So, you read the title right? I put up a poll as well on this topic and 75% of us were in favour of Lampard starting every match. Well, there are two ways of looking at this – one is the compassionate, gratuitous and hopeful way and the other is ruthless, business-like and realistic way. So, I here play both the ego and alter-ego for this debate and try to see which side weighs more.
Through the compassionate, gratuitous and loyal eyes
Over the past few seasons, including the last one, he has been a tremendous player for us. He has been a very loyal servant (at 100,000 plus pounds a week!) and is always ready to contribute. He even went on to make a premier league record of consecutive appearances and has played in the rain and shine of his health. No, it’s not because he felt insecure of losing his place if he doesn’t play. When he was making that record, he was our champion midfielder and there was hardly any doubt about that. In fact, for a few weeks now, he has been playing with some minor injury while there are players (Thie . . Henr. .) who pick and choose matches they don’t want to play, by sighting injury reasons. So, I feel that his commitment is unquestionable and not under discussion.
Is he in form? It takes a die-hard fan of Lampard to even think about saying ‘yes’. I’m not one, I just like him and certainly do not and will not dislike him unless he does a Galloss or something like that. Players do go out of form, don’t they? So, being out of form is not the problem now should he play (or he be played) when he is not in form? What do we call here as out of form? He is not scoring goals – in the pre-season, community shield and against Birmingham. That’s fine, it was not Steven Gerrard who scored 20+ goals last season.
Lampard has not made many goals in the last few matches (friendlies included). When the formation changes and the style/approach of play changes, the players who are involved in the attack and who create goals will also change. With what we have seen so far, we are going to see less of centre attacks and that means lesser number of assists from Lampard, which is what is happening now. In a few weeks, oppositions will start concentrating and marking our wingers and that would create space for surging central midfielders. Is he currently playing a crucial role in the build-up of the attacks, well yes. He’s cut down his shooting instincts and you could see that he’s playing as per Jose’s instruction of just feeding the ball to the wings at the right moment and see them fly. I heard you saying he loses possession too often. As far as I remember Essien lost twice and Lampard lost thrice against Birmingham. I’m not saying it’s allright but, come on it’s allright, it happens!
Through the ruthless, business-like and realistic eyes
While the their view confirms that he is not in form, why do we have to play him, especially when you have multiple options for his central midfielder role. Mikel, Diarra or Makelele can be used and given the current set-up they would return the same output that Frank returns. When Ballack returns from injury, only Lampard’s merit, and not anything else, should find his name on the teamsheet. Jose did say that he does not pick the team but the players (and their performance) picks themselves. If this is truly the case, either Lamps should improve or see himself on the bench. And ye, if he has an injury, then what’s he doing on the pitch? He should stay away from playing and aggravating his injury.
What hurts is not his lack of goals or assists but only his loss of possession and that too in very crucial areas that would normally have the opposition cut through you. Someone playing in the midfield role should be lot more wary and careful of what damage they can do to their team. The alternative you have is Mikel, who is modeled after Essien in ball control and after Makelele in pace and movement. With Mikel and Essien as central midfielders, the opposition will have a torrid time in the middle and can hardly sneak through. With two in-form wingers and in-form strikers, do we need an attack-minded midfielder or a neutral minded one?
And, finally . . .
For sure, Jose seems to be thinking the former way and that’s why you still see Frank on the pitch and that too as the captain. If I were Jose, I’d rest (not drop, mind you!) Lampard for a few games and let Essien and Mikel marshal the midfield. But Jose can’t whip him like to does to Mikel. We certainly have to respect a player of Lampard’s calibre and also for his contribution to our achievements. At no cost, Lampard should feel ill-treated for a short loss of form, as he knows he was in top form for successive seasons and he has certainly built up loads of goodwill to his advantage.
In short, rest him for awhile and let someone else play but he’s still a very important player and he is part of the core of our team because he is one of those players who has it ‘in the blood’!



I don’t think he needs rest or something. All he needs is some matches to get it right again. He is one of our best mid fielders and will play according to the match situations. And why are we discussion that whether he should play or not in the first place. What should he do to prove himself as for a mid fielder role. provide some comfortable passes to our strikers or good backup for the other mid fielders? if we have robben(we will have him), SWP, Joe Cole who is having only a attacking mentality, then who is going to take care of the defense in mid field in case of need. IF Lampard take this role can we say him that he is not good anymore. I think a mere presence in the team will give a lot of confidence rather than to have him on the bench.
When Mourinho came in the first Article from a chelsea player I remember reading was by an interview with Frank Lampard and how JM WANTED INTELLIGENT PLAYERS ONLY AT THE CLUB.
It wasn’t a coincidence that Lmapards game changed so dramatically under Mourinho. He became JM’s pivot in the fancily named ‘Tranistion Philosphy’.
That meant Lampard had to focus more on purely effective and direct passing to launch counterattacks.
Watch the dvd of Chelsea under Ranieri in 03/04 and you will see Lampard was a more creative player who actually had an impressive array of passing, short, long, over the top, backspin passes in between centrehalves and fullbacks. He did the simple things and wasn’t afaraid to attempt clever passes that needed some risk taking. The chip pass was one he used a lot, spinning the ball into the attackers path.
This was around about the time he was breaking into the England team and you could actually recognize a Lampard pass on the screen just by the kind of pass it was…
Yeah his goalscoring record improved but his overall creative input diminished with each season under Mourinho.
BTW in the last season with Ranieri Lamaprd scored double figures at least and that without taking penalties (JFH took those). So you could actually argue has Lampard improved as much as he could have undr JM or would he actually have neded up a better player under the guidance of Ranieri.
The thign that we always here about Lampard fromfellow pros and managers, ex coaches etc, is how intelligent he is and the tremendous amount of effort he exerts in training – Its that and his personal drive which I guess was like clay waiting to be shaped.
Tinkerman was shaping him one way, and Big Head was shaping him to become an epitome of his proclaimed ‘pragmatic’ appraoch to football.
Lampard is a VITAL player for us. He is the one with a steady head amid all the hustle and bustle and aggression. Mikel and Essien in midfield, you’d get the work rate, the power, even compsure to retain the ball with Obi but you wont get that clinical finsihing in the box, that movement or just that overall decision making quality that Lampard has.
WE WILL ONLY REALIZE HOW HE IMPORTANT HE IS TO OUT PLAY WHEN HE IS GONE!
I think Lampard is good , people expect him a lot.
We could try resting him a few games but I think its more to do with a GIANT GORILLA ON HIS BACK, Which has him constantly under pressure to perform the way he just isn’t able with confidence anymore – ie, the Danny Murphy-esque role, but to a higher and more impressive degree.
Every pass he makes is scrutanized. If he plays it sideways its ‘dull’ and typivcally ‘lacking creativity’. If it’s direct and over the top it’s ‘a longball lumped forward’, and if its misplaced then its just a misplaced pass that stand out tenfold becuase ‘If FRank Lampard is that good he won’t misplace passes…”
Completely agree with Cashif.
Now, can anybody tell one reason we don’t like about Lampard while playing? I don’t see much.
Take Lampard out of midfield and you may see that we have a slight fragile midfield(all injury prone players too..)
bluedevil – there are more than one. before i start let me tell you lampard has been a great player for chelsea and his contributions are exemplary.
And now (i) he is not creative enough, that could be his role but even if he’s given a free role he can’t be creative (ii) when is playing poorly, he is absolutely terrible (iii) he can’t match mikel, as of date.
why should each and every player on the team be creative? i dont understand why we keep talking about being creative. we have wingers and strikers who are creative. so why should lampard be creative. he is doing his job fine. leave him alone.
Play Mikel against Reading but Makelele against Liverpool, let Mikel get some experience but go to the tried and true when we really need the points in a tough prem match. Lamps does need a break every now and then. The sheer number of minutes he plays would be enough to tire anyone out of form yet he stays in form through all that work. I think Essien is the only man to be able to rival Lampard’s stamina. Mikel’s tackling can get very sloppy at times and could cause trouble if he is played too often. He is also very young so his demeanor on the pitch may not be as cool as an older lad. We have plenty of midfield options so sitting Lamps down for a few games and then having him play a sub for a game or two to get back to match fitness would be best before making him a starter again.
Long before I became a Chelsea and soc… football supporter, I was a US college basketball fan. I admired University of North Carolina Coach Dean Smith’s “no pernament star player” philosophy. That meant that James Worthy, Rasheed Wallace, and MICHAEL JORDAN would start or be used as a sub at any time according to Dean’s stratagey for the opponent.
I love Lampard. I believe his game will improve as the season progresses. But, I also believe he can and should be seated from time to time as the need arises. Is now the time? I think not. Chelsea needs mature and cool heads on the pitch against the Reading Rugby Club and Anfield. Indeed, I believe going up against Steven Gerrard just might inspire Frank to up his game a notch. If he can make a solid contribution to two victories (I will NOT settle for a draw against thugs and antiques), fine. But letting any player sit and sub is not a bad idea.
Lamps is playing with an injury.
The gaffer seems to need him as a talsiman on the field to boost overall confidence too.
The man is probably a bit tired .
C’mon he needs a rest but Mr Bollocks chose to be injured at the time Lamps needs a rest.
He’s all we have ,I guess at the moment.
To be honest, Lamps form has been suffering from later..But you cant throw a man out for a few bad games..If we were better selectors of players, Roman would have found us and not Jose…so let Jose go ahead..he knows what hes doing…
Ballack was supposed to have shone in the midfield with his versatility and creativity but he couldnt. And this time, when hes needed, hes injured. So that makes Jose play Lampard even if his form is not 100%. Ballack is good competition for Lamps even though their a bit different. Lampard plays in Chelsea more as an AMF than a CMF. He needs a Makalele, Essien or Mikel behind him to do the holding. He likes the freedom to attack, so that he can have his shots on goal. His last season while not his best as a midfielder, had him net a number of goals. Also remember, Lamps takes all our corner kicks, free kicks and penalties. give the man a break! If hes out of form, look at how Chelsea will suffer!
Its best that as fans we support him through and through. Hes done a lot for the club, and until Ballack is back, hes our only option. Once Ballack is back, a lot of the pressure will be off and hopefully, Lamps should be back to his free spirited self!
“In fact, for a few weeks now, he has been playing with some minor injury while there are players (Thie . . Henr. .) who pick and choose matches they don’t want to play, by sighting injury reasons.”
I think that’s a little harsh on Henry. Although he’s off to Barcelona now I don’t think his committment to Arsenal could ever be put into question during his time at the club. He often played injured and I don’t agree that he chose the matches he wanted to miss the way you suggest.
On the Lampard debate – you just can’t drop him. Over the course of the season he’s worth too many points to Chelsea. Maybe he should be rotated a little more but I’m a big fan of players who can play consistently and Lampard without question and Lampard falls into the category.
…Lampard without question falls into this category.
yaa nowdays lamp is not playing well….wht if jose put ballack in the place of lamp…. :)
BC if I remember correctly Lampard did not have a great start to the 2006-07 season as well but improved later on. I hope he improves as he is such a key player to Chelsea. His abilities really come to the fore when chelsea are under pressure. He produces something outstanding when needed. I am still amazed by the quality of the Goal he scored against Barca. All we need is to have one more goal and people will start beliving in Lamps. May be the real Lampard will start against Liverpool.
The real reasons for his dip of form (which isn’t even that severe) is obviously because of the injury he picked up and because he hasnt quite settled into the new system yet.
I might rest him for a short while but Lampard, perhaps more than any other player, is the face of the squad.
One thing is for sure – this is not the same lampard that we had in the title winning seasons. somehting has surely changed in him. may be his fitness, or his contract, or the formation, somthing has changed him. but i love him like anything. i wish he can get back to his best soon but for now, he should be rested or dropped or whatver you call it
SpanishFry @ 15
You know, that was an allegation than a news as such. Last season, most of the Arsenal blogs (yours excluded, as I discovered it only recently) were talking about Henry being the manager of his own selection. Well anyway, that’s not quite the topic, Henry is not the topic anymore for Arsenal themselves.
As regards Lampard, I’m very excited to read your views. Like they say, ‘the grass is always greener on the other side’. sometimes i do believe that the rival/neutral fans make the right kind of assessment on your players, as they are in the receiving end.
I can lie as much as I want but I fear some of the rival players’ skills and pace. I know they can change the game in the space of 5 seconds. Even if they fall out with their own fans due to their not being in form or whatever, the respect and fear I have for them will be there always.
Whatever it may be out of form or need rest but we definitely should change or increase our options in case of freekicks and corners. With the aerial strength available in our team every corner or freekick should be punished properly.. terry, drogba, pizzaro,(carvalho?) are some wonderful headers of ball. Earlier setpieces were one of our strengths and now a weakness in defence.
Freekicks near panelty areas can be very helpful if we get alves…
True, Lampard has been very key for us in the last 2-3 seasons but guys lets be realistic- he is not in form and in my opinion would keep declining.He should be benched for some games and lets see if his hunger is rekindled.
Did you notice that a lot of former Chelsea players become the captains of other teams There’s Geremi and was Parker at Newcastle and Willy Gallas at Aresy. Anyone more to add to the list guys.
add joeBlue and M_D ;)
Great post BC as usual. To be begin with, let me also state that I really love Frank. In the last season of ranieri and especially the first of Mour, the guy was really playin the football of gods. much as I love Frankie, i love chelsea even more. And because of that, I will be candid enough to say that lamp even in the latter part of last season started going a bit by his lofty standards.
I know its tough for Jose because the guy together with terry and drogs are players he loves on and off the field. But Mour must find the courage to “rest” a figurative word for drop when you are dealing with big players. It is important that he is given an impetus to fight for his place. the team is better off with that. after all, who thought two seasons back that Maka would be pushed to the bench by Mikel. it happened. in truth but for the “big” image of Lamps, jose would have been benching him from last year.
Mikel is class- if you doubt that, talk to team mates and those who watch the training regularly. essien as an AMD is immense- vision, passing and sheer drive. his arrival into the last third has also remarkably improved now. so verdict- in a 4-4-2 formation, Mikel should be the DMD while Essien is given the AMD role. When ballack is back, he and Essien can both as CMD simple cos they are both good defensively and offensively.
Lamp will definitely fight back and regain his form. but for now, lets be honest- he is not in the greatest shape. One thing I have learned all these years watching this game is: fans are soft on favorite players and impatient with those they do not like. If it were another player, i can bet my last penny that 99% of posters here would have been emphatic that he should be benched.
Come on guys, Let lamps be rested a bit. BTW, Mikel made Scholes, Carrick and the rest look like amateurs in the last FA cup final. Why will anyone think the lad cannot play well at Anfield?
yea 4 set pieces i would prefer ballack than lampard .. he’s much better than lamp
Let me first confess, Lamps is my fav player in the current squad. He has been for past 3-4 seasons. I come under the category of hardcore fans of Lamps.
Form: If you have noticed from the past 3-4 seasons, Lamps comes in top gear in the late 1st half of the season which remains the same till end of season. Im sure this will be the same for this year too. We just have to wait. And BC you said Lamps was poor in last match. I dont think so, he was linking very well with the wingers and other attacking players. I do agree that he lost some possession but even Essien did the same.
Goals: Im bit confused why lamps is not taking his patent long range shots. May be gaffer has given him some restrictions. He is acting on the lines of script by JM.
Pressure: He is wearing the armband. That is one pressure on him. His contractual talks are not sorted out yet. He has lot of competition in the team for his position. He had some personal life mess due to media in recent US tour. He is public enemy number one in English Football for national team. His position in national team remains conundrum. He is the scapegoat that media always like to have in England. I think so these are so many reasons to put unnecessary pressure on him.
Tiredness: He played almost all the matches in 05-06 campaign. Even all the WC qualifiers and friendlies for England. He had a torrid WC. He played almost every match in 06-07 campaign. He played all the matches for his country leaving one match. Dont you think it hasnt taken toll on this guy who is up and down on pitch for every match. One moment you’ll find this guy in opponents 6 yard box. Next moment you’ll find him in our 6 yard box for defending. He takes all the penalties and set pieces for both country and club (though England now have Becks who looks after free kicks). Isnt it tiring?
Replacement: We can have temporary replacement for him in the team. Long term? No. We dont have 20 goal midfielder in our team. Last year Ronaldo scored 16-17 goals in league and he became poster boy in league. We have same quality player who is having 16-17 goals per season for past 4 years. Although he might not be as aesthetically pleasing as of Ronaldo. This is what consistency is. Ronaldo has to perform on the same levels for next 3 years to match Lamps consistency.
Let him have his time and space. Lets not scrutinize his every action and pass. He will perform. JM is not stupid to put his name on sheet for every game.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/martin_samuel/article2246555.ece
Please read this article too. You might agree with it.
And I forgot to mention in my last post. He had highest numbers of assists not only for chelsea but also in EPL.
Blue Maverick, good point. bottom line, lamps must be given a bit of rest to recapture his dazzling heigths. his goal tally, this year, might come down tho. i do not think he will be number one penalty taker this season. looks like Piz edges past him in that respect. His avid passion for shooting at the least opportunity was partly contributory to Sheva’s woes last season. In Milan, Pirlo and kaka would have been placing some of those into good space for Sheva to bury while here here, Lamps was busy shooting them himself. No problem if his percentage of hits were much higher than it is now. With the kind of expansive game Mour wants to use this year, Lamps’ shots will be curtailed more unless they are really sitters than can not be resisted.
I am a great fan of FRANK LAMPARD.My dream is to play with him.
Iwant lampard to get the EPL player of the year.My dream is to play with him and win so many titles with CHELSEA.
This team exists as afr as I know , on merit. which is why I am baffled Lamps is still playing. I think Jose would have dropped him if JT was playing and he did not need a leader on the field…or maybe he is just hoping that he will pick up. He uncharacteristically lost so many balls that put pressure on the team in the last match.
I say, rest him, he will be back for sure…Frankly…
With Malouda in and Joe Cole back, I don’t think Lampard will net in as many goals as he did last year. Overall, he is a good player. But whats more important, is how good of a player the team thinks he is.
Think about it. He was captain most of last year and guided the team through countless injuries and infrequencies. For that in itself, I think Jose is wise for keeping him in the starting 11.
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i guess you’re right. dropping him may affect his confidence…but i think he should be rested nontheless.
Man, away for a couple of days, you miss so much discussion!!
MourofEssien… is that Mourofsame?? If it is, cool change!
About Lampard, I have no idea. I agree with both sides really, I’m just glad JM’s filling out the team sheet, not me… Yes, Lampard is the man to captain our squad in the absence of Terry, although players like Essien, Cech, or Drogba seem to me like they can do an effective job motivating and organizing. He is at the moment irreplaceable on free kicks or corners, as you saw in the Birmingham game, Malouda’s corners weren’t so good.
I just saw the Birmingham game yesterday, and I didn’t see him playing poorly. I think he did what was needed from him, and IT’S THE FIRST GAME!! Of course, he’s going to lose the ball a couple of times. How many times did he win the ball?? I’m sure it was more than he lost it!
He’s playing more of a central midfield role, with Essien in a holding role, than the usual attacking midfielder of last year. I like this role for him, I think he has great defensive skill and can certainly perform as crucially, if not as brilliantly, in this role. So we should play him.
But at the same time, I’m not sure how Mikel’s improved from pre-season (I hope he has, he needed to) but he might be able to plug that hole as well as dole out the passes to start our attacks/counters. I’m not sure.
Maybe we rest Lamps for next match, have Drogba/Cech/Essien captain, and play him against Liverpool.
That seems logical to me.
I’m not too convinced that resting him will do any good during the start of season. Rather in absence of Terry the captaincy should be given to some body else(ahh… a debate here isn’t) and also he should be given the role defensive midfielder for some time to get ready for this season.
Also in future he will be best fit for a defensive role in midfield rather than his usual attacking.
Adonis, welcome back. Yeah you are right, thats my new name.
If I were Mour, Lamps would be rested agaisnt Reading and his role given to former Reading Boy Sidwell. Essien is missing too so Mikel should play there.
Lamps would however be given role on Sat against Gerrald at Anfield. He will be gutted not to play in that match.
bluedevil – strange suggestion. defensive midfielder is not as per lampard’s natural instincts. he’s basically attack-minded. he’d do poorly as a DM. we already have enough DMs – maka, mikel, diarra, sidwell etc. why screw up lampard’s career by changing his role at this stage? i dont think it’s a good idea.
and well, drogba would be a better captain than lampard, any day.
Alves to Chelsea at 32 million euro?
just read that on skysports and eurosports
Fantastic news, I’m still not celebrating (well, maybe a bit) until I read it on Cheseafc.com, but it’s great news none the less. Imagine if we keep Robben after all!! Oh man, I can see us having a legendary season.
Alex is number 33 now. I’m excited for him.
But not nearly as excited as I am for SWP… Here was a player most people (including me, I must admit) wanted sold, but he’s persevered, he’s kept his head down and kept fighting, and now he’s a top player… Everyone loves him in the locker room, everyone loves him in the stands, the manager loves him, so it’s really such a fantastic story!!
tim_ber… I have to disagree with you that Drogba’s a better captain than Lamps. What do you base that on?? That he’s the Ivory Coast captain?? It’s not that often he captains that team… The fact that Lampard has been there for Chelsea for six years now, is an English player in an English league, and is normaly the vice-captain, means he is the better captain than Drogba.
Check this quote by JM out:
‘There is no reasons to be shaking like we were shaking last season. In this moment we have a good balance, we are strong in every position.’ Talking of course about cover for injuries… I’m SO confident this year.
Oh, and Rooney’s missing quite a big chunk of the season, so we have to take the chance now, early in the season, to take control and get a stranglehold of the competition. We don’t want to be clawing our ways back the whole season a la last year. This year’s going to be different, I can feel it.
KTBFFH people, it’s in the blood!
conflicting figures though…if its true, its a good buy offensively. not sure about defensively but with JM, i wont be worried about that too long. once he’s got pace , he will be fine.
He’s got pace, and he’s better defensively that Ferreira and Johnson, I can tell you that. He’s good in the tackle, and quite quick… An Ashley Cole for the right side, defensively. But offensively, he’s a jewel. He’s going to be fantastic.
Wow!! Goal.com is reporting a three-way deal, with Alves coming to Chelsea, Robben going to Real Madrid, and Cicinho going to Sevilla!! It’s “hours away,” so let’s hope for the best!
Honestly, much as I want Robbie to stay, i will not be gutted if he left in this Alvez deal. great news then for young scott if Robbie leaves. The money would largely pay for Alvez.
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he is the best and still will be for the team,other are good but then.
The best option should have been to play both Ballack and Frank. It was a fatal mistake not to play Ballack untill the 80th minute against the Spurs. And Chelsea dearly payed for it. Frank has to improve his form drastically in order to be included in every game.
Not only Ballack is the Captain of the German team but also the German team is formed around Ballack. Ballack has been and I strongly believe he will continue to be the top of his form since his return from injury.
I truely wish Abrahm Grant good luck in the team selection so he does not make any more fatal mistake like the one against the spurs.
indeed,chesea is a good club in d world of soccer.every advantages have disadvantages.therefore,the problem of d club is redundance of players i.e caoch should not buy old players but young players like mike that can deliver beter service.for instance, arsnerfc had done last saesion.pls take note of my advice.am chesea fans.thanks
Lampard is a VITAL player for CHELSEA
I believe in LAMPARD and trust in lampard
I know one day he will remember me for I always
pray for him. goals are not your problems I believe, but
show your talent. I never love my wife the way I love u.
he is a great player and i no he will come to his form,it is a matter of time.
Lampard is a good player and he will never be a bad player, And i love CHESEA for ever more.
I realy appreciate what lampard is doing to the chelsea team as of now and i wish him all the best.
without lampard no chelsea because he is so commited more than ever and i love him for what he is doing.
I like frank lampard so much, becouse of the way he sorport and i pray for god to mmake me see him, the day i shall join the fieders and i promise to keep his name and make him proud . IF i have the chaces to join the under 16 i promise to make chelsea fc proud, becouse i promise my self to remian in the BLUES TILL ENTERNITY even though to the time of religation i will still be there. I love the team from michael
he is good but can do better for Chelsea
lanpard come back am waiting there
what is going on Chelsea we need two wingers we need 7 and 11 since when ajen roben as left we can get a wingers like that again or why did calos acelotti sell balack and on replacement for him and he condemn deco and you have know midfield we only have lanpard and mikel and esine and you did not buy player we have player in brazil you can go there and find wingers these you are there buying unknown player all around board should do so some thing better
thanks
aphis