israeli TV presenter Tzo? t Grant who once drank her own urine live on television as part of a health feature’
well better drink the urine that the shit AG is trying to give us.
There is more:
What they say about him
‘He is an illusionist, incapable of using a proper game plan and relying on luck rather than skill’- former Israel coach Shlomo Scharf
Shlomo Scharf is probably the only Israel manager with qualifications to manage in europe.
‘Grant becoming Chelsea coach is the same as Neil Armstrong’s landing on the moon’ – Ran Ben-Shimon, Hapoel Kiryat Shmona coach
well i must say Neil Amstrong landed in the moon lol
Another comment from a football man.
The reason RA threw JM away (using your words) is that JM is his own man, not a yes man, does and achieves things HIS OWN WAY, so quite right, after all he RA is the owner, so he replaces JM with a yes man, just like AG.
RA may be seeing the same as we all see, that the change of play has not changed, but at least now RA can dictate the players he wants , and TELL AG what to do, and AG just follows like lil dog.
I never claimed my judgement were based on “facts” only assumptions and reading through the lines from people’s comments, people that know AG for many a year, ans I am going to tell you another thing, and this is a fact, by meeting some chelsea players in a particular disco they go to.
yes i have a talent, like most blue fans, that nothing has really changed,and that AG stabbed JM in the back, he was only waiting for the opportunity. I am pretty sure so does RA, but at least now RA can interfere widely without upsetting or falling apart with the manager, not like before that JM would not tolerate, so RA invented that chelsea was boring, and was not playing attacking football etc etc, all excuses to replace him with his clown.
regarding your theory, quite right is your own theory, like mine is mine.
But my theory is not too far from the truth, my opinion.
Now reagrding Anelka V Drogba.
Yes anelka maybe more skilful and a goal scorer as well, but Drogba is a more complete player and a better goal scorer, you just have to read what Anelka said about him.
in my team i rather have a drogba than a anelka, but since drogba will be leaving in the summer it is a good move to buy anelka, i dont know how mature he is now, but if he sits in bench because the preference goes to Drogba, then lets see how mature anelka is.
But yes Drogba is a mor complete player.
That’s all
Wow! use2gonwatchcfc! That was a super comment!!!
FOLKS WE JUST GOT IVANOVIC!! Looking Goog Folks. Go Chels
i just hope this guy lives up to expectation . i sincerely hope he isn’t another boularhouz. welcome to the blues bro!
@ USE2GONWATCHCFC
Thank you once again for your sincerity.
I guess you will keep on digging to find justification to your story.
It took me some time ,but I have done some homework only to find once again how single minded you are-that is , you chose what suits you ,ignoring what doesn’t.
“Grant has built warmer relationships with many of his players. He transformed Yossi Benayoun, now of Liverpool, from a brilliant but confused young footballer with his career at the crossroads into a key contributor at Maccabi Haifa and then with the national side.
“Benayoun is generous in his praise of his mentor. “I don’t think that he can do well at Chelsea, I am sure of it,” he says. “He’s got what it takes and he has proved himself in the Israeli league and with the national team. Yes, this is a big step forward and he has huge boots to fill, but he can do the job because he is a top manager.”
“Berkovic, whose international career was ended by Grant when he was Israel manager, pulled no punches in a personal tirade.”
Berkovits ,whom you qoute is a bitter rival of AG. This guy has a nick name in his country- “The Big Mouth”. He couldn’t accept the fact that AG ended his International career and he joined forces with another of AG “enemy” Mr. Sharaff, who was the national coach before AG and claims to be the best manager ever….
Did you aske yourself a simple question : how this Berkovits knows all the in and out of how
AG got this job? Is Berkovits is another friend of RA?
Is it possible that this is his own scenario ,based on his experience with AG?
Read this story about AG here.
http://www.sportingo.com/football/why_avraham_grant_is_right/1001,4985
“Grant is known in Israel for giving a chance to young players in almost every club he coached, such as Alon Hazan and goalkeeper Raffi Cohen in Petah Tikva, Avi Nimni and Itzik Zohar in Maccabi Tel Aviv, Gal Alberman in the Israeli team, and many more. Grant famously did not included Israeli star Eyal Berkovic in the national squad during 2005, saying he wanted to create “a younger team”"
So who do you want to believe – Mr. Berkovitz who was shown the door by AG or Benayoun
who became a national star under AG ?
use2gonwatchcfc
When you copy paste from wikipedia it will be only fair if you dont pick only what sute you nice
or dont edit wikipedia and then copy it here
i’m reading comment @92 – benayoun said grant “I don’t think that he can do well at Chelsea, I am sure of it’ and you call it generous praise? lol
oh! you just stopped at the wrong place. yes grant wanted to create a young team and that’s the reason he gave to drop Berkovic but retained 34-year old Nimni in his ‘young’ squad! hypocrite is the word.
It is so bad that in wikipedia, under ‘management style’ they talk about avram’s luck. of course luck is part of his management style. now we know!
what a jock – just retire from this blog right away. i’m sure no one reads your comments except me. BC – please do a poll on how many take ‘what a jock’ seriously
israeli – you just hang around here becuase avram is managing chelsea. if he goes to pompey again, you must be wandering in the pompey blogs just to let them know how superior your TLO (thanks joseholiday!) is.
I read What a Jock’s comments, you know why? It’s good to see some SENSE in a comment every now and again! Not just downright idiotic abuse towards AG by people who claim that wikipedia is the all-knowing website where everything is the truth! Anybody can edit the pages, and it would be a safe bet that commenters on this site have more than once edited information about Avram Grant to include their beliefs on all this “luck” and “long ball” stupidities.
Mate, how about we do a poll on who takes you seriously? Or wouldn’t you like that?
Enjoy this one guys ::))
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/article684592.ece
only the israelian people in this blog likes avram, that shows how good avram really is :P