Debates, Season Review - Written by BlueChampion on Tuesday, September 4, 2007 0:37 | 3,689 Views | 184 Comments | Add Comment
Did We Just Lose The Title Or Something . . .
First Chelsea defeat in the fifth match of a long season. I was disappointed that we didn’t get three points, yes three points, and for clarity I’m not talking about a draw here. But I was not disappointed with the way we played. We played some different kind of stuff, which for any other top 4 team is called as ‘beautiful football’. When we get the results, we are blasted for the way we play. When we play well, what’s being looked at is points lost and goals conceded. Now some of you would be asking, why don’t we play high tempo, one-touch and at the same time get three points and a clean sheet?
First two seasons under Mourinho, we played superb football, in my opinion, and there was widespread propaganda that we were boring and all that stuff. Third season we played intelligent and efficient football and very nearly made it. Being one of the earlier clubs in England to get a billionaire owner, anything attached to Chelsea was to be either bad or simply evil - the owner’s source of income, the manager’s arrogance, the way the team played their football, the football pitch of home ground, the fans, the transfers, the tackles, the free kicks - every freaking thing was seen with tinted glasses.
Arsenal’s possible new chairman is a criminal of murder, rape and every crime you’re heard of. Thaksin keeps getting arrest warrant after arrest warrant. Man Utd got Tevez in one of the most ugliest, shadiest deals in football history. Arsene Wenger nearly hit Alan Pardew (he too went off-target) and we’ve forgotten that. Liverpool played horribly boring all last season but it gets no mention. Time and again, there have been hooliganism, violence and bloodshed among football fans and all these involve Man Utd and Liverpool, but our fans are the most ridiculed ones for our money. What I mean to say is that everything Chelsea is accused of, other clubs have found it in themselves. So funny that Roman was called the Russian mafia by the Arsenal blogs during the Cole-Gallas swap and see what they’ve got - a complete real Russian mafia guy in charge of them - true in every sense of the word. AC Milan and Juventus were involved in the most ugly match-fixing affair of the football history. Guess what would have happened if Chelsea was involved. This is the double standards I really hate. The double standards are adopted not only by the Chelsea-haters and neutrals but also by the so-called Chelsea fans, just to make it more painful.
Just to re-focus on what I intend to talk about, we lost to Aston Villa at Villa park. How much of a disaster is this? Look at Man Utd, they dropped points early on and they are back. We started fine enough and we lost a match, so what? A regular Jose Mourinho team would have hardly let a goal by now. We have conceded 6 goals so far in 5 matches. Why is the defence leaking these goals? It’s because, we are changing the way we play. It’s a transformation and such things won’t happen overnight. It’s very obvious that Chelsea’s way of attacking has changed and as a result the movement of players and the space created are undergoing a change. We get a new back four every match and it’s not too easy. Were we completely outplayed and we lost 2-0? No freaking no. We were all over them. We were easily the most dominant team that afternoon. Another day, the same performances would have seen us win 2-0.
If you want to make a constructive criticism instead of the mindless “sack/hang/shoot Jose”, you should see that we were poor in set pieces - attacking/defending, we were a little too lethargic sometimes in the midfield, our decision making in the attack was not proper - it showed at least one or two players were not playing to the plan, and in defence we had four players from three leagues and there were some inconsistent way of defending. The fact is, you can see these points existing even in a match that we win 2-0 but the thing is we used to get the three points, no matter how we play. Jose is a master at this and this feature of the Chelsea’s game is everyone’s envy and that’s what made Chelsea a very tough opponent and rival. Now, it is clear that Jose is trying to change the philosophy and it is happening gradually and we are now in a period of transition. Jose, used to be happier with 1-0 than a 2-1 or 3-2, as it gives three points and a clean sheet (if anyone childish points out that Real won 5-0, damn I’m not wasting my time on them). Now the way we play we should score goals and should complain too much if we concede. But until we get to the right level of balance and understanding in the new system, these things will happen.
If there is one thing you can really bet your life on, it is how Jose would give a kick in the back side to the players. Some of them did not show the real passion or determination. Some did not really chase the ball as they should have, some did not follow the plan and did things on their own and some forgot the basics at crunch times. But I’m sure that the team alongwith the coach will sit together and analyse what went wrong and how to improve from here on.
I don’t intend to publish a post for every such defeat as my estimate for this season is 5 defeats, 7 draws and 26 wins (how did I arrive at this: I just made it up!) and we should win the league with 85 points as it is a close fight this season and you can expect very good battles with the mid table teams too. It’s not going to be easy for the champion, whoever it is. Season has just started and so many things can happen - players going out with injuries, teams suddenly going out of form, derbies getting hotter and hotter with the underdogs showing more courage and determination than before, the results of the matches involving the big four is anyone’s guess and possibly more upsets for the big four.
It’s getting a little sick to see in the comments section that Jose Mourinho is the sole problem of our ‘poor’ situation now. I don’t say all of you feel so. That opinion poll I published still showed that more than 80% of you think he is a legend. For the ones looking for his head, get over it. Until he is sacked or until he resigns, he is our coach. As the Chelsea coach he deserves a lot of respect and support. Look at this defeat and try to provide some constructive criticism, for a change.
Update: Kenn Emetulu at Chelseablog says something in the same lines
[tags]Chelsea, Jose Mourinho, Roman Abramovich, Aston Villa, Premier League, Manchester United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Alisher Usmanov[/tags]
184 Comments
1. bigbadblue
2. TrueBlueInd
Good post man..Just about sums up the situation well
I support Jose’s effort to play more expansive stuff n all, but I want him to restore our solid defensive set up.Because that was our strength.Anything new should be developed only over that foundation.Play beautiful n remain solid.Dont compromise on our defence.
I feel Chelsea should aim for 90 points..85 might be enough..but 90 should just about seal it
3. lampsgirl
Great, man! You’re absolutly right! And you wrote it in a really nice way :p
4. cancorus
I absolutely agree with what u just said, i mean we were really good especially in the first half but we were probaly unlucky, on a better day we would have been leading by halftime. I also agree with the adjustment we need to make as matches progress, soon we will be really good. Finally i just want to praise swp and mikel and essien their combinations at times were really good, probably when we gell more we’ll see more of that with lamps attacking the spaces the create. Up chelsea!!!!!!!!!!!!
5. Maysam
that’ts right .
nothing happened we still have chance however, we had a coech he always said , it is impossible to win all games, but champions always make impossible possible.
6. foreverblue
BC that was an awesome article spot on i totally agree with you esp about the double standards most newspaper articles reviews on websites etc are written by non chelsea fans so i think thats the reason for the hypocrisy cause every action every word evrything is under surveillance and then blown out of propotion!!! i wanna end this on good note by saying keep up the good work BC!! this is the best sports blog!!
7. Michael M
Blue Champion I hope you read this!
PLEASE RESPOND
You are a very GOOD ANALYST and none of us would have been here if your analysis of events was crap.
I can speak for the majority that we think your blog comments are much better than those “so-called professionals” given to us by BBC or Sky Sports.
If I insulted you man by “ameteur stuff” I didn’t mean to offend you.
The only ameteur stuff is coming from some people like Midfield_Decider and Joeblue and footballguy etc..
If I insulted you by the “ameteur stuff” I didn’t mean to offend you.
Sorry
xxx
8. Jerry
I completely agree with your statement.it was mourinho who brought the title back after 50 long years.He is the Best manager for this Job.Instead of critzicing him we should give our moral support to him,to lift the spirit.
9. Maysam
Ballack will come back in two months.
10. Michael M
Does anyone know any good football jokes?
11. Michael M
Does anyone have any football jokes or stories?
Ok. I’ve got a story.
I was watching Chelsea tv a couple of weeks ago and we interviewed the head of the family.
Jose Mouriniho
Mouriniho was going on about the gesture he made, the gesture to Chelsea supporters to hold their chins up, when we drew to Arsenal.
This happened near the end of the season.
So Mouriniho goes on, come the FA Cup Final against Man Utd.
Mouriniho goes on to say that as he entered the stadium and while the match took place, he could see Man Utd fans gesturing to the Chelsea supporters to hold their chins up high.
I don’t know what happened after that because the wife needed me, but I only imagine what he said to those Man Utd fans after winning the FA Cup.
Can anyone finish/better this story?
12. Mikey
Great analysis BC, I’m really loving it!
This was a good post to just calm everyone down a little bit.
Also I expect the defense to get much better. We’ve been playing with 2-3 new signings in the back four every game. They will take a while to settle and play together as a unit. Also, once Carvalho is back, look for them to be back on top of their game. The clean sheets will start rolling in.
13. footballguy
Bue champion
u said last seasons, performance by chelski, was “efficient” is tht a euphemisms for boring.
secondly
u said the tevez deal was one of the “shadiest deals in football history”. is tht y the FA ratified it? is it not the same deal as maschinaro?, its nt shady, if it was man utd wouldnt hav gt involved with it, the reason we didnt take tevez whn we wer offerd him at da strt of last season.
and u tlk about matchfixing etc, and double standards, tht if it wer chelski, the reprecussions would be unimagiable.
COMMMON, hav u 4gotten chelski tappin up a.cole, and ONLY gettin fined 100k, or u tappin up MIKEL, frm united, or the two leeds youngsters, or the liverpool youngster. wht happend thn.
stop dis nonsense bout double standards.
14. footballguy
MICHAEL M (comment 7)
dnt appreciate bien calld an ametaeur in my football analytical skills. i have given my opinion, and backd it up, and share the same views of neutrals and some of ur fans. so dnt u dare level such a comment at me.
if ne thing (altough a manutd fan) i know more bout chelski thn most of the people of this site. who’ve only ben”supporting” them for 2-3 yrs, look at dis 4 example
TRUBLUEND said
“I was an Arsenal fan till 2003..Then with Roman taking over chelsea there was a lot of hype n i just fell in love with the blues..I’ve been a chelsea supporter for the last 4 years.”
how is tht possible, 2 support 2 sworm enemies. if tht isnt glory hunting i dont no wht is?
if u want 2 tlk bout bien ameture, pls discuss BLU 07 said
joe cole COULD BE AS GOOD AS RONALDINHO, if he practised, and is mourinho let him do hes skills.
COMMON are u kidding me? how ridiculous is tht of a statement. 2 mention dinhio in da same breath a j.cole shw an inept understanding of football.
wht a joke. if ne thing comment lyk tht (with “fans” who r blinded by “club loyalty”) are wht shld be called amateur.
dare ne 1 2 prove me wrng on dis point
15. Blue Champion
Football Guy @ 13
efficient football: I’ve made it clear more than once that I like football in its complete sense. It’s not just the goals and attacking moves that satisfy me. It’s also the tight defence and crunching defensive midfield tackles and the ball winning that satisfies me. Holding on to the lead and playing so cool is what i like. Playing the best possible football not to get the maximum but just what’s sufficient to get 3 points is efficient football and I love it. So it’s not an euphemism but just an expression for a different way of playing football which not appreciated by many.
Tevez deal: FA ratified it but until the day before it was cleared, Man Utd were not sure whom to pay the money and whether it was a purchase or only a loan deal etc. Not a real mark of a very clean deal. But the point here is that if the team here involved was Chelsea, then we’d have had it. That’s what I want to say.
Tapping: If you already didn’t know, player-tapping happens like it’s legal. It’s happening everywhere. Henry and Fabregas were contacted with no permission from Arsenal and there are so many other instances. In fact, Fabregas even went public saying that Barca contacted him. You think Gallas was not tapped? Do you think Real Madrid never taps players? Certainly yes. But I’m not saying it’s right. See what happened for the Ashley Cole story and the rest. Always, we get the headlines, mostly for wrong reasons. And for Mikel, we paid 12m to Man Utd and that’s what financed them the Carrick deal. It was a settlement. As regards the youngsters, again, it so common but it may not be right, but so damn common that every single club does that and only Chelsea got into the papers even for those stories.
I was just hoping that more clubs be bought by businessmen and billionaires so that the anti-Chelsea bias goes off. Premier league is going to be a lot different next season wrto the club ownerships.
16. chelsea_girl
I agree with you, BC. Let us not forget that Chelsea is a team in evolution at this time. The team that we have now is not the same one that won back-to-back trophies — certainly Mourinho is aware that one has to change in order to move forward (and win more trophies).
And anyway, that’s the way it is: sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. Let’s cheer them on and hope that Mourinho and the boys learn something valuable from this loss.
Cheers to everyone!
17. Red Ranter
Please, Blue Champion. Building up passion in a fan blog is one thing. Using it to propagate one argument by eschewing another is completely unacceptable. I don’t want to wind you up or anything, but saying Tevez’s deal was the shadiest ever is unfair.
From the first day Man Utd’s lawyer had sorted out the paper work and it was left to the FA, WHU and Kia (his owner) to sort out their differences. United were just waiting to pay the cash to the person the FA deemed right to be paid.
About Chelsea getting stick for some of the things you’ve mentioned, yes, you are right on some counts. They do play an efficient brand of football, that to many, is not easy on the eye. Roman might concur, I guess.
About the Russian mafia and takeovers, most of the Arsenal fans are pretty much against the takeover. The same could be said of the Glazers and Man Utd. To this day, ‘Fuck Glazer’ resounds throughout the club. Give me a PLC over a Glazer owned United, I will take it anyday. (And Glazer is not even a mafia gang member) I am sure a lot of the Arsenal fans would not be able to reconcile with their new Russian owner.
Honestly, there is only one reason why Abramovich, or Randy Lerner, or Thaksin were invited with open arms. These owners bring in much needed cash into the club which were unheard of in the past. Roman’s arrival wiped out debts in one fell swoop.
For what it’s worth, Roman loves football and does the Chelsea thing with passion for the game than for business purposes as such. (It’s probably the reason why Mourinho’s brand of football worries him) However his murky past would stick with him thanks to rival fans.
Anyway, getting back to my point. Jose Mourinho is and has done a good job at Chelsea. The problem with him has been him shooting his gob about being the special one. While he did prove it, it sets standards ridiculously high for a person of his level and ego. So everyone wants him to take the fall. Simple human nature.
I have tried to be as unbiased as I could (considering I am a United fan) and I hope I get a cultured response. Not some nut job trying to tell me off. I’ve been through that before, and it’s not going to affect me one bit.
18. Blue Champion
Michael M @ 7
No problemo! No offence taken as I don’t think I was your target ;-)
19. footballguy
blue champion
i see wht ur sayin, but i really think u guys at chelski ned 2 get it outta ur head there isnt an anti chelski, felling amongst football fans.
the reasons chelski dnt win many fans, is nt just the type of football thy play, but alo the attitude of the club.
1.jose mourinhio, (as much i i love some of the comments he makes), hes arrogance knws no boundries, and he has crossed the line 1 2 many tyms. remeber whn he made it personal with ronaldo, and how he was brought up.
-aalso hes inablity 2 accept defeat, ie the villa match (2 shots on traget, 4 me suggest u deserved 2 get beat, but NOT 2 jose). also he says barca cnat beat us with 11 v11 palyers. wht nonsense thy beat u accept it.
2. the mumouring of the players, manager, and club alike, suggestin thyr goin 2 win the title by bien unbeate. tht sort of arrogance does not win u ne fans, especially wit da type of football u play. arsenal won fans nt only by their acheievment bt the football thy play.
3. the most annying, is the team, manager and FANS alike. comments such as the priemiership is “our trophy”, 2 titles in 50 yrs suggest nt. 2 in 15 of the priemiership supports this. man utd 9 in 15, and current holders suggets it is our tophy.
also fans try 2 walk b4 thy cn run, suggeting chelski is a GREAT club. great team yes, great club NOOO
the most annoyin is epitomised by statements lyk the 1 blue 07 made.
j.cole could b as good a ronaldinho, or comments such as ur tht chelski hav bette wingers, and comments lyk mikel, had a geat seaon last seaon (whn it ws averager).
these things make chelski disliked.
feel free 2 prove me wrng
20. Blue Champion
Football Guy
The way Jose Mourinho expresses his arrogance and rudeness is all part of a big scheme. That’s a very important contribution he has made to the team. Even now, when Arsenal plays, you can see how Gallas stands out from the rest with his grit, determination and never-say-die attitude. Like I said it’s all part of a big scheme. Managers are no longer soft and diplomatic as they used to be. Fergie and Arsene have done their bit of service already too - that ‘wife’ comment, hairdryer treatment etc.
You become what YOU believe in. That’s the psychological message. If you think it’s your trophy, you’d do anything to win it back. That’s the bottomline. Why do you bother when you already know that Chelsea has won just thrice while you guys have won it umpteen times?
21. RomanHoliday
This is the best stuff I’ve read in a while along with some of the comments in the last post.
I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN CHELSEAis a theme that needs to be touched on once ina a while cos if we win 4-0 in the next match lots of the negative stuff get washed away but some fundamental challenges will always be there.
No team or anyone is ever perfect and like I like earlier better to stumble a bit now than later in the season when we’re neck to neck with someone in the final dash for the trophy.
The team needs to GEL and that is a fact and we’re gonna get there !
22. Blue Champion
Red Ranter
Tevez deal: You got me wrong here. I was just mentioning that if the team involved was Chelsea instead of Man Utd, it would have got a different kind of publicity - something like a Roman conspiracy or Kenyon bribing the FA or whatever stupid stuff.
I pretty well know that the fans are not too happy about the billionaire owners (may be, Roman excepted) but I’d wait to see what kind of bad publicity people like Thaksin get. Believe me, I had even contributed a few pounds to Shareholders United to keep Man Utd away from Glazer, just purely as a football fan.
I agree with you that Jose has set himself and for us, vey high standards and he has the tougher job of meeting or bettering them and we have the easier job of criticising him.
Finally, you’re most welcome here, with your points of view. Anything from anyone is fine, as long as they are not stupidly abusive ;-)
23. Blue Champion
Guys! Red Ranter runs this Manchester United blog - http://www.redrants.com - one of the very few Man Utd blogs I like.
24. Blue Champion
My dear TrueBlueInd
Just in case you had missed this.
25. SoCalBlue
When we win, Mourinho refers everithing is due his brilliant and dareful decisions, but when we play not as a team , but a collection of unconected stars, he expect from us not to think it’s his foult.
I think he must start to work better in make those unconnected players to work as a team not in a selfish way, and avoid talking in the public telling us how good he is anytime we win.
For sure we recognize how good he is and his good things , but we want him to be better.
26. andrew,usa
ballack get well soon
27. shishir
you hit the nail right on the head. the frustration of being singled out every single time is something. and bout the match, no qualms of losin cause u could see the effort of the players.
and come no matter what, jose is and will be the best man for chelsea. his true worth will be realized when is out of chelsea( which i hope wont happen, ever)
28. avijerseyno9
Nice article BC. Jose is what he he is coz he plays to win and with him a loss never becomes a trend.
I completely agree with you when you say there is a lot more to Jose’s Chelsea than just goals. He completely outfoxed Martin O’ Niell.
Jose played Mikel and Makalele together though they play the same role it was a masterstroke. It completely countered the threat of Ashley Young’s and Agbonlahor’s pace. It gave no room to Gareth Barry and Reo Coker to operate. The only way Villa could have scored was through a set piece which to our misfortune they did. That they scored a second goal is of no consequence as we were totally devoted to attck at that time and had to run such risks of counterattack. I did’nt see Villa play at all the entire evening!!!
I have only one suggestion we should rotate SWP, Malouda and Joe Cole and not make any of them a permanent bench fixture.
When SWP plays he should also concentrate a bit more on defense. He has pace and it comes in handy to stem the flow of oppenent’s counterattcks.
At the end i am disappointed at not winning but i am very content with our game.
29. avijerseyno9
To add to the earlier comment Aston Villa hosted Liverpool in the first game in the season and it was not an easy outing for Liverpool either. They won thanks to an unjustified free kick that Steven Gerard dubiously won and brilliantly took. Now when we see Liverpool are winning 6-0 and we are loosing, i am not fazed and still think we handled them better than Liverpool did. John Carew in their match against Liverpool had all the time to claim long balls. Gareth Barry and Reo Coker ran the length of the other pitch at will and Young and Agbonlahor were the only guys who could be marginally restricted in that game by Benitez. Jose caged Aston Villa.
With a little more discipline and selflessness we could have won against Villa. But i am sure this is a rare phenomenon like a solar eclipse where the tiny moon can block the mighty sun but only for some time.
For me apart from the regular performers, Alex really had a good game baring few mistakes. The good thing about him he seems to have all the time to go into a tackle that seem last gasp to us.
Juliano Belliti was good with crosses but SWP was running that flank so this game was not the right one to watch his capability.
30. Maysam
I think you guys are making distaster from a simple lose.
31. Spanish Fry
“So funny that Roman was called the Russian mafia by the Arsenal blogs during the Cole-Gallas swap and see what they’ve got - a complete real Russian mafia guy in charge of them - true in every sense of the word.”
Nice read, again, but I don’t agree with this. The new shareholder is simply that, a shareholder, and is not in charge of the club. Although I am disappointed, as an Arsenal fan, that he has come to the club and that David Dein has let him in, he is by no means in charge. That would be Peter Hill-Wood, the chairman.
Keep up the good work though, I still see Chelsea as Arsenal’s major title rivals.
32. joeblue
U hav proved again BC how naiive and ill informed u r , remember last season wen u put up silly posts like……CRISIS WAT CRISIS , and SURELY SOME CRISIS after we drew 3 matches in sucession had lost 6 points , and at the end of the season who was the clown???? U!!!!
We lost the title by 6 points!!!!
U really need to brush urself up , every point lost is a point gained for the others , this time its not only Manure but the Gooners and scousers r going for the title as well , and r already ahead of us , i m not sayin that they wil not loose points , but as i always say we shld hav our fate in our hands and not like last season sit on our asses and hope somebody beats United!!!!
So instead of being so uterly bull headed see some sense and see the real faults in the team , dont like always sweep them under the carpet , we r Chelsea fans but that does not mean we wil hide our mistakes , wat was wrong was wrong!!!!
33. foreverblue
@footballguy u think ferguson is all clean if you have been supporting manutd for a long time which i suppose you are, you would know he wanted to get robben that is why robben was seen at OT without psv’s permission and then psv was about to issue a legal notice against manutd but they didnt, secondly its about last year only that he was abusing some skysports reporter and you know this was not the first time, thirdly every player that leaves OT has never left on a good note be it beckham(shoe smashing), keane. heinze, RVN, veron etc etc and i dont wanna start this but you come here and start abusing my fellow chelsea supporters but if you wanna talk about glory hunting that term is synomyms to manutd most of the people are suppoting manutd after 1999(treble) they dont know anything beyond that and ofcourse because of worldwide popularity of beckham at that point of time i bet people dont even the 1st 11 team players and they say that they support manutd and all they talk about is glory(glory glory manutd) which i can see in your tone when you say that we have won 9 out 15 tiltles wat happened before that mate you won your first title after 36 years in 1991 and you talk about chelsea winning title after 50 years i dont care when people start supporting chelsea as long as they are supporting CHELSEA!!!
34. joeblue
To the guy qusetioning Sneijder’s place in the team……….
R u kidding , except for Lamps and Essien no player till now has shown the performance or the consistency to be a regular in the midfield , Makelele is so old and plays so less that ppl r startin to forget him he cannot even run now ,Ballack wil miss most of the season , Mikel has been the most rubbish player in Chelsea this season , he neither attacks nor defends well , he cant score goals and cant even use his physiqe in set-pieces…………..so who is left????
the ever wasting not good enough SWP , the talented and my fav Joey Cole and the inconsistent settling Malouda ,
personally my midfield wld be this………………
J.Cole–Essien–Sneijder
——-Lamps————-
But dreams wil remain dreams , we r more likely to sign a talented young creative goal scoring mid fielder than we r of playig beautiful football!!!
35. foreverblue
ok what after ballack returns you would want him to warm the bench and according to your formation you would play lampard as a holding midfileder and just one wing player that is joe cole cause mate sneijder is a midfileder he is not a wing player you think you can play attractive football with just one wing player….lol dude you are funny you contardict yourself lol!!!
36. joeblue
wat a joker this guy foreverblue is………..
1.even if Ballack returns he has not done anything to warrant a place in the starting 11 , and he dosent return til the end of Oct that too is not certain , so u keep waiting til then and hoping he wld cm back and start slamming goals and creating stuff , which he hasant done til now and nothing shows that he can!!!! For me reputations r not imp , only performances r!!!And Balack has not shown any performance worthy of notice yet!!!!
2.Lampard is not playing defensive midfielder dude , he is the tip of the attack this is an illustrtaion for children like u who can even think of such crap , u make me laugh , u surely must be a clown……………..
——————-cech—————-
Beletti———Terry——Carvy——-Cole
——–j.Cole—-Essien——–Sneijder
—————-Lampard——————
————Drogba———sheva/Pizarro
Maybe now u can understand the formation if stil not please do go and learn footie first and stop posting infant stuff!!!!!
3.J.cole can also play in the wings , but he is a utility man , who likes to play either as a creative head or just on the side of the midfield , if u wld hav seen him play for England , he plays at Left midfield not left wing , and he plays extremly well but all this stuff is out of ur understanding!!!!
4.i want us to play creative football but i kno Jose wil never do it , thats why i want his head , he can sign any talented player but he wil make that player play his defensive mindless football , the crux of my argument is to get Jose kicked , only then under another coach can we hope to play any sort of creative beautiful football!!!
Enugh education ,u post childish comments , please leave me alone , i dont hav a teaching football job on this blog!!!!
37. bigbadblue
Michael M,
just to finish your story, at the end of the match, the entire Chelsea Team was doing the “Chins up” action back at the Fans.
A. Cole, Robben, Maka, Drogs the whole lot really… The Manure fans must have felt Fecked over. LOL…was a funny sight to behold.
38. bluegal
Joeblue, maybe RA should sack Jose and hire you.
39. foreverblue
@joeblue childish comments!! just get your facts right we were talking about sneijder and you think chelsea should splash money and buy a player for 20mil just because ballack is out for 2 months you make me laugh mate i dont wanaa start this whole thing that i know more about football than you do variety! and one thing i wanna tell you mate that class will always be there you cannnot write off players like ballack you havent seen the best of him!
40. joeblue
i dont pretend to be a manager or a Ferguson , i just give my views but this sarcastic crap is intolerable , we r the fans , we r educated and inteligent enugh to rate or review any team(maybe some r not) , we can question and doubt , most of us hav our own opinions(with Jose or agnst Jose) , we hav not only the right but the duty to criticaly analyse our team!!!!
If somebody wants to counter my views i m completely ready to face this challenge but wen uneducated and low minded ppl cm and post stuff like ‘u shld get out’ , ‘Jose knos more than u’ and such stuff , i can pity u ppl , lambs being herded around , if u hav not got anything related to football or any counter-arguments its better to just shut up and follow the Jose herd!!!!
Thats more respectable than advertising wat an incompetent , uneducated follower u r!!!!
41. foreverblue
the reason we played so well in 2004-05 was because we were using the wings and you cant compare england team with chelsea. joe cole is an awesome player i know he can play anywhere but for chelsea he plays right wing and please get it right wesley sneijder is a playmaker he plays in the same position as frankie lampard!! just get it right the next time!!! and ya about obi mikel well i think you might be sleeping in the latter half of last season he played so well just because he had couple of bad games this season you are going to write him off….. an advice to you joeblue never i mean never get into football management!!!
42. joeblue
hi clown!!!!
Lampard is a playmaker???? does he get creative balls in????
does he gets thru passes????do u even kno wat a playmaker is????
Ronnie , Deco , Riquelme , these r playmakers not players like Lampard ,
Obi Mikel had few good games last season so he has become some sort of a god , how very typical Jose lover attitude , couple of bad games???? whatever he has played this season has been crap , look at ppl like Fabregas they r also so young , does Obi even get to his shin pads????
NO , mybe Obi is 100 times better then even Fabregas for u ,right??? but then u kno nothin abt football!!!
let me give u some advise , please leave football!!!!
43. joeblue
oh and if we can splash 23 mn pounds on SWP and were going to splash abt 22 mn pounds for a RB , then 20 mn pounds for Sneijder is a bargain , anyways wen has Jose really cared abt the price tags???? why not sign somebody worthwhile for a change .. eh Jose?????
44. RomanEmpire
Gud post BC. But the thing which concerns me is the objective of Jose ‘n’ Roman. The fact we all know that Roman loves Samba brand football, but Jose doesn’t fancy those kinda football. For Jose the only thing is Winning, Winning ‘n’ Winning, doesnt matter how we won, but Roman wants something in Style. See BC, our Owner isn’t bankrupted Glazers, he can spend even billions if the team plays gud football and makes him happy. So I dun c anything wrong in Romans view, after all he paying 5m+ GBP/per for Jose (double da money of Arsene). Roman wants every football fan shall cheer about Chelsea the way it plays, but dats not happening… afterall he bought a football club not to earn bit money instead to create some revolution in Futball!
45. manuatic
yes! u,ve lost the title.u lost it even before the league started.your team is getting worse and worse by the day,conciding lots of goals and depending on fatlumps deflected shorts to go in.rem. comebacks don come all the time as u witnessed on sunday and more of those to come..lol!
46. RomanEmpire
@ joeblue, its our honour to respect other Chelsea mates views and their opinions, I really appreciate your comments, but are more welcome if its in diplomatic manner nonetheless i can understand your pain of Chelsea defeat and paly!
47. foreverblue
ha ha ha!! ur post make me laugh man…mate i dont wanna put you down i know my limits so call me wat ever you like but you know nothing you are tring to say that lampard is not a playmaker you should showed how naive you are do you know who had the highest number of assist last season for chelsea yes mate it was lampard so i dont wanna argue with a guy like you no point!!
48. joeblue
Roman , nice new name LOL!!!
Wassup mate , long time no see!!!
the points u bring up abt Abramovich and his want for more samba football , is something very new and which ppl generally ignore cuz they hav no respect for the MAIN man behind this Chelsea revolution , they just luv Jose!!!!
And i can be diplomatic with ppl who r more rational and open minded not ppl who hav only one side of the story hard up in their minds and just cant even look at the other view point , perhaps u r right its better to ignore such ppl!!!
49. joeblue
And another fact Lampard is NO playmaker , but why am i convincing u????
U kno nothing , answer me , wen does Lampard thru ball other players???
Wen does he run the play???? wen does he initiate sudden attacks out of nowhere???? the real playmakers r Ronnie , Deco , Fabregas , Riquelme etc and if u cant see the diff btw Lamps and them, then srry football really is not ur sport dude!!! See ya!!!!
50. RomanHoliday
When is the next game ?Can’t wait !
We should be either
(1) better at the fashion show football stuff and win by 3 goals
or
(2) Play pragmatic ,boring and win by one goal and get 3 points
or
(3) Play pretty and lose or draw
or
God forbid (4) play boring and lose or draw !
Whatcha think is gonna happen ?
51. RomanHoliday
I forward the notion that
(1) We get rid of the whole team at 5 million pounds each and buy 20 new guys at above 30million pounds each
(2) Get rid of JM and replace him with Erikson or even better me !
(3) Flay them ,slap them, stab them every time their form goes down or score less than 3 goals a half
Do I hear any Ayes ? Joe Blue ?
52. RomanEmpire
Yeah joeblue my name reflects am always behind our true footballing fan ‘n’ owner Roman! But unlike you, I am really a big fan of Jose as well, may be his Armony suits attracts me more
lol. See everyone can learn joeblue, and Jose is truly the Special one in a way he brings the kinda determination and giving motivation for our players, but if he bring the trophies with Style which is what Roman demands, Chelsea will conquer the world of football! But will Jose bring Samba football, thats da biggest question mark?
53. foreverblue
now get something straight…….playmaker is someone who usually runs the play…..who is the player responsible for spraying passes to SWP and malouda on the wings or to the strikers up front??maka passes the ball to lampard after he wins a tackle…why?? Nd u say he does not pick out thru balls to players?? do you watch chelsea matches?? u dont need do be a rocket scientist to figure that out…..fabregas does the same thing for arsenal and scholes for manutd….they both play with defensive mids behind them…gilberto and hargreaves resp. the same way lampard works with makaele to do the mopping up.
swp,joe cole,maloudA are wingers,kalou,pizzaro,drogba,sheva are strikers….makalele,essien and mikel are DM’s…lamps and ballack are playmakers. GOD i have to tell you the whole squad list now
and don’t argue for the sake of arguing…..
54. Nihongo Blue
When did we last scored of a freekick directly?? long time … i would love to see some goals of thunder freekicks..crafty freekicks… last game alex was trying for one power shot but i think there was no 10 yard rule that day
… may be we can use essien too for power kicks!! but bending dipping freekicks only lampard is capable that too not surely… i think we should put some consideration here too rather than just targeting JT and alex … may be a good surprise.
ronnie had a good one this weekend!!
cheers
55. CFC
some formations, pls do chop and change according to players on form,
4-3-3,
…..PC……
,,JB,,,RC….JT…AC,
,,,,,,,,,,ME,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,MB,,,,,,,,FL,,,,,,
,,SWP,,,,DD…..FM
4-4-2
,,,,,,,,,,,,PC,,,,,,,,,
,,JB,,,RC,,,,,JT,,,AC
,,SWP,,ME,,FL,,,JC
,,,,,,,DD,,,,AS,,,,,,
3-4-3
,,,,,,,,,,PC,,,,,,,,
,,,RC,,,JT…ALX,,,
……….ME…….
…SWP………FL….
…….. MB……….
…AS…DD…FM..
3-5-2
…………PC………
,,,RC…,,.JT……ALX,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,ME………
…….MB……FL….
SWP…………….JC..
,,,,,,,,DD…………
………….AS………
56. Blue Champion
@joeblue - like anyone, i dont like personal comments made against me. but i can not advise you as that has been your hallmark. if you’re saying that about lampard and through balls, that’s a signal that i need not respond to you.
57. joeblue
i hav not had any probs with u BC , but hav i been wrong in saying u cm up with silly , brush under the carpet excuses ,every single time????
tell me dont u remember wen u posted foolish articles CRISIS WAT CRISIS , and SURELY SOME CRISIS , where u tried ur level best to prove us Jose haters completely wrong???? that losing those six points wasant the end of the race as we were making it to be????
And wat happened in the end???? we lost the title by 6 points!!!!
So that proves how one sided ur opinion is and how wrong u almost always r , even now u say wats the problem , we lost only 1 game????
What if we end up losing the race by 3 points wat do u say then????
I kno , u wld hav forgoten like the rest of the Jose lovers and wld hav found some new excuses , i hav not taken any personal swipe at u , but correct me if i m wrong with the facts i hav given in any way????
And foreverblue , just cuz a player has got the responsability to pass around does not make him a playmaker , the playmaker is somebody who does it on his own accord , who dictates the play , who runs the midfield , Ballack and Lamps r 2 players who get forward and try to get goals on each opportunity , they dont sit and dictate play , they dont like making goals for other ppl , they like to get the goals themselves!!!! i dont think there is anything wrong in wanting to score , the problem is wen that becomes the prime want!!!
Even wen Lamps plays for England , no manager wants him and Stevie G to play togeather , unless its a 5 man midfield cuz he runs off to get his own goals , so does Gerrard to set others up and the defense is left in shambles , wat assist does Ballack make???? just stands around , shoots wen he gets the ball , and towers around in the set pieces!!!! no thru balls , no creativity , r u saying that the way Ronie and Deco etc make chances out of nothing Lamps does that???? hav u even ever seen him play????
Just cuz he is the only player to hav that role and gets the assists does not make him the playmaker , can he recreate Ronnie’s passes , or Deco’s thru balls , or Fabregas’s wonderful set ups????? no all he can do is rush to the box and slam the ball as soon as he gets it , thats not a playmaker!!!!!
58. joeblue
oh and roman holiday ur sarcasm is dripping thru , and its completely pointless , wen ur beloved Jose buys crap players for 20 mn pounds and above everybody hails him , if i say so , u hav a problem right?????
i expected a better counter arguments from somebody like u , not that shameless stupid comment almost every Jose lover makes , very dissapointing , prove me wrong , u had said Jose shld be given time!!!!!
Remember , and now wat??? this ugly crap arrogant football again????
here r my sugesstions……………
1.Kick out Jose , a man who has no respect for football and with the multi million pounds at Roman’s disposal get anybody who has respect fior the sport my prefrence wld be Hiddink!!!!
2.Sell off players belonging to Jose’s arrogant , wasted mould like SWP , Ballack etc and get in players who redefine football , i mean if Jose was given so much cash to bring in thrah like he did , then a little more bucks and get some players like Kaka or Ronnie or Diego or Vaart etc!!!!!
3.oh and to play good football u dont need to score 3 goals a half but i guess Jose’s football has made u completely bonkers , stil if u play like Real Madrid r right now , i wldnt doubt our team scoring 2-3 goals avg with performances that wil make opponents shiver and neutrals fall in luv with!!!!
A NEW CHELSEA , A DREAM COME TRUE!!!!!! OH ROMAN , I KNOW WHAT U FEEL AND WHAT U SEE DISGUSTS U , BUT I CAN MAKE OUT BY THE WAY UR PATIENCE HAS BEEN TORN TO SHREDS , jOSE’S TIME IS NEAR!!!!!
59. True Blue Fusion
@BC
I Don’t mind we lost 2-0……………2 goal means nothing……….as jose mourinho obviously put it…………………..we played football the way i guess “joeblue” and “midfield_decider” wants…………….if they don’t call this beautiful football……………..i think they are better off with arsenal or manchester united………………………
about roman abramovich………………..his reaction just showed that chelsea is not his toy as media puts it…………he loves his team…………can’t see them loosin………and contrary to the media i can picture him tryin to console the team and even congratulatin jose for the way we were playing football.
@joeblue
my advice: go and search for other club………and change your name to fabregas.red or anything………….this is ridiculuos critising………………….even my arsenal fans admitted we lost due to luck we had the better chances……………….we played football as “joeblue” wants it………………..if you call ballack is not creative enough………go and get a life…………schneijder scores ………..u want him……………………..in football we can play with 11 players only i guess you know it…………….throw off lampard who in his off-form scores as much as cristiano scores in his best form……………….[note that ronaldo dives and scores from those penalties]………….
jose won’t be sacked because you are of those rare breeds who wants jose out………………….if jose was a bad tactician or manger trust me he would be praised even in rival communities
i guess arsenal and man utd play beautiful football……………but are they able to defeat us??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
60. True Blue Fusion
@joeblue
CHANGE UR CLUB OR CHANGE UR FRIENDS WHO ARE FILLING YOUR MIND WITH THIS CRAP THAT CHELSEA PLAYS BOORING FOOTBALL……….JOSE DOESN’T KNOWS MANAGEMENT
61. Midfield_Decider
Good points from joeblue. Bravo.
By the way, I will respond to you pesonally soon.
62. joeblue
I hav not said Lampard is not a good player , but he is not creative and thats that!!!! Ballack and creativity?????poles apart , he does everything other than trying to create spaces !!!!
Hav u not even read my earlier comments????
Sneijder and Lampard r playing TOGEATHER in my given team!!!!!
First check wats the debate abt before jumping in!!!!
and i dint even talk abt Arsenal’s play and style!!!!
Not even Manure’s!!!!! all i m saying is WE shld play beautiful football!!!!!
63. SH.IBRAHIMI
lol do u see any Ballack’s games for Germany/B.Munich?! .. i think that problem is that Lampard/Ballack cant play together .. i dont know why .. it’s same like Lampard/Gerrard in England !!
64. Blue Champion
joeblue - losing the title was still not a crisis. even if we dont win it this season it is not a crisis.
65. Joeblue
It is!then y did we spend 300 million on players.2 lose?nop!
66. RomanEmpire
(if anyone childish points out that Real won 5-0, damn I’m not wasting my time on them)
@BC, it isnt sin to give some respect to Real Mardid, atleast they are the symbol of football in the last century. Moreover i warn you, you will loose young spanish chics (fans) following your blog if u blame Madrid
lol. Juss kidding…!
67. Anonymous
68. joeblue
oh and if anybody saw Sneijder and Ronnie in the La Liga and stil cant see any diffrence btw them and Lamps/Ballack , i advise u to switch to cricket!!!
69. Midfield_Decider
BC, I cannot believe that you wrote that we played well at Villa Park. With that preformance we would lose to Liverpool, Milan, Barcelona, Manchester Utd, Arsenal, and maybe others too.
You say that if we don’n win The league this year it won’t be a crisis. Then what is a crisis for you? I’m sure that Roman Abramovich will disagree with you.
70. Midfield_Decider
When Rafael Benitez was a “poor” guy with no funds he used to teach Jose how to play solid defencive game.
Now, when Rafa is a “rich” guy with funds he teaches Jose how to play attractive attacking football.
Hats off to Rafa. It’s not coincidence that the guy likes to play chess as he admitted once. Football like chess requires creativity, which Jose doesn’t have.
71. bluegal
Joe blue
To you, everything is wrong with Jose nd the team. No problem its your opinion but i think here, we should be discussing on how the team can improve.Let your criticism be constructive like M.D. Or you could just change club since you luv attractive football so much
PS Arsenal are off to a flying start nd United are just 2pts behind.
72. Midfield_Decider
This article is not mine but it has sense in it:
Chelsea have finally been caught, and the jury is out. For the past seasons Chelsea relied on grinding results and wearing dowm the opponents. The ball will be kicked long to Drogba to hold for Lampard to shoot. It was simple route one football, that lacked creativity and imagination. Yes it brought results we were told. Yes it was justified because it had two premierships titles to show. Yes it was good becoz great Champions win ugly. Is that true,? We were reminded that Artists and Entertainers are for the circus, winning and results for football. Real Madrid
nice read BC.
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